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Wordle for Poker(poklegame.com)

147 points·by VoidSetAndMatch·4 anni fa·72 comments
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Wordle for Poker

https://poklegame.com/

75 comments

quickthrower2·4 anni fa
I like it, but it relies on too much luck once all logical deduction is exhausted: I feel like it needs another clue source in there. Perhaps giving you a flop card for free would be enough.

Another thing is to accept any answer that would explain the bronze/silver/gold.

Or what would be cool is take WSOP actual games, show the action and the cards, and you guess the flop/turn/river.
aqme28·4 anni fa
Yes agreed. Had everything dialed in except a card that I only knew to be a spade and no helpful information from the ranks. Just had to exhaust my guesses numerically.
yccs27·4 anni fa
The rules drastically limit the needed guessing with the "No random kickers" rule:

    The rank of each board card will alway be a part of at least one player's hand in at least one phase.
thathndude·4 anni fa
Have played this for a week now. Took me 3-4 days to understand the no-kicker rule. Once you do, the game becomes a lot easier.

I almost wish there were kickers. Maybe modify it to no kickers in the turn or river.
j7ake·4 anni fa
I had to guess because one of the three flop cards were uniformative
origamiPyro·4 anni fa
Wait, my pokle question was:

    Liz: Qd Qc, 2nd, 1st, 1st
    Riz: 4s 9s, 1st, 2nd, 3rd
    Siz: 10d Ad, 3rd, 3rd, 2nd
I got it in 5, and my answer had no spade in it. Did we have different pokles?
david_allison·4 anni fa
I had the same question as you
aqme28·4 anni fa
I lied
thathndude·4 anni fa
Got to this point as well. But it requires a certain amount of logic and intelligence to put together the process of elimination test efficiently. Got mine on try 6.
darepublic·4 anni fa
I didn't realize it on first playthrough but since the rank is ordered on the flop you do have a clue that way
sgjohnson·4 anni fa
> Another thing is to accept any answer that would explain the bronze/silver/gold.

Then all you would ever need is one guess.
evancox100·4 anni fa
You get an additional clue that there are no “kickers” on the board. Quoting from the the help:

“No random kickers on the board - The rank of each board card will alway be a part of at least one player's hand in at least one phase. Note: "part of a hand" means the significant card(s) in: Pair, Two Pair, Three of a Kind or Four of a Kind (not kickers) TLDR: You may have to guess a card's suit with no clues, but not it's rank”
darepublic·4 anni fa
Any answer that explains the rankings is too broad. That takes no luck and you should get it first time. I get what you mean though, there is a bit too much luck
awb·4 anni fa
It’s fun to guess cards that make hands better or worse, but it’s a bit tedious to make repetitive random guesses for the inconsequential cards.
littlestymaar·4 anni fa
There shouldn't be any (see[1]) and in today's puzzle, there aren't actually any.

BTW, that makes the game less realistic and interesting Poker-wise, IMHO.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33770866
soylentgraham·4 anni fa
I came up with a poker-wordle-ish game idea, and that was higher/lower. You enter a hand, and it told you if your hand was higher or lower.

Maybe a bit basic though, adding a texas holdem flop-river reveal could have made it more interesting
rob74·4 anni fa
Related - Wordle for Stable Diffusion: https://diffudle.com/

Edit: this was only mentioned by the author in an HN comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33728208), so it might still be work in progress - works for me however ;)
cmeacham98·4 anni fa
Is this a troll? I immediately get hit with a "You win!" popup telling me I took 6 guesses without even getting to play.
prakhar897·4 anni fa
Sorry!! I made some really fatal changes a few hours ago, that's why it wasn't working. You can try now.
wizofaus·4 anni fa
Just to clarify though, there's not meant to be any indicator for "right letter, wrong position"? If there is, it's not working.
rob74·4 anni fa
Strange, works for me, and I have played it on three different days now... However it's a project of another HN user that they only mentioned in another thread, so it might still be work in progress.
cmeacham98·4 anni fa
It's ..... based on your IP. But not only is it based on your IP, some IPs are buggy and just automatically "win" with 6 guesses.

Looking at the javascript, the author is obviously very new to web development, so probably a bug on their side.

Edit: yeah, a bug on the backend as I suspected.
rob74·4 anni fa
Or they didn't want to use cookies for fear of GDPR :) ? But I'm not sure you can get off the GDPR hook by collecting IP addresses instead of setting cookies actually...
prakhar897·4 anni fa
I wanted to view user's activities to make sure the puzzles aren't too easy or too hard. But seems using IP to do this is wrong.
cmeacham98·4 anni fa
I don't think there's anything wrong with storing the game state on the server, but you should use a session cookie rather than making it based on IP.
codeflo·4 anni fa
You can’t. It’s worse, in fact, because users can’t delete them.
prakhar897·4 anni fa
Yes, that's why I was moving to LocalStorage based model but this created two different sources of truth which was the whole cause of bug. I'll fix all the issues and delete all data in cloud ASAP. :)
prakhar897·4 anni fa
Thanks for posting this!! :)
wizofaus·4 anni fa
Likewise
gooseus·4 anni fa
I had every rank from the first guess and then had to use two more guesses just to find the appropriate suits with the only information being that I needed to avoid putting a flush on the board.

I like it, and would be interested to see some entropy analysis like what 3bl1br did with Worldle when it first got popular.

Curious how the measurable information entropy changes with guesses across these different types of games... I have a feeling that while Wordle can get to a point where you're stuck with even guesses, I doubt it would happen as often as with this Pokle game.
csa·4 anni fa
> I had every rank from the first guess and then had to use two more guesses just to find the appropriate suits

Exact same.

I will be interested to see how other puzzles compare.
Kuraj·4 anni fa
Wait until you see Wordle for Riichi Mahjong :-)

https://mahjong-handle.update.sh/
steinuil·4 anni fa
I love that one! I find it kind of amazing that it works at all with so many possible tiles and hands, though I guess them being in order helps a lot.
bobthepanda·4 anni fa
I wish this had a colorblind mode. Wordle has one.

Why is red/green such a common color palette? One in twelve men is colorblind. (Interestingly the rate is 1 in 200 in women.)
forty·4 anni fa
> Interestingly the rate is 1 in 200 in women

I was told this is because the responsible gene is on the X chromosome, so having two X reduces considerably the odds of having 2 failing ones.
bearmode·4 anni fa
Colour psychology. Red = danger, green = good.
onion2k·4 anni fa
Western color psychology.

Red is considered a very lucky color in China.
jahnu·4 anni fa
And I guess this is why red is positive (is green negative?) in much of East Asia in finance.

Hence the emoji for chart increasing being mostly drawn as a red line

https://emojipedia.org/chart-increasing/
thaumasiotes·4 anni fa
> (is green negative?)

From the link at your link, yes, negative is green in Japan.

https://blog.emojipedia.org/why-does-the-chart-increasing-em...
listenallyall·4 anni fa
Men? Women? So 2019...
zapdrive·4 anni fa
I know you are joking, but I wish to fast forward to the world where it's common to use non offensive terms like birthing person/non-birthing person.
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garbagetime·4 anni fa
I got it in my third guess, but my first guess was correct apart from the suits.
bonzini·4 anni fa
Same here, this particular puzzle didn't seem so hard and I know nothing about Texas Hold'Em except for the meaning of flop/turn/river.
m4tthumphrey·4 anni fa
Same.

Fun game. Let's see if I keep coming back like wordle and quordle.
TylerE·4 anni fa
Doesn’t work well on iOS. The white home bar overlays the input controls

https://i.imgur.com/VjcvtTD.jpg

Edit; also the layout is breaking my brain. Each pair of hole cards side by side like every poker website, book, or broadcast would be 50x better

Also also… don’t like the 2 step since it doesn’t make clear which cards already e its in the hand, and you’re already at 24 buttons… 46 wouldn’t be that much more, even
wink·4 anni fa
Not sure if it's frequency bias, but when did the perceived "Poker == Texas Holdem" happen? I remember when I was learning about Poker as a kid/teenager in Europe I didn't hear about that variant, then I didn't play for a bit and suddenly there's only Texas Holdem.
NineStarPoint·4 anni fa
My guess would be during the US poker boom around 2003ish. Texas Hold Em had for quite a while been the variant of poker used by the largest tournaments, and during that boom a lot more people learned about competitive poker and started playing it online.

As for why Texas Holdem is the most popular variant for betting poker, it’s a variant that is not too complex, offers a lot of opportunities to infer information about other player’s hands due to minimal private information compared to other variants, and has multiple opportunities for betting. It works well from both a competitive and watchability stand point.
dwringer·4 anni fa
I certainly can't speak in general but I noticed it enter my circles of friends when the World Poker Tour and Celebrity Poker Showdown games started on TV ~2003. Around that time it seemed like everyone I knew was suddenly interested in Texas Hold'em (before that I had basically only ever played 5-card draw).
mk_stjames·4 anni fa
The movie "Rounders" came out in 1998... that was what did it for myself and my friend circle.
gretch·4 anni fa
I tried to keep playing this, but it seems like todays puzzle is just straight up in correct?

The interface says the player with pocket nines has a straight on the river but is still 2nd place behind the player with 2 pair 8s and 10s

None of my guesses made any sense in the incorrect framework
dannyeei·4 anni fa
Awesome game! Not sure what everyone else is saying - I found it easy to understand and it works fine on iPhone
TylerE·4 anni fa
Which one? Anything with a physical button (NB: 2019+ iPad Pros do not have a button) doesn’t have the issue, but they don’t have a home bar.

There’s also a huge difference between iPhone and iPad here. iPad puts the share/tab buttons in the main top bar, and page content goes all the way to the bottom of the screen. (Disclaimer: kickstand case so I’m in landscape.)

On iPhone there is a dedicated bar for those below the content, so it doesn’t affect the UI, as the home bar goes below THAT.
prakhar897·4 anni fa
Adding this to my list of wordle-like games: https://github.com/prakhar897/awesome-wordle/blob/main/READM...
Zecc·4 anni fa
You might also like:

https://duotrigordle.com/# https://colordle.com/ https://dontwordle.com/ https://jonesnxt.github.io/kilordle/

The only one of these I play religiously is duotrigordle.
coverband·4 anni fa
I won the first puzzle in 4 guesses, but had a tough time understanding the rules. I think some more clarification/simplification is in order. For example, it took me a minute to understand the colors represented gold/silver/bronze...
MangezBien·4 anni fa
Would love to have a practice mode where I can play an unlimited number of times
scrame·4 anni fa
just way too complicated.
drekipus·4 anni fa
this is pretty cool. got the first one in 5 guesses. the rules are a little complex but understandable. I didn't quite pick up that the flop, turn, and river are their own little "lanes" at first but it makes sense.

I would perhaps word it as "guess the flop, turn, and river of the game" - not "guess the 5 cards"

good job!
tcmb·4 anni fa
Interesting, but I feel if there is a card on the board that doesn't contribute to any player's result, it's too hard to guess in just five tries. You have 2,3,4...A, which is too many options, even if you manage to get the suit correct.

I don't really know how to change the rules to compensate for this, but it feels like these 'unrelated' cards ruin the game in a way.
DanHulton·4 anni fa
What you're talking about is a "random kicker" and the rules specifically say there aren't any. Every flop card hits someone's hand, in terms of rank, if not suit.

This makes it significantly easier. Got it in 3, could have gotten it in 2 except I had a 50/50 on the suit of the last card and I picked the wrong 50.
codeflo·4 anni fa
Not sure if it’s fair to downvote tcmb for not seeing this — the second rules page was rather well-hidden, I overlooked it as well.
graderjs·4 anni fa
This isn’t a problem: No random kickers on the board - The rank of each board card will alway be a part of at least one player's hand in at least one phase.

Rules page 2
SamBam·4 anni fa
I found that confusing, not knowing the term "random kickers."

To rephrase slightly for my brain: Every card in the solution will be used in at least one player's hand.

It might have been nice if there were an annotated example game.
graderjs·4 anni fa
I didn't know it either but worked it out from context. The couple of examples, the rules and thinking about it was sufficient for me.
HOOVERDAM·4 anni fa
i play wordle regularly and really enjoyed this. was very satisfying and managed to get it on the 6th guess my first attempt. worked fine playing on iphone 13 mini.
faangiq·4 anni fa
Neat. Guessing the suits a bit annoying but well done.
w1nst0nsm1th·4 anni fa
Spoiler Alert : Source -> const GAMES = ...
buck4roo·4 anni fa
Thumbs up. Very fun to solve.
smegsicle·4 anni fa
some green message showed up after my first guess that i didn't get to read
stevenking86l·4 anni fa
This is really fun!
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almokhtar·4 anni fa
source code ?
thathndude·4 anni fa
Played once. Got it on 6th try. Fun/cool idea. Don’t think I’ll play again.
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