Huawei new phone with Chinese 7nm SoC(twitter.com)
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Huawei new phone with Chinese 7nm SoC
https://twitter.com/tphuang/status/1696891875939004864
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Mate60 has already been sold in China, but it is said that it is not sold to countries other than China. I wonder if there is any blogger who got this machine and filmed an explanatory video?
wait isn't 7nm pretty good, the hacker news story about a new thing by intel used 7nm too https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37315802 probably you could do some stuff with enough 7nm chips
> a lot of tech breakthrus needed to overcome lack of access to EUVs, TSMC foundries & American RF supply chain
and not even use EUV at all? that is a pretty small number of nanometers
> a lot of tech breakthrus needed to overcome lack of access to EUVs, TSMC foundries & American RF supply chain
and not even use EUV at all? that is a pretty small number of nanometers
Keep in mind that Intel is years behind. TSMC N7 came out in 2018 so SMIC is ~5 years behind. Samsung 7LPP uses EUV but TSMC N7 and Intel 7 don't so it's not required. Without EUV, SMIC will probably be stuck at 7 nm for many years while other fabs reach 2 nm.
I think SMIC / Huawei will have mass production EUV within two or three years.
Where do you think they're getting the tooling?
They are making it themselves ... all of it.
maybe they will go straight into quantum computing and not bother with archaic liquid tin laser printers
If Huawei can make enough of these I bet it will seriously cut into the sales of the upcoming iPhone 15 in China.
I opened an old phone when I replaced it a few years ago, and described each part to my children. The chips didn't account for much of the volume.
I realise that a 3nm chip uses less power for the same processing than a 7nm chip does. Phones are mostly idle, though. Can receive/transmit 100Mbps or whatever, do receive/transmit very, very much less. I'd be thankful if someone who really knows about phone geometry/power could explain.