No Traces of Life: Israel's Ecocide in Gaza 2023-2024 (report)(forensic-architecture.org)

14 pointsby Qem2 anni fa16 comments

No Traces of Life: Israel's Ecocide in Gaza 2023-2024 (report)

https://forensic-architecture.org/investigation/ecocide-in-gaza

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There is a documentary, that is worth watching, called three broken cameras (or five?). It goes through the life of a video journalist. You can see that the struggle for homeland in Palestine has been in majorly peaceful ways. But the violent ones are the most reported. The peaceful protests are treated with brutal force. Unlike what you see in the protests by Israelis against Judicial reforms etc. I remember a scene in it, where the colonisers burn olive trees. It is a way to remove the agency of the people, who has been farming there for ages. It has been reported in the Nakba in 1948 as well, and apparently continues to this day.

tptacek2 anni fa

Worth noting that the same harms inflicted on Palestinians during the Nakba were inflicted on Jewish people of Middle Eastern and North African origin, in comparable numbers, so much so that a plurality of the population in Israel is now of MENA origin.

smoothjazz2 anni fa

Jewish immigration to Israel is not similar at all to Nakba. It was voluntary, and that's extremely different from having your homeland invaded and ethnically cleansed.

tptacek2 anni fa

It was in fact not voluntary.

smoothjazz2 anni fa

I posted references down thread. People are free to read the wikipedia articles for themselves.

tptacek2 anni fa

Your own references make my point.

bluefishinit2 anni fa

That's not true at all. Nakba was an ethnic cleansing of over 750,000 Palestinians. Voluntary Jewish immigration at behest of Zionist urging to Israel is not the same thing.

tptacek2 anni fa

No. There was little voluntary about the immigration we're discussing. Jewish people were chased out of Tunisia, Yemen, Morocco, and Iraq by lead-pipe mobs. You can go to Yemen today (well, you could before the Houthi takeover) and buy the silversmithing the fleeing Jewish people left behind in open-air markets.

smoothjazz2 anni fa

They didn't "flee", there was a coordinated Zionist effort to move them to Israel:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Magic_Carpet_(Yemen)

And the anti-Zionist riots were in response to the illegal occupation of Palestinian land:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_anti-Jewish_riots_in_Aden

None of this was even remotely on the scale of Nakba.

tptacek2 anni fa

From the thread below, you appear to believe Israel also coordinated the destruction of the World Trade Center towers, so I think our premises are probably too far apart to discuss anything productively.

smoothjazz2 anni fa

I do not believe that (although I could see how you would read it like that). I meant your insinuation that the well documented Zionist false flag was the equivalent of 9/11 conspiracy theories, but you admit that Israel did do the false flag.

tptacek2 anni fa

I have no idea what you're talking about, sorry.

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bluefishinit2 anni fa

Zionists did that and generally destabilized the entire region:

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/iraq-jews-attacks-zionist...

tptacek2 anni fa

A pattern that continued through their controlled demolition of the World Trade Towers, I'm sure.

Like every other country in the 1950s, Israel did a bunch of crazy shit. But attempting to attribute significant amounts of Jewish emigration from MENA countries to Zionist operations is risible. Pogroms against Jewish enclaves are well documented.

I edited this comment, adding the second paragraph, while its reply was being posted. Sorry about that.

bluefishinit2 anni fa

I don't follow you. Osama Bin Laden said that the bombing of the WTC was in retaliation for Israel bombing Beirut:

> God knows it did not cross our minds to attack the towers but after the situation became unbearable and we witnessed the injustice and tyranny of the American-Israeli alliance against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, I thought about it. And the events that affected me directly were that of 1982 and the events that followed - when America allowed the Israelis to invade Lebanon, helped by the US sixth fleet.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/oct/30/alqaida.septem...

smoothjazz2 anni fa

Qem2 anni fa

> We used remote sensing to measure the scale of agricultural destruction resulting from this military activity, by comparing the region’s ‘vegetation index’ (an indicator of the health and robustness of plant life, measured by analysing satellite imagery) before and after the invasion. This comparison reveals that as of March 2024, of the agricultural areas targeted, approximately 40 percent of the land in Gaza previously used for food production has been destroyed.

This report is great evidence of the man-made nature of this famine, to be presented before the International Court of Justice. The Court recently indicated additional provisional measures[1] to curb use of famine as a means to wage this war:

>In its Order, the Court observes that, since 26 January 2024, “the catastrophic living conditions of the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip have deteriorated further, in particular in view of the prolonged and widespread deprivation of food and other basic necessities to which the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip have been subjected”, and that “Palestinians in Gaza are no longer facing only a risk of famine, as noted in the Order of 26 January 2024, but that famine is setting in”. In the view of the Court, “the provisional measures indicated in the Order of 26 January 2024 do not fully address the consequences arising from the changes in the situation . . . , thus justifying the modification of these measures”.

[1]. https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192...

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