Leave X – Protect Democracy(leavex.eu)
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Leave X – Protect Democracy
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> not almost as toxic just in the opposite direction.
It’s not toxic to be like “everyone should have the same rights, invading Greenland is stupid, let’s all have healthcare.”
We can compare toxicities accurately, and comparing the cesspool of “thought” that is X to…anything else? Is like comparing Polonium 210 to Tylenol. Sure, they’re both toxic, technically, but there is some critical distinction between them, right?
It’s not toxic to be like “everyone should have the same rights, invading Greenland is stupid, let’s all have healthcare.”
We can compare toxicities accurately, and comparing the cesspool of “thought” that is X to…anything else? Is like comparing Polonium 210 to Tylenol. Sure, they’re both toxic, technically, but there is some critical distinction between them, right?
There is already https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/explore running as an experiment for a while now.
Nothing prevents them from setting up a friendlier instance (domain name) where they only allow registration for verified members, block and defederate liberally.
Nothing prevents them from setting up a friendlier instance (domain name) where they only allow registration for verified members, block and defederate liberally.
They could also just post posters in the european commision hallways, they would probably have the same amount of reach from there.
So what prevents them from actually setting up friendlier instances is that people simply do not go there.
So what prevents them from actually setting up friendlier instances is that people simply do not go there.
The EU Commission has an account on that instance and has 145k followers: https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/@EUCommission
(The rest have single-digit thousands to be fair: https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/directory)
(The rest have single-digit thousands to be fair: https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/directory)
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> The best option would be to have a separate platform for the european heads of state to communicate with people that is not as partisan and crazy as X, BlueSky or Mastodon
Mastodon at least it not owned by any large US corporation, and therefore not subject to corporate whims of their leadership.
> while the ones who shouldn’t be there will stick around and end up with an even bigger, uncontested audience.
Yes, and that's how it falls into complete irrelevance.
Mastodon at least it not owned by any large US corporation, and therefore not subject to corporate whims of their leadership.
> while the ones who shouldn’t be there will stick around and end up with an even bigger, uncontested audience.
Yes, and that's how it falls into complete irrelevance.
I agree that we should have something that is not US owned.
> Yes, and that's how it falls into complete irrelevance.
I think you underestimate the influence the european politicians have on the amount of people using X and the fact that they can also influence the american audience this way.
> Yes, and that's how it falls into complete irrelevance.
I think you underestimate the influence the european politicians have on the amount of people using X and the fact that they can also influence the american audience this way.
Perhaps I do.
I worry, however, how politicians might perceive public opinion if they account the response on Twitter as reality.
I worry, however, how politicians might perceive public opinion if they account the response on Twitter as reality.
Well Mastodon would make the most sense. They can run their own server with their own moderation policies while still federating with the broader network. The EU has actually already done this—the European Commission runs its own Mastodon instance.
That's really the key point: with Mastodon, you control your own space. So in theory you can create your own little bubble with your own rules.
Which is basically what Truth Social did, since it is also built on Mastodon, but they stripped out all the federation code—so it's just a walled garden that happens to use Mastodon's codebase. Maybe for the best.
That's really the key point: with Mastodon, you control your own space. So in theory you can create your own little bubble with your own rules.
Which is basically what Truth Social did, since it is also built on Mastodon, but they stripped out all the federation code—so it's just a walled garden that happens to use Mastodon's codebase. Maybe for the best.
Sorry but I prefer unfiltered toxic content that selectively toxic content filtered by an hidden agenda.
Also come back to me when the EU president is elected with direct democracy.
Also come back to me when the EU president is elected with direct democracy.
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Since I left X, I follow more sources and tend to verify them more often.
The alternatives are numerous. Starting from other social media with real governance (like mastodon), through RSS feeds, to forums/newsletters etc.
I especially like the idea of RSS feeds that allow to content creators to control completely their distribution channels. There are many good RSS aggregators such as innoreader of feedflow (for android).
Also connecting with people in real world is great.
The alternatives are numerous. Starting from other social media with real governance (like mastodon), through RSS feeds, to forums/newsletters etc.
I especially like the idea of RSS feeds that allow to content creators to control completely their distribution channels. There are many good RSS aggregators such as innoreader of feedflow (for android).
Also connecting with people in real world is great.
The best option would be to have a separate platform for the european heads of state to communicate with people that is not as partisan and crazy as X, BlueSky or Mastodon.
edit: not to mention that with how things are set up now, the people who actually add value will probably leave X, while the ones who shouldn’t be there will stick around and end up with an even bigger, uncontested audience. And their arguments of the opposite don't convince me. If all dissenting voices leave, the platform does not necessarily disappear, instead, it often calcifies into a radicalization machine. They are arguing for moral victory but a strategic defeat.
edit2: my biggest problem is not that they use X, but that they often use it exclusively, so your choice is to either follow them there or get what they are saying via a third party (a newspaper reprinting X or something).