Ask HN: What are your (non-hn-related) hobbies?
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Beer, shooting pool, foreign languages, extensive traveling (~30 countries) and just having a good time. Hate to exaggerate this, but I prefer having fun to everything else in life. Anyone else a creature of comfort? At some point I would like to own a blues bar and design my own award winning steaks and burgers (someone, please, clone Madam's Organ.)
Things I hate. Video games, television, nightclubs with loud "divas" and greasy men (the type where they vomit on each other's fake Luis Vuittons after 2AM; we go to gay clubs just because the crowd is both so much more civil, and far happier and fun, plus the music is so much better), IT books, things marketed at me, hyper-excited "startup" people.
Things I hate. Video games, television, nightclubs with loud "divas" and greasy men (the type where they vomit on each other's fake Luis Vuittons after 2AM; we go to gay clubs just because the crowd is both so much more civil, and far happier and fun, plus the music is so much better), IT books, things marketed at me, hyper-excited "startup" people.
I like most of those things too: beer, shooting pool and traveling adventures.
I also hate most of the same things: television, loud nightclubs, rude people.
I still like video games too though. They can be like a quick adventure in the middle of my stressed out every day life.
I also hate most of the same things: television, loud nightclubs, rude people.
I still like video games too though. They can be like a quick adventure in the middle of my stressed out every day life.
Upvoted for beer & foreign languages, but at the risk of starting One Of Those Debates; why the video game hate?
Two reasons:
1) I am a knowledge-whore. I like to think that after doing something for a substantial time, I will come out of it having learned something. I would consider film culturally enriching, mostly because I watch fringe, independent or foreign films; For some reason, I have a very high opinion of filmmakers as artists. However, I can't say the same about video games or their artistic or cultural merit. I am unable to consider them substantial in that regard.
2) I like to share and talk about my experiences. I can talk about movies, I can recommend albums, I will even take the time to scribble directions and notes on someone's pristine travel book and tell them where to go. But I can't do the same with video games. There is no particular instance that I can think about and reference later; either because the games are dynamically generated, or because the gamer demographic are just not the people that I tend to socialize with, so I don't identify with them.
Bonus:
3) I like realism. Along with video games, I don't tolerate Anime, Fantasy Fiction, or any other type of "geek" entertainment. I was offered two DVDs by my neighbor; The Dark Knight and The Quiet American; I took the later. Hard to explain, really.
P.S. I am a hopeless Soduku addict and play 30 minutes when I wake up in the morning, and 30 minutes before I go to bed. In fact, that's what I use my phone for 90% of the time.
1) I am a knowledge-whore. I like to think that after doing something for a substantial time, I will come out of it having learned something. I would consider film culturally enriching, mostly because I watch fringe, independent or foreign films; For some reason, I have a very high opinion of filmmakers as artists. However, I can't say the same about video games or their artistic or cultural merit. I am unable to consider them substantial in that regard.
2) I like to share and talk about my experiences. I can talk about movies, I can recommend albums, I will even take the time to scribble directions and notes on someone's pristine travel book and tell them where to go. But I can't do the same with video games. There is no particular instance that I can think about and reference later; either because the games are dynamically generated, or because the gamer demographic are just not the people that I tend to socialize with, so I don't identify with them.
Bonus:
3) I like realism. Along with video games, I don't tolerate Anime, Fantasy Fiction, or any other type of "geek" entertainment. I was offered two DVDs by my neighbor; The Dark Knight and The Quiet American; I took the later. Hard to explain, really.
P.S. I am a hopeless Soduku addict and play 30 minutes when I wake up in the morning, and 30 minutes before I go to bed. In fact, that's what I use my phone for 90% of the time.
I see what you're saying about realism. There are very few video games which aren't "wacky" in some respect. I'm happy you mentioned the sudoku thing, though... playing it on your phone blurs the line between puzzle, board game and video game.
For your first two points, it is tough to debate a subject like this, because I can only refer to specific video games as counterpoints... which you obviously have not played! Reading your post, though, I understand completely why you aren't a fan of video games.
What I will say is, there are video games out there which are culturally enriching, as well as games which possess discrete aspects and events that can be discussed with fellow gamers. Just as two avid cinema fans can discuss camera work, lighting and dialogue, so too can gamers debate the balance of storyline, visuals, music, gameplay mechanics, and cultural trappings. Video games are a very young medium, but I believe that if you are willing to spend the time looking, there are worthwhile finds.
Please note, I am not trying to say, "Shame on you for not spending more time playing video games." I understand if they're simply not your thing. But I think it is worth it for anyone to meditate on the idea that not every video game is a throwaway experience that cannot be savored or shared.
For your first two points, it is tough to debate a subject like this, because I can only refer to specific video games as counterpoints... which you obviously have not played! Reading your post, though, I understand completely why you aren't a fan of video games.
What I will say is, there are video games out there which are culturally enriching, as well as games which possess discrete aspects and events that can be discussed with fellow gamers. Just as two avid cinema fans can discuss camera work, lighting and dialogue, so too can gamers debate the balance of storyline, visuals, music, gameplay mechanics, and cultural trappings. Video games are a very young medium, but I believe that if you are willing to spend the time looking, there are worthwhile finds.
Please note, I am not trying to say, "Shame on you for not spending more time playing video games." I understand if they're simply not your thing. But I think it is worth it for anyone to meditate on the idea that not every video game is a throwaway experience that cannot be savored or shared.
I'm with you on video games, anime, and sci-fi/fantasy; for some reason, things targeted at geeks always rub me the wrong way. For instance, I can for the life of me not figure out why people enjoy Battlestar Galactica.
I'm not with you on TV. The best films I've seen in the past 5 years are nowhere nearly as good as The Wire or the first 4 seasons of The West Wing.
I'm not with you on TV. The best films I've seen in the past 5 years are nowhere nearly as good as The Wire or the first 4 seasons of The West Wing.
I'm right there with you on your other hobbies, but I do enjoy video games and don't comprehend your reasons here. You sound like you have an axe to grind with video games. Video games are anti-social. Video games aren't cultural. Come on.
1) Okay. So how does pool or Sudoku teach you something? I don't get this movies-to-games comparison. Apples and oranges. Games are not meant to be vehicles for artistic expression.
2) I find video games to be very social, actually. If it weren't for Xbox Live, I wouldn't interact with my old friends much except for when we all vacation back home for the holidays. Beyond that I find it very easy to talk about games with others. If you enjoy anything enough, you'll be able to have a discussion about it.
3) Fair enough.
1) Okay. So how does pool or Sudoku teach you something? I don't get this movies-to-games comparison. Apples and oranges. Games are not meant to be vehicles for artistic expression.
2) I find video games to be very social, actually. If it weren't for Xbox Live, I wouldn't interact with my old friends much except for when we all vacation back home for the holidays. Beyond that I find it very easy to talk about games with others. If you enjoy anything enough, you'll be able to have a discussion about it.
3) Fair enough.
Preface, I probably have a bias regarding the 'hate' towards videogames since I have worked in the field. I understand mahmud's point of view and have friends and family that share his viewpoint as well.
I would say that videogames, as a medium, are artistic; some titles more than others. One quick example would be a title like 'Ico'; in my estimation, the visual impact and animation was similar to an impressionist painting, the lighting effects and overall composition was very well put together. How can the graphics team, animators, creative director not be considered artists? Its a matter of taste I suppose because after playing through that interactive piece of art, I recommended and spoke about it with many people.
I would say that videogames, as a medium, are artistic; some titles more than others. One quick example would be a title like 'Ico'; in my estimation, the visual impact and animation was similar to an impressionist painting, the lighting effects and overall composition was very well put together. How can the graphics team, animators, creative director not be considered artists? Its a matter of taste I suppose because after playing through that interactive piece of art, I recommended and spoke about it with many people.
So you hate video games for the same reason theatergoers hate the cinema at the turn of the century. You hate the current offering rather than the medium itself.
Video games suck up lots of time and leave you with nothing when you're done. Two hours spent bickering on IRC or Hacker News at least teaches you things. I'm not sure if that's exactly what mahmud said, but that's my reasoning, and I thought his was close to mine.
So you don't watch movies, either? Or read books? Two hours of time in which you learn nothing?
I definitely watch movies and read book, but I feel like I come away from them with something, unlike with video games.
I get that some people do feel like they get something out of playing video games, and I'm not indicting them.
I get that some people do feel like they get something out of playing video games, and I'm not indicting them.
It's a matter of playing the right games. I tend to play shorter arthouse games. Braid, Blueberry Garden, Everyday Shooter, and its kin.
At the risk of not conveying mahmud's true reasons, I'd like to chime in since I share all of his hates. If I had to pick a reason to hate video games, I'd say because they are mental sugar. They are a huge time sink and when you are playing video games you are not partaking in other things that I (and maybe the OP) attribute more value to, like socializing, exercising, or a number of other activities.
I see! That's a fair criticism, but I feel like a lot of new games are distancing themselves from being mere time sinks. I would compare video games to books or movies: there are certainly countless examples of each type of media that are just time killers. However, every so often there are books, movies, and indeed, games (video or otherwise) that provide novel experiences, provoke thought, and titillate the player's intellect and creativity.
A few examples: Scribblenauts, a recent Nintendo DS game in which the player can invoke any object he can imagine to help solve the game's puzzles. Shadow of the Colossus, a Playstation 2 game from a few years back, has a unique mood and a compelling narrative that challenge many fine works of cinema.
Do you think those types of games change the playing field at all? 10 - 15 years ago, I would have agreed with you completely, but I think that, as a developing field, video games are coming into their own as a "proper" form of media. Also, you mention socialization and exercise as having value over video games, but see games like Wii Fit or Left4Dead which combine those things with gameplay.
EDIT: Also, communities can form around these video games. For example, I really enjoy one-on-one competitive sports & games. I fence three nights a week, and regularly travel anywhere from 30 to 300 miles for tournaments. However, I have also traveled similar distances for Street Fighter tournaments. I have found that the fighting game community is as tightly knit as the fencing community. A few times, I have come through a city where I know someone from a message board, but have never met. On those nights, I had a place to stay solely based on my connections through this video game-based community. Don't really know how that fits into the debate, but it seemed relevant.
A few examples: Scribblenauts, a recent Nintendo DS game in which the player can invoke any object he can imagine to help solve the game's puzzles. Shadow of the Colossus, a Playstation 2 game from a few years back, has a unique mood and a compelling narrative that challenge many fine works of cinema.
Do you think those types of games change the playing field at all? 10 - 15 years ago, I would have agreed with you completely, but I think that, as a developing field, video games are coming into their own as a "proper" form of media. Also, you mention socialization and exercise as having value over video games, but see games like Wii Fit or Left4Dead which combine those things with gameplay.
EDIT: Also, communities can form around these video games. For example, I really enjoy one-on-one competitive sports & games. I fence three nights a week, and regularly travel anywhere from 30 to 300 miles for tournaments. However, I have also traveled similar distances for Street Fighter tournaments. I have found that the fighting game community is as tightly knit as the fencing community. A few times, I have come through a city where I know someone from a message board, but have never met. On those nights, I had a place to stay solely based on my connections through this video game-based community. Don't really know how that fits into the debate, but it seemed relevant.
Video games can potentially improve hand eye coordination, spacial reasoning, and reflex times. There have been experiments that have shown that doctors who played video games growing up, were more skilled in surgery. Perhaps just a correlation and not causation, but definitely something to consider.
I also think I'm a better driver because I play games, and better at understanding sports.
I also think I'm a better driver because I play games, and better at understanding sports.
Knitting and crocheting and everything fiber-arts related. I love it because it seems tedious or stupid to a lot of people who don't know how to knit, but I get a lot of satisfaction out of creating fun things for my friends and family and myself (see http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/432735303/Photo_on_2009-0... for one ;) ) and I also enjoy using my tech background to convince people on Ravelry (a super big social networking site for knitters etc.) that knitting and designing patterns can be a lot like coding (cause some of them are super intimidated by tech, bah).
I also loooooove playing the piano. And making ice cream from scratch, for the interesting combinations and flavors you can make. And like a lot of other HNers are mentioning, learning foreign languages, even though I don't necessarily get a chance to practice speaking them much :( Snowboarding too, despite living in sunny LA. I wish I could get started with indoor rock climbing here as well, but I haven't really found anywhere good for that near where I live.
I also loooooove playing the piano. And making ice cream from scratch, for the interesting combinations and flavors you can make. And like a lot of other HNers are mentioning, learning foreign languages, even though I don't necessarily get a chance to practice speaking them much :( Snowboarding too, despite living in sunny LA. I wish I could get started with indoor rock climbing here as well, but I haven't really found anywhere good for that near where I live.
I highly recommend fencing. It's a spectacular workout, and the three different weapons provide unique experiences, one of which will certainly cater to your intellect or personality. Foil is highly strategic, épée is much less rules-oriented and the most like a "real" duel of the three, and sabre is extremely fast-paced.
The only downside is that competing can get expensive, but the exposure to so many different fencing styles is worth it. All three weapons are fun and intellectually stimulating to study, and the community is universally supportive. I think it's an excellent "hackers' game."
My other hobbies: drawing & painting, writing & reading (always reading), finding new music to listen to, video games, and poker (another great game with deep strategy behind it).
The only downside is that competing can get expensive, but the exposure to so many different fencing styles is worth it. All three weapons are fun and intellectually stimulating to study, and the community is universally supportive. I think it's an excellent "hackers' game."
My other hobbies: drawing & painting, writing & reading (always reading), finding new music to listen to, video games, and poker (another great game with deep strategy behind it).
I fenced in school and enjoyed it, but as for being a workout I was always bothered by how it's so asymmetrical. I'm right handed and so it didn't work my left arm nearly as much.
>>asymmetrical
You can say the same about tennis... I wouldn’t worry. You can also try "period" fencing (look up "SCA"). The rules are different: if you are "wounded" on the right arm, you have to switch to the left. There is also two-handed fencing (longsword).
You can say the same about tennis... I wouldn’t worry. You can also try "period" fencing (look up "SCA"). The rules are different: if you are "wounded" on the right arm, you have to switch to the left. There is also two-handed fencing (longsword).
It can be challenging and instructive to fence off-handed. I don't know anyone who regularly swaps between handedness to keep it even, but now that you mention it, it's a pretty interesting idea...
I have thought of getting into fencing. DHH's article about it a couple years ago piqued my interest.
Maybe I'm just elitist, but I think that with more obscure sports/hobbies you meet more interesting people. Anyone can play/talk about basketball, without much effort put in to play/learn about the sport. A sport like fencing though, requires a much more serious investment of time and follow through. Has anyone else noticed this?
Maybe I'm just elitist, but I think that with more obscure sports/hobbies you meet more interesting people. Anyone can play/talk about basketball, without much effort put in to play/learn about the sport. A sport like fencing though, requires a much more serious investment of time and follow through. Has anyone else noticed this?
That is funny, I started thinking about fencing (or rather sword fighting in general) a couple of weeks ago.
Do you by chance have the link to his article? My google-fo seems week.
Do you by chance have the link to his article? My google-fo seems week.
Do you by chance have the link to his article? My google-fo seems week.
Cycling is all I have time for, outside of programming (which is also a hobby) and family life. I used to like to go salsa dancing with my wife, but the baby is a bit of a hindrance to going out:-/ I also love to go out for drinks (spritz!) in the piazzas here - I would miss that a great deal if I ever went back to the US.
Beach volleyball (doubles) was my obsession this summer. I spent 10-15 hours per week at the beach. It helped me to be more social (I made a lot of new friends), got in better shape, got a tan (that's something new to me), and everyone I know kept asking if I did something to my hair because sun gave me natural highlights.
But yeah, doubles volleyball played by the proper rules (no-spin sets, no open hand dinks, no setting on one, no setting over the net) is so much more fun than "gorilla ball" (where it doesn't matter how you hit it, as long as the ball stays in the air), as one of the other guys affectionately calls it.
Oh, and I'm from Milwaukee, Wisconsin (play at Bradford Beach), so this unfortunately can't be a year-long hobby (at least Beach volleyball can't be). Given my obsession over this, I'd seriously consider moving somewhere nice like Florida just to play BV year-long.
But yeah, doubles volleyball played by the proper rules (no-spin sets, no open hand dinks, no setting on one, no setting over the net) is so much more fun than "gorilla ball" (where it doesn't matter how you hit it, as long as the ball stays in the air), as one of the other guys affectionately calls it.
Oh, and I'm from Milwaukee, Wisconsin (play at Bradford Beach), so this unfortunately can't be a year-long hobby (at least Beach volleyball can't be). Given my obsession over this, I'd seriously consider moving somewhere nice like Florida just to play BV year-long.
It used to mostly be playing, trading, collecting, teaching, and admiring guitar. And audio production. I owned a boutique guitar store (high-end, appointment only) on the side, and I still own a recording studio and mobile unit. I find that my formal business interests are now crowding everything else out because I simply enjoy it more. I was so into guitar (interest, time, and money-wise) for so long that I'm trying to force myself to give it a rest. [Well, to be fair, I also had some paralysis for a while that helped slow me down.] I haven't taught in a while, no longer play out, and the studio is professionally managed and run by others now...so it has become too difficult to justify to the wife why I need $750,000 worth of guitars to entertain myself. She thinks one guitar and one amp should suffice. Philistine! ;)
Learning, teaching, writing, bicycling, amateurish photography (snapshots, honestly), dorking with Lego stuff, cooking, camping.
Of course, I got to do almost all of that at once this summer, when I led a group of 11 cyclists to a lake about 30 miles outside of town. All of us had packed up with our camping gear on our bicycles, and very few the participants had done anything like it before. I taught them about what kinds of stuff to bring, and all that. I cooked on a makeshift camp stove. We all camped overnight and rode home the next morning after cooking our various breakfast items. I took lots of photos and wrote about it. As it was only my second time "backpacking with my bicycle" I also learned a few things myself.
Basically, it was everything that I love doing that doesn't directly involve programming, soldering or Lego.
Of course, I got to do almost all of that at once this summer, when I led a group of 11 cyclists to a lake about 30 miles outside of town. All of us had packed up with our camping gear on our bicycles, and very few the participants had done anything like it before. I taught them about what kinds of stuff to bring, and all that. I cooked on a makeshift camp stove. We all camped overnight and rode home the next morning after cooking our various breakfast items. I took lots of photos and wrote about it. As it was only my second time "backpacking with my bicycle" I also learned a few things myself.
Basically, it was everything that I love doing that doesn't directly involve programming, soldering or Lego.
Sailing and skiing.
I have really gotten into sailing recently, especially racing. There is so much beauty, skill, and thinking in the sport.
I am a huge f1 fan. I either go to a meetup to watch the race (normally at 7am). Normally in addition I download a British feed of Friday practice 1 and 2 (speedtv only shows p2), Saturday p3, and qualifying. F1 has a lot of political intrigue, tactics and technology.
I'm not into a lot of traditional geek hobbies. I could care less about comics, sci-fi, or video games. Comics and sci-fi have just never done much for me, I just couldn't get into them. I enjoy video games when I play them, but they are just too much of a time sink, so I stay away. The first person shooters seem to require a large amount of skill and practice, when I play them I fell hopelessly lost.
I am a huge f1 fan. I either go to a meetup to watch the race (normally at 7am). Normally in addition I download a British feed of Friday practice 1 and 2 (speedtv only shows p2), Saturday p3, and qualifying. F1 has a lot of political intrigue, tactics and technology.
I'm not into a lot of traditional geek hobbies. I could care less about comics, sci-fi, or video games. Comics and sci-fi have just never done much for me, I just couldn't get into them. I enjoy video games when I play them, but they are just too much of a time sink, so I stay away. The first person shooters seem to require a large amount of skill and practice, when I play them I fell hopelessly lost.
Same here for sailing. Just got into it a few months ago. I love how intellectual the skills required for the sport are, and the long tradition of seamanship. Also one thing that appeals to the nerd side of me is there is so much specialized sailing vocabulary to learn, and I'm now beginning to read more on the topic on the physics of sailing
One bonus also is it's a very social sport. I don't have my own boat, so joined a local sailing co-op/club here in Minneapolis. Now that I've passed my "skipper tests" I'm free to take out their fleet of boats (about 12) anytime I like. I get to sail with other skippers twice a week, and learn from their experience. Most everyone is incredibly nice.
Unfortunately the seasons is just about up here, we're pulling the boats off the water this Saturday :(
One bonus also is it's a very social sport. I don't have my own boat, so joined a local sailing co-op/club here in Minneapolis. Now that I've passed my "skipper tests" I'm free to take out their fleet of boats (about 12) anytime I like. I get to sail with other skippers twice a week, and learn from their experience. Most everyone is incredibly nice.
Unfortunately the seasons is just about up here, we're pulling the boats off the water this Saturday :(
Bonus for sailing - I don't think I've ever partied with anyone harder than I have with sailors.
I lived with the captain of the racing team in college and we hosted the party for our regatta. It lasted the whole weekend and we built a special table to accommodate the flipcup (though, they call it boat racing and it involves a megaphone)
I lived with the captain of the racing team in college and we hosted the party for our regatta. It lasted the whole weekend and we built a special table to accommodate the flipcup (though, they call it boat racing and it involves a megaphone)
Where do you sail? I have been looking to get into it. My goal was to help out on current races and get into it that way. (I hear people need all the help they can get and will let you come along for free). I'm near Baltimore so there are a few active sailing clubs around here.
I sail at the Manhattan Sailing Club. http://myc.org membership is reasonable, about the same cost as a gym membership.
Racing is even cheaper if you know what you are doing. The words you are looking for is "rail meat". When the boat is going upwind it heels over, you need people on the uphill side of the boat on the rail. Being rail meat require very little knowledge. I would try to go out on days with unpleasant weather, fewer people show up. Rosh Hashanah was the first time I got out on Long Island sound (the boat had a very hard time finding crew that Saturday).
Try the Annapolis races, I'm not sure of where they meet, but you could probably get out on Wednesday nights and Saturdays.
Racing is even cheaper if you know what you are doing. The words you are looking for is "rail meat". When the boat is going upwind it heels over, you need people on the uphill side of the boat on the rail. Being rail meat require very little knowledge. I would try to go out on days with unpleasant weather, fewer people show up. Rosh Hashanah was the first time I got out on Long Island sound (the boat had a very hard time finding crew that Saturday).
Try the Annapolis races, I'm not sure of where they meet, but you could probably get out on Wednesday nights and Saturdays.
I listen to excessive amounts of music. Just today I've gone through an old dreampop favorite ("Treasure" by the Cocteau Twins), gave a neoclassical album a try, listened to both an intense breakcore album and a darker classical album by a guy called Venetian Snares, and now I'm listening to the Kronos Quartet playing African pieces. There's a chance I'll be writing music with a few people in the near future, and I hate songwriting with a fixed genre in mind, so right now I'm browsing furiously.
I also read and watch movies and TV when I can find things I enjoy. I'm rewatching The Wire right now, since it's hard to find new enjoyable shows. I'm trying to get into cooking and fashion: That's my goal for this year. And I'm thinking about giving a rave or two a try later this month.
I also read and watch movies and TV when I can find things I enjoy. I'm rewatching The Wire right now, since it's hard to find new enjoyable shows. I'm trying to get into cooking and fashion: That's my goal for this year. And I'm thinking about giving a rave or two a try later this month.
Mostly: books, music, my fiancée, COD4 on a tactical server (no blind fire and jumping around).
Wish I had something cool to write about here ("rebuilding pre-1950s motorcycles"), but in fact, "books" includes so many things that it's enough to keep me occupied.
Wish I had something cool to write about here ("rebuilding pre-1950s motorcycles"), but in fact, "books" includes so many things that it's enough to keep me occupied.
Gardening! Stick plant in ground, just add water, and magic happens. It's great!
There's a lot of hackery you can do if you like gardening as well. It's a constant battle of fine-tuning.
I've changed my watering schedules no less than 20 times this summer to try to get optimal moisture levels. I also do everything organically, so it's a little more challenging to take care of ants when you can't just shake on some Amdro (the solution is nematodes btw).
There is no limit to how easy or how complex you want to make things. I've made watering helpers with some drip line, bamboo and a 1 gallon milk container for long weekends when I was starting plants out, or planted hot peppers around some plants that one of my dogs insisted on tasting all the time.
It really is a lot of fun and way more hacker friendly than you might expect at first.
I've changed my watering schedules no less than 20 times this summer to try to get optimal moisture levels. I also do everything organically, so it's a little more challenging to take care of ants when you can't just shake on some Amdro (the solution is nematodes btw).
There is no limit to how easy or how complex you want to make things. I've made watering helpers with some drip line, bamboo and a 1 gallon milk container for long weekends when I was starting plants out, or planted hot peppers around some plants that one of my dogs insisted on tasting all the time.
It really is a lot of fun and way more hacker friendly than you might expect at first.
Brewing beer and working on sub-$1000 BMWs and Porsches.
I'm putting together an '88 924S for DE right now. The fuel pump went out on my $1400 e36 today at lunch. I'll fix it in the parking garage after work. I guess that means my hobbies include wrenching on german junk, playing synth rock twee core, snowboarding, running, and writing.
You got an E36 for $1400? How many miles?
where can i find a sub 1000 porsche?
On craigslist, you can sometimes find cars that are in dire need of repair and as such need hauled away. For example for 1k flat:
1975 porsche 914 2.0 partially dissaembled, has rust issues, complete car with rebuildable motor and transaxel, many new parts also has origanal fuel injection system intact.
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1407277633.html
1975 porsche 914 2.0 partially dissaembled, has rust issues, complete car with rebuildable motor and transaxel, many new parts also has origanal fuel injection system intact.
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1407277633.html
I will sell you an '87 944S with no engine for $500 right now.
I volunteer with my local fire dept.
Also, I keep fish (both fresh and salt), and practice Tae Kwon Do.
Also, I keep fish (both fresh and salt), and practice Tae Kwon Do.
Wow, cool. What sorts of work do you do as a volunteer? How much time do you usually dedicate?
I'm a Firefighter/EMT.
Time commitment is a minimum of 24 hours per week, but that's not "active" time. For most of it I'm home sleeping, but respond if the pager goes off. We also have several cubicles at the station, with access to power, internet, a printer, a coffee machine, etc, so I'll generally work there if I'm looking to get out of the house for a while.
There is certainly some time involved in training, etc... That probably averages out to an hour or two per week. Occasionally specific classes will take more time (I just finished an advanced rope rescue course that was spread over two weekends).
Time commitment is a minimum of 24 hours per week, but that's not "active" time. For most of it I'm home sleeping, but respond if the pager goes off. We also have several cubicles at the station, with access to power, internet, a printer, a coffee machine, etc, so I'll generally work there if I'm looking to get out of the house for a while.
There is certainly some time involved in training, etc... That probably averages out to an hour or two per week. Occasionally specific classes will take more time (I just finished an advanced rope rescue course that was spread over two weekends).
Japanese - studying Kanji and grammar (still at basic to low-intermediate level), but have over 2k Kanji down and can read manga. Goals are flency (and yell at my kids in Japanese :).
Video Games - I only play on the Nintendo DS, and at that not often, but I do enjoy it and wish I had more time, but the aforementioned hobby takes almost all my free time.
Video Games - I only play on the Nintendo DS, and at that not often, but I do enjoy it and wish I had more time, but the aforementioned hobby takes almost all my free time.
Roller skating!
(Until 5 weeks ago that is - I was skating backwards fast round a corner on one leg and believe I hit a bearing that was on the rink - ouch broken hip).
Photography, building Lego models, Playing the piano, Watching old movies, and most of all playing with the kids.
Photography, building Lego models, Playing the piano, Watching old movies, and most of all playing with the kids.
I play poker and I cook. I love the extra money I win at playing a fun card game, and I love to invite people over for dinner parties. Somehow, I wish my hobbies had a bit more synergy! :)
I also enjoy reading quite a bit.
I also enjoy reading quite a bit.
Documentary photography. It is in large part about social skills: getting access, asking questions, talking people in, negotiating through police fences etc. Something totally opposite to my dayjob.
Do you do this for yourself or for a second employer? Is it mostly social engineering or just being very steadfast? I'd love to know more about it.
Aside for a short stint with an agency in 2006, I do everything for myself. Photojournalism is a tough area, with opportunities shrinking, and (if you can afford it) it is best to do the work which genuinely interests you than pick up marginal assignments. Remember, old press is dying, new one is not anywhere in sight :)
One thing to distinguish is long-term, documentary work and current events. The latter is basically reportage, the bread and butter of news agencies and newspapers. On the former though, you can choose your ground and take your time.
I start a project with pulling all information I can from the web: saves time on the ground. Names, history, maps, prior works in this area. If necessary finding the initial contacts. Over there, it's approaching people, asking questions (not necessarily identifying yourself as a photographer), you can get a lot of context just from casual chit-chat. Good thing is that most people love being heard, so give them all attention you can. Start a neutral conversation, listen, nod, let them pour out: very few people are generous listeners, so your attention will be appreciated and you can ask the questions you want afterward.
In case of hot events, various police and security troops are a major challenge and great test of your social skills. There it's best if you can start small, attending fenced but calm events, just to get the gist of unspoken rules, protocols and routines. Obviously you can't generalize this worldwide, but. Be attentive, observe police, observe protesters or other people interacting with law enforcement, see how much can work with them. Read faces, in case of militias face is a good indicator how much problem you are going to have with a given person. If he looks like a scumbag he probably is. There are weak points in most of cordons and often ways to sneak past fences. It is best if you stay calm, neutral, and project confidence; especially confident, you can pull nearly Jedi-like tricks with it. Do not insist on eye contact but do not avoid it either. Don't smile, it shows your weakness and reduces your chances to successfully communicating with people in power dramatically.
It may sound hard but the skills build up quickly once you start doing.
One thing to distinguish is long-term, documentary work and current events. The latter is basically reportage, the bread and butter of news agencies and newspapers. On the former though, you can choose your ground and take your time.
I start a project with pulling all information I can from the web: saves time on the ground. Names, history, maps, prior works in this area. If necessary finding the initial contacts. Over there, it's approaching people, asking questions (not necessarily identifying yourself as a photographer), you can get a lot of context just from casual chit-chat. Good thing is that most people love being heard, so give them all attention you can. Start a neutral conversation, listen, nod, let them pour out: very few people are generous listeners, so your attention will be appreciated and you can ask the questions you want afterward.
In case of hot events, various police and security troops are a major challenge and great test of your social skills. There it's best if you can start small, attending fenced but calm events, just to get the gist of unspoken rules, protocols and routines. Obviously you can't generalize this worldwide, but. Be attentive, observe police, observe protesters or other people interacting with law enforcement, see how much can work with them. Read faces, in case of militias face is a good indicator how much problem you are going to have with a given person. If he looks like a scumbag he probably is. There are weak points in most of cordons and often ways to sneak past fences. It is best if you stay calm, neutral, and project confidence; especially confident, you can pull nearly Jedi-like tricks with it. Do not insist on eye contact but do not avoid it either. Don't smile, it shows your weakness and reduces your chances to successfully communicating with people in power dramatically.
It may sound hard but the skills build up quickly once you start doing.
How does one get in touch with documentary filmmakers and photographers to get them a scoop?
Cannot speak with authority here. If your lead is of importance to big global or regional events, a best bet would be approaching someone from a news agency. One place to find those folk is lightstalkers.org, although it is by no means comprehensive.
For local news, try starting with the best newspaper in your area. Editorial contacts is usually listed in paper's exit data, sometimes along with a contact for tips.
For local news, try starting with the best newspaper in your area. Editorial contacts is usually listed in paper's exit data, sometimes along with a contact for tips.
Anything to look at on the web? I have a lot of respect for people going into the trenches.
Let's see.. here are couple of shots from post-elections protests in Minsk, Belarus, March 2006.
The night when results were announced. People look happy but really they were not, just reacting to a sarcastic joke off the stage. For whatever reason, this photo ended all over Chinese blogs in 2007, captioned as "people rejoicing New Year". http://www.thespiderawards.com/2007presentation/photoshow/no...
Paramedics working over a protester after a clash. He was delivering a portable toilet to the tent camp encircled by riot police. Broken ribs, concussion. I was the only photographer hinted to his coming, due to good networking with protesters; however I got caught up amidst the melee, so action shots turned lousy. http://s3.amazonaws.com/lightstalkers/images/60557/23_2_640....
Now, a less dramatic story. An agricultural fair in Orsha, Belarus. It was an old Pagan celebration of harvest, revived by the president. A dissonant mix of pseudo-folklore and 3rd world style heavy policing in classic Soviet entourage. A total insider show, where local brands and enterprises are mandated to participate (sort of a national exhibition), and with the president de-facto assuming the role of Harvest God. http://pa.photoshelter.com/gallery-slideshow/G0000vbMKecuSr4...
So nothing groundbreaking really, but remember, we're talking hobbies here :)
The night when results were announced. People look happy but really they were not, just reacting to a sarcastic joke off the stage. For whatever reason, this photo ended all over Chinese blogs in 2007, captioned as "people rejoicing New Year". http://www.thespiderawards.com/2007presentation/photoshow/no...
Paramedics working over a protester after a clash. He was delivering a portable toilet to the tent camp encircled by riot police. Broken ribs, concussion. I was the only photographer hinted to his coming, due to good networking with protesters; however I got caught up amidst the melee, so action shots turned lousy. http://s3.amazonaws.com/lightstalkers/images/60557/23_2_640....
Now, a less dramatic story. An agricultural fair in Orsha, Belarus. It was an old Pagan celebration of harvest, revived by the president. A dissonant mix of pseudo-folklore and 3rd world style heavy policing in classic Soviet entourage. A total insider show, where local brands and enterprises are mandated to participate (sort of a national exhibition), and with the president de-facto assuming the role of Harvest God. http://pa.photoshelter.com/gallery-slideshow/G0000vbMKecuSr4...
So nothing groundbreaking really, but remember, we're talking hobbies here :)
I like it - don't underestimate the interest, for me it is pictures from far away :-)
Mountain biking :)
Trying to train 3-4 times per week (after work) for races coming up in the spring. Getting hard without daylight on my side. Gonna have to buy a light soon. Or adjust my work hours.
Trying to train 3-4 times per week (after work) for races coming up in the spring. Getting hard without daylight on my side. Gonna have to buy a light soon. Or adjust my work hours.
Check out Candlepower forums. There are guys there inspiring me to built an LED kilo-lumen beast for my winter commuter bike. I'm sure you could build something to suit your singletrack fetish. :)
Man, 256 lumens ought to be enough for anybody.
I had a DiNotte 200L (200 Lumens) and it barely cut it. I mean, the optics might have something to do with it... throwing photon from hither to yon without a really good focused area on the road. I'd outrun my light (going too fast to stop in time for a hazard exposed by my light) at maybe 12 MPH on a clear night on the dark backroads. I can see maybe 500-600 lumens being sufficient, but 256 doesn't seem like enough to me.
You're right -- the optics are everything. The flashlight fetishists love round symmetrical beams, which is exactly what you don't want in a headlight.
You want to focus almost all of the light at the horizon, with some spill below and a sharp cutoff above. Anything else is wasted. See: http://peterwhitecycles.com/plight.asp
You want to focus almost all of the light at the horizon, with some spill below and a sharp cutoff above. Anything else is wasted. See: http://peterwhitecycles.com/plight.asp
I agree. It's just hard to find good headlight-worthy optics for DIY LED or Halogen lights. You always have to buy the whole package, always for $too.much from someone like Peter White, or the local bike shop.
Even my "good" headlight (15W, ~300 lumens by my guess) is just a stupid 6V MR11 bulb with a clear waterproof lens in a waterproof housing. No optics. It's just a farking accent light that can be bolted to a bike. Über lame.
Even my "good" headlight (15W, ~300 lumens by my guess) is just a stupid 6V MR11 bulb with a clear waterproof lens in a waterproof housing. No optics. It's just a farking accent light that can be bolted to a bike. Über lame.
Night riding can be a lot of fun. It's best on a nice single track on a summer's night, when it's just cooling off some, but can be fun in winter too if you're dressed right.
Photography, Philosophy, Cooking, Travelling, Driving, Lockpicking, Tennis
(fun fact: my current start-up was put in to gear because of my photo addiction and a few unsolved problems the field had)
(fun fact: my current start-up was put in to gear because of my photo addiction and a few unsolved problems the field had)
Muay Thai, Jiu Jitsu.
Learning the warrior mindset you need in the ring will change your perspective on a lot of things in life. And it will keep you in excellent shape, minus injuries.
Learning the warrior mindset you need in the ring will change your perspective on a lot of things in life. And it will keep you in excellent shape, minus injuries.
Seconded. I spent a couple years training Muay Thai before getting bitten by the BJJ bug. I'm trying to fit in more standup again now, but I still try to spend at least an hour every weekday on the mats.
Having a very physical hobby keeps me grounded in reality after spending most of the day thinking about philosophy or writing or coding (I'm a student). There's a lot of pretty direct feedback about your improvement over time, too, which I find can be lacking in more intellectual pursuits.
Having a very physical hobby keeps me grounded in reality after spending most of the day thinking about philosophy or writing or coding (I'm a student). There's a lot of pretty direct feedback about your improvement over time, too, which I find can be lacking in more intellectual pursuits.
Lindy hop, it's wicked fun! I've been going once a week for a few months now and did a half day workshop last weekend.
http://www.swingland.com/
And I do a bit of drumming, although have been a bit lazy lately. Mostly my hobbies have revolved around music. I enjoy hiking too but haven't been out too much recently. Tried surfing for the first time recently. I was crap at it but it was still good fun. Must go back.
http://www.swingland.com/
And I do a bit of drumming, although have been a bit lazy lately. Mostly my hobbies have revolved around music. I enjoy hiking too but haven't been out too much recently. Tried surfing for the first time recently. I was crap at it but it was still good fun. Must go back.
Basketball - Active hobby of choice. Will play this until my body stops me.
Finance - Learning to actually make money in the market (equities and equity options).
Eating out with friends - Trying different types of food is great, but the company is the best part.
Traveling - Not a frequent flier or anything but trying to make it to Japan this next year.
Learning Mandarin - Trying to learn my "mother tongue." That side of my brain seems to be dysfunctional, so this is one area I need a lot more work.
Finance - Learning to actually make money in the market (equities and equity options).
Eating out with friends - Trying different types of food is great, but the company is the best part.
Traveling - Not a frequent flier or anything but trying to make it to Japan this next year.
Learning Mandarin - Trying to learn my "mother tongue." That side of my brain seems to be dysfunctional, so this is one area I need a lot more work.
I enjoy various sorts of hands-on projects when I need a break for the tech world:
Woodworking - building furniture, etc.
Fixing up old pinball machines
Working on the house, minor remodeling sorts of projects
Woodworking - building furniture, etc.
Fixing up old pinball machines
Working on the house, minor remodeling sorts of projects
If beer counts as a hobby (drinking it) then count me in there.. But more seriously I take cooking pretty seriously as well as fly fishing and running.
Cooking. I mostly suck at it, but that's part of why I like it. I'm doing a lot of charcuterie-style stuff lately, and a lot of playing with sous vide.
I am a total finance and economics nerd after being a programmer. I find something really interesting about markets, derivatives, et al.
do you build micro-economy models?
Aircraft modelling. Particularly the executive jets. Time passes by in a whirl. Either that or Microsoft Flight Simulator.
I do a small amount of pen and paper roleplaying, and the odd bit of computer gaming. Mostly though, I'm a political economy nerd. I read a lot of industrial economics, and a pile of political/current affairs stuff. The Phoenix, the Village, the Economist, as well as a reasonable amount of more textbook type stuff.
Bowling. If I had to pick only one thing to do it would be this. My goal is to be competitive on the PBA Tour. I'm averaging 220 right now, but that needs to be closer to 235-240 to be competitive.
My other big hobby is music. http://thesixtyone.com/abledanger
My other big hobby is music. http://thesixtyone.com/abledanger
Winemaking, electronics (somewhat HN related since I sometimes sell what I make and do consulting), machining metal, raising chickens, gardening, various forms of art, learning to play flute.
I guess baking could count as a hobby since I do enjoy it quite a bit, but the primary driver is hunger, not passing the time :-)
I guess baking could count as a hobby since I do enjoy it quite a bit, but the primary driver is hunger, not passing the time :-)
Rock climbing, mountaineering, backpacking, SCUBA, sailing, aviation, traveling, snowboarding, having fun!
Whoa, I share every one of those except scuba (Trying to get into sailing now). Where are you physically?
Edit: based on posts, I guess Seattle.
Haha and objc dev also.
Edit: based on posts, I guess Seattle.
Haha and objc dev also.
Yeah in Seattle area atm, thinking about moving to San Francisco though. Where are you located?
I'm in Baltimore area and in Philly and NY areas often enough. I too have similar aspirations to make it out to the bay area eventually with gf. I was just in Lake Tahoe area (and SF) for climbing last week.
Ice hockey. (Hey, I'm a Minnesotan!) Besides that, I like baking, photography (especially sports photography), cycling, and making a really good cup of tea. Sailing was great when I lived in California, and snowboarding will be fun once there's some snow on the ground.
I play Warhammer, ride bikes, and code things that are totally different than what my startup does.
Playing with my son, windsurfing and playing electric guitar. I like to do many more things, but I don't always find the time or the place. I like chess, drawing, billiards, foosball, karate, reading, net games and going out on weekends (or everyday in the summer).
Snowboarding, hiking, cycling, basement dance parties, photography, making random videos, this american life on NPR, watching geeked out documentaries like helvetica, and getting up on my wife... not necessarily in that order. Oh, and eating, I love eating.
Really, you're a snowboarder?
I write poems and short stories, listen to music (largely indie rock, classic rock, and old folk), bake, and do a little sewing (working on narwal costumes for my baby twins). Then there's python!
Alas, my hobbies are mostly on hold until the babies get bigger.
Alas, my hobbies are mostly on hold until the babies get bigger.
Geocaching & OpenStreetMap are two of my favourite hobbies I recommend to anyone here.
Another geocacher here :D
I recommend it to everybody too! www.geocaching.com
I recommend it to everybody too! www.geocaching.com
Paragliding and ultramarathon running. This year I took part in one of the hardest adventure races in the world, the Red Bull X-Alps. http://www.redbullxalps.com/ I'm GBR2.
Jazz piano, frisbee, running, super smash brothers, age of empires. [des moines]
Argentine Tango
Violin, speculative fiction writing, bare-running, whiskey. [NYC]
Thinking, argument, negotiation, strategy games, pacing, stretching, cycling, reading, writing, wandering, exploring places, metaphorical bomb defusal [NH]
Scuba. San Jose, but I just returned from the Galapagos.
Snowboarding, Snowmobiling, Video Games, Soccer, and I guess I could say "Drinking" is a hobby but I more mean drunken socializing with my friends.
Learning Portuguese, studying physics for fun/knowledge, learning how to build an auto engine, and training for private pilot's certificate.
How far long are you on your license (and physics for that matter)? I took my break earlier this year right before stage 1 check, hoping to return soon.
Just started the "instrument rating" section in the following book:
Microsoft Flight Simulator X For Pilots Real World Training
Excellent book that should end up saving me lots of actual flying time in preparation for the certification test.
As for physics, I'm re-taking the first calc-based physics course (online) at UNC Charlotte this fall. Just enjoying studying the basics again. I'll probably take 1-2 classes per semester until I can get a degree in it. May go for masters, not sure yet.
Excellent book that should end up saving me lots of actual flying time in preparation for the certification test.
As for physics, I'm re-taking the first calc-based physics course (online) at UNC Charlotte this fall. Just enjoying studying the basics again. I'll probably take 1-2 classes per semester until I can get a degree in it. May go for masters, not sure yet.
FWIW, there isn't much instrument training for your private certificate. You basically just need to be able to understand VOR navigation, manage attitude and speed, and navigate based on instructions from the tower using your instruments.
They pretty much want to give you the skills needed to get help and get back on the ground if you find yourself in a bad situation. And to not overreact and stall or spin yourself into the ground because you didn't trust the instruments.
With that said, there isn't such a thing as knowing too much about flying. But if your aircraft isn't IFR equipped (and lots of rentals aren't), you won't be able to practice much more than the above.
They pretty much want to give you the skills needed to get help and get back on the ground if you find yourself in a bad situation. And to not overreact and stall or spin yourself into the ground because you didn't trust the instruments.
With that said, there isn't such a thing as knowing too much about flying. But if your aircraft isn't IFR equipped (and lots of rentals aren't), you won't be able to practice much more than the above.
Re: never stopping to learn, when I was meeting people at my local flying club, the 89-year old Chief Flight Instructor Emeritus welcomed me and showed me around. We were chatting about flying, and the man's been flying for literally 70 years starting when he was 17 for agriculture. He said he felt it was a great thing to spend a life doing and kept referring to himself as being "still a student".
He was unfortunately killed in a car accident a few months later, but his humility left an impact on me.
He was unfortunately killed in a car accident a few months later, but his humility left an impact on me.
Watching anime; playing Touhou and racing games.
Hoppy Beer and Golf (preferably together)
Weightlifting, beer, cooking, baseball
fishing, free diving, building bicycles, cycling, tramping (hiking, not standing on corners waiting for a 'ride'), music (keys/bass), reading, gardening, family, travel, cooking, eating.
I'd like to do more drawing, but I can't say I actually do it very often.
I'd like to do more drawing, but I can't say I actually do it very often.
Miniature Wargaming. Jazz Guitar.
Film making and film direction.
Bridge, boggle, and foosball. Things that are both hacker and beer friendly.
I'd like to give a plug for playing bridge. It is the best card game there is. Texas Hold 'Em : Checkers :: Bridge : Chess.
It can be a sociable game and yet it can also be a game that holds you interest as you try to achieve perfection.
To anyone who wants to get started there is a bit of learning curve. There are good guides online, computer games to help practice with (Bridge Baron is good and is even available for the iPhone), and there are local clubs that would love to see you come out (check out ACBL).
(Boggle and foosball also rock.)
It can be a sociable game and yet it can also be a game that holds you interest as you try to achieve perfection.
To anyone who wants to get started there is a bit of learning curve. There are good guides online, computer games to help practice with (Bridge Baron is good and is even available for the iPhone), and there are local clubs that would love to see you come out (check out ACBL).
(Boggle and foosball also rock.)
music, books and girls occupy most of my time
Kiteboarding, snowboarding, beach volleyball.
Photography and boardgames.
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coaching girls volleyball
And I guess I can start: mine are rock climbing, flying single engine planes (hoping to get into gliders) which is currently on break, and neuroscience (at an extremely amateur level). If anyone wants to get an introduction to climbing and are in the DC, Philly or NY area, I'd love to show you the ropes (har har).
> ...show you the ropes
Along those lines, Shibari. It's a great way to meet girls.
Along those lines, Shibari. It's a great way to meet girls.
If you don't know what Shibari is, don't try looking it up on Wikipedia at work. Do it when you get home.
To save me the hours and hours of curiosity, does someone want to give a brief and work-safe summary of what this particular activity is?
Dude. Some of us are at work.
What are your hobbies and interests?
And I don't just mean things directly related to HN.
edit: Hm, if you want to share these hobbies and introduce others, perhaps include your geographical location?