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cjsaltlake
·2 mesi fa·discuss
Normal people definitely will not benefit from this by default.
cjsaltlake
·3 mesi fa·discuss
SWE-bench was created to replace olympiad coding benchmarks. I think past olympiad coding benchmarks were much worse representative of real-world coding than something like SWE-bench, which is derived from real units of labor.

Further, olympiad style benchmarks are arguably easier to contaminate / memorize unless you refresh it regularly; but that goes for SWE-bench too.
cjsaltlake
·3 mesi fa·discuss
But, that's an enormous source of coding productivity, and it's why Anthropic is worth billions... The reason SWE-bench has been so successful and useful for coding is that software engineering has a ton of tradition and infrastructure for making and using automated tests.
cjsaltlake
·3 mesi fa·discuss
code clash I think would be quite hard to game or contaminate unintentionally; considering that models need to compete against one another
cjsaltlake
·3 mesi fa·discuss
I suggest reading the Mythos report's discussion on SWE-bench and contamination. I think it's fairly convincing that you can account for contamination and still trust SWE-bench numbers on models that aren't over-optimized for it.
cjsaltlake
·3 mesi fa·discuss
If you read the mythos report, in which they discuss and account for contamination substantially, it still suggests that performance on SWE-bench verified is meaningful. Benchmarks, including SWE-bench can absolutely be gamed, but if you're not explicitly benchmaxxing, improving on SWE-bench still measures model improvements, at least up to the level of Mythos.
cjsaltlake
·3 mesi fa·discuss
Labor replacing devices means nobody works in those fields anymore. If AI can do this for every field, nearly no one will need to work in any field. We'll have a giant fully automated resource-extraction machine.
cjsaltlake
·10 mesi fa·discuss
We absolutely did not.
cjsaltlake
·10 mesi fa·discuss
I'm also on the SWE-bench team. This was simply a classic bug. We had code before that we believed was sufficient to hide / remove future GitHub history and it turns out it was not. We've patched it.
cjsaltlake
·7 anni fa·discuss
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