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Winter & Cold Weather EV Range Loss in 7,000 Cars

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182 points·by clouddrover·4 anni fa·319 comments

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clouddrover
·3 anni fa·discuss
Here's a Tesla ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfMtONBK8dY
clouddrover
·3 anni fa·discuss
It certainly proves that the whole situation is intentional. Here's what Paul Haddad (Tweetbot developer) says about the new keys failing:

https://tapbots.social/@paul/109695822047176004
clouddrover
·3 anni fa·discuss
Tweetbot partially works because they're using new API keys:

https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/15/23556359/tweetbot-twitter...

It's a temporary workaround at best. The new API access is rate limited and Tweetbot will likely be banned again.
clouddrover
·4 anni fa·discuss
> In day trafic it's probably much faster than the Ami

No way, man. The Ami has flames on the side:

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/weird/ha-check-out-citroens...

And does your e-bike strike fear in the hearts of criminals everywhere?

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/citroen-ami-now-po...

I think not.
clouddrover
·4 anni fa·discuss
> Why would you let your competitor who are barely trying to deliver EVs freeload on it?

This is such strange thinking. It's not like Tesla will give away free charging. The reality is more EVs using your chargers means more revenue. High utilization is better than low utilization. But you won't listen to me about it, so listen to Tesla instead:

https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/28/22596337/tesla-supercharg...

This is what Tesla is already doing in Europe. It's easy in Europe because Europe has a common charging standard in CCS Type 2 Combo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y33AArvMUQ

A big benefit of CCS for Tesla owners is that they can easily switch to other charging networks when Tesla's network is uncompetitive:

https://www.electrive.com/2022/11/23/tesla-reduces-superchar...

The sad thing for North America is that it looks like Tesla will take the extremely cynical approach of allowing low volume manufacturers (like Aptera) to use Tesla's chargers if they adopt Tesla's plug. Hence the recent announcement of Tesla's plug supposedly being "open" and a "standard" now (as opposed to Tesla's previous faux openness):

https://www.tesla.com/blog/opening-north-american-charging-s...

Tesla believes that having the chargers support more than one manufacturer in this way will qualify Tesla chargers for US government subsidies. Tesla wants public funds, but doesn't want to provide public infrastructure by using CCS Type 1 Combo.

Maybe they'll allow other EVs to charge using a dongle, maybe they won't. But having to carry around a dongle merely to charge your car is just dumb. One more thing to buy, one more thing to lose, one more thing to break. Europe shows it doesn't need to be that way.

Closed, incompatible charging infrastructure makes EVs worse than ICE vehicles. You can fuel your ICE vehicle at any fueling station and you should be able to charge your EV at any charging station. Anything less is backward, primitive, and underdeveloped.
clouddrover
·4 anni fa·discuss
> the only results I get on google by searching for that quote are your comments on HN

It's interesting how Google narrows your world view.

> If the Tesla website indeed says it (which I am yet to find)

Here you go:

https://www.tesla.com/blog/introducing-software-version-10-0

> I would write it off as just future-promise-marketing

No, it's just lies and advertising.
clouddrover
·7 anni fa·discuss
The glass fractured pretty easily. The demonstration didn't go as planned:

https://youtu.be/m7atGkba-Z8?t=75

So maybe that means it's not so hard to get into if needed.