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Show HN: Webctl – Browser automation for agents based on CLI instead of MCP

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134 points·by cosinusalpha·6 mesi fa·38 comments

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cosinusalpha
·6 mesi fa·discuss
Do you experience any context pollution with that approach?
cosinusalpha
·6 mesi fa·discuss
Yes, you can create isolated environments using the "--session NAME" flag.

It isolates cookies and local storage for that specific run. Since it's a V1 release, there might be some edge cases in the session isolation - if you hit any, please open an issue!
cosinusalpha
·6 mesi fa·discuss
Thanks!

I actually tried a raw HTML when I was exploring solutions. It worked for "one-off" tasks, but I ran into major issues with replayability on modern SPAs.

In React apps, the raw DOM structure and auto-generated IDs shift so frequently that a script generated from "Raw HTML" often breaks 10 minutes later. I found ARIA/semantics to be the only stable contract that persists across re-renders.

You mentioned the raw HTML approach is "expensive". Did you feed the full HTML into the context, or did you create a BS4 "tool" for the LLM to query the raw HTML dynamically?
cosinusalpha
·6 mesi fa·discuss
I actually think the CLI approach helps with those boundaries. Because webctl commands are discrete and pipeable (e.g. webctl snapshot | llm | webctl click), the "authority" is reset at every step of the pipeline. It feels easier to audit a text stream of commands than a socket connection that might be accumulating invisible context.
cosinusalpha
·6 mesi fa·discuss
Thanks! To clarify: webctl allows you to manually interact with the browser window at any time. It even returns "manual interaction" breakpoints to stdout if it detects an SSO/login wall.

But I agree, attaching to the OS "daily driver" instance specifically would be a nice addition.
cosinusalpha
·6 mesi fa·discuss
I am also not sure if MCP will eventually be fixed to allow more control over context, or if the CLI approach really is the future for Agentic AI.

Nevertheless, I prefer the CLI for other reasons: it is built for humans and is much easier to debug.
cosinusalpha
·6 mesi fa·discuss
A background daemon holds the session state between different CLI calls. This daemon is started automatically on the first webctl call and auto-closes after a timeout period of inactivity to save resources.
cosinusalpha
·6 mesi fa·discuss
I don't have an objective benchmark yet. I tried several existing solutions, especially the MCP servers for browser automation, and none of them were able to reproducibly solve my specific task.

An objective benchmark is a great idea, especially to compare webctl against other similar CLI-based tools. I'll definitely look into how to set that up.
cosinusalpha
·6 mesi fa·discuss
To be honest, I hadn't seen that one yet!

The main difference is likely the targeting philosophy. webctl relies heavily on ARIA roles/semantics (e.g. role=button name="Save") rather than injected IDs or CSS selectors. I find this makes the automation much more robust to UI changes.

Also, I went with Python for V1 simply for iteration speed and ecosystem integration. I'd love to rewrite in Rust eventually, but Python was the most efficient way to get a stable tool working for my specific use case.