lesto · HackerTrans

As EUropean living in a different country for work, is not that easy at all. Try to do your taxes in Swedish or German or French.. Or try to have a social life with people that while could speak English will probably switch to their own language when in more than 2-3 person. Yes of course you can learn the language, but dont think you can be proficient in a couple of year, especially if working 40h/week, and still you will be proficient in a country at max

lesto

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there is a reason if pretty much all distribution follow this approach :)

lesto

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> a traditionally distro wouldn't even bother packaging any of this stuff or engage at all.

unfortunately the library author made a PR to Home Assistant, a program that is packaged in many distro; all those distro will add his package. see https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/51645

lesto

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the author of the lib pushed the code by a PR to Home Assistant, a project that is packaged by multiple distribution, including ubuntu, fedora, arch and more, all of which will repackage the library. The author should ask for removal from HA, not going to all packager for all distro requiring to be removed

lesto

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> You're entitled to nothing when authors write FOSS. They provide it as-is. Take it or leave it. No one is obligated to take support harassment.

the author of the lib literally pushed it to Home Assistant, so he gave it to a relatively famous project that is present in a lot of distro and Snapstore. Pushing to such project is a guarantee that your code will be repackaged. He could say it was a misunderstanding and require to be remove from HA, but to go to a project that uses the project that you PR your code into? eh. We have licensing for this reason and I am quite sure if frenck had choose the correct license/limitation from the beginning, it would have never been accepted into HA and this whole problem would have been avoided

> Tons of FOSS projects do not support alternative distributions. In fact, implicitly, virtually no one does. Most authors publish software with the expectation you'll use their distribution channels.

I don't think this is true, and the fact that already author's libs had been already packaged in Gentoo, Fedora and possibly more distro (and he said he will request to remove them) show how quickly alternative and well used channel can and will pick them up if not specified in your license. Especially if the project you are contributing is ALREADY packaged in different disto.

source: https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/51645

lesto

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> Pinning every Python dependency instead of fetching HEAD is how you get local control and security!

yes it is? they make sure the user get a specific version that is (hopefully) vetted and know as working properly; this is much safer than pulling HEAD for a 3th party repo. As long as the libs are updated regularly and when security issue are found, I see no problem with this approach

> he has the right to transitively make Home Assistant un-packagable on NixOS?

Pretty sure a custom license is not compatible with the Apache 2 license of "Home Assistant"; also as the code is in use by a third party, the author should not be able to retroactively change license, only next releases. Probably will be forked or removed depending on the specific of the case and of the code.

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