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Show HN: Chunk sidecars for validating agent-generated code before pushing to CI

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1 points·by olafmol·2 mesi fa·2 comments

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olafmol
·ieri·discuss
Now it's smartphones and devices, but in the past it was work. Personally I think these days kids get a lot more attention from their parents than anytime in the past. Even so much that it can be irritating/damaging (parents being "friends/playmates" instead of parents).
olafmol
·mese scorso·discuss
This little line from the article scares me: "but a software engineer would iron out the remaining potential bugs that I could not find quickly"

Every sw dev knows this is a very dangerous, and unrealistic, assumption.
olafmol
·2 mesi fa·discuss
Phew, was this a test? ;P

Tnx for checking, and reconfirming!
olafmol
·2 mesi fa·discuss
This is exactly the reason why I like to work with local models on a regular specced machine. The fact that the agent moves slower allows me to stay in the loop much better, compared to skimming through a huge amount of generated content and data and then going to the end really fast to make sense of it all, in the interest of time (and thus losing track and quality). The fact that I can run it locally makes it (much) cheaper too.
olafmol
·2 mesi fa·discuss
An LLM should not "generate specs", a human should. The LLM can work from the specs. It can never infer meaning from a vague prompt. If so, it will start guessing. Every human that ever did functional specification or information analysis at some point knows this. Or has learned the hard way, something with assumptions and asses ;)
olafmol
·2 mesi fa·discuss
Gitea might be an option also.
olafmol
·2 mesi fa·discuss
Out of interest: what does "better AI integration" mean? Any specific functional or non-functional requirements?
olafmol
·2 mesi fa·discuss
Out of interest: what VCS where you using with CircleCI? (as CircleCI is VCS agnostic)
olafmol
·2 mesi fa·discuss
Correction: Gitlab is not Dutch. It has a Dutch co-founder, and was a B.V. for about one year before moving to the US and become an Inc. The original founder is from Ukraine.
olafmol
·4 mesi fa·discuss
Let engineers do Vibe-accounting because, AI.
olafmol
·5 mesi fa·discuss
Debug with SSH(1) is still one of our (CircleCI) most loved and praised features. I really believe that these little QoL features can make a world of difference for sw developers and engineers, and this stays a strong focus for us.

1: https://circleci.com/docs/guides/execution-managed/ssh-acces...

(Disclaimer: i work at CircleCI)
olafmol
·5 mesi fa·discuss
This is exactly what my team told me when they switched from Concourse CI to CircleCI. I was surprised, this wasn't really discussed, but the pressure on the team to deliver features was increasing, and they were struggling to much with all the tooling instead of delivering functionality. So they deciced to switch to something not so sexy but dependable and stable. Funny thing, about 1 year later we got acquired by CircleCI :)

I like to compare CircleCI to a Volvo, not the most sexy thing in the world, but when you need something dependable that gets the job done and helps you to focus on what really matters, getting from A to B, it's one of the bettter choices.

(disclaimer, i'm still with CircleCI)
olafmol
·5 mesi fa·discuss
I think we (CircleCI) are doing quite well: https://status.circleci.com/
olafmol
·5 mesi fa·discuss
It’s open source right? You know what to do ;)
olafmol
·5 mesi fa·discuss
Almost nothing i assume. NI really lost the plot several years ago when the original founders left the company. Crappy after-sales support, lack of product vision and corresponding crappy execution, and a ton of technical debt all over their product-range. Plus competitors made better/right moves, came alongside, and then moved faster and better, leaving NI in the dust. It's sad to see a company that once was leading in several categories now in this state.
olafmol
·6 mesi fa·discuss
We (CircleCI) are still there, and doing just fine :) Out of interest, what are you currently missing and what would those "essential" V2 features be? tnx for sharing your thoughts!
olafmol
·6 mesi fa·discuss
I'd like to point out that CircleCI is typically faster (and more consistent) than GH Actions, and also offers a free tier (with more free build credits for opensource projects: https://circleci.com/open-source/)

Personally I believe that GH Actions' adoption was mostly a case of "we already use github as our VCS, so we get Actions for free with our MS licenses" combined with "hey, we can easily use all those Actions that people put online" (with all the security and compliancy issues that come with such a YOLO mindset lol)

(Disclaimer: i work for CircleCI)
olafmol
·7 mesi fa·discuss
It's not obfuscated. The free plan gives you a max of 5 concurrent self-hosted runners. If you need more you can upgrade your plan: https://circleci.com/pricing/#comparison-table

There simply is no free lunch, somewhere someone needs to spend effort and time on managing the orchestration layer for the runners, and there is also network traffic and storage in play that costs money. If you need a future-proof CI/CD platform, it takes some investment. I agree that the Github "pay per minute" approach doesn't feel right, most people would probably find a "pay per orchestration job" or something more acceptable.

Anyway, there are alternatives out there :)
olafmol
·7 mesi fa·discuss
Agreed that caching needs (and can be, and will be) improved.
olafmol
·7 mesi fa·discuss
CircleCI does only charge for self-hosted runners generated egress and/or artifact storage:

"Any Network Egress to CircleCI will be charged. At this current time, this includes CircleCI Caches, Workspaces, and Artifacts and will be charged at the normal rate according to your Usage Controls.

The only network traffic that will result in billing is accrued through restoring caches and workspaces, and downloading artifacts to self-hosted runners. Retention of artifacts, workspace, and cache objects will result in billing for storage usage.

Since your builds will not be running on CircleCI's Infrastructure, you will not be charged compute credits"

https://support.circleci.com/hc/en-us/articles/2064321965685...

I think that's fair. In my personal opinion most people started using GitHub Actions because it “came for free with the VCS and/or our MS contract” and it was “good enough for the job”. Now might be a good time to look around at the alternatives again. There is a reason that f.e. CircleCI is doing fully focused CI/CD for 10+ years and is still going strong. Plenty of businesses don’t want to put all their eggs in one (MS) basket, for all kinds of reasons. I guess today one of these reasons became obvious.

Disclaimer: I work at CircleCI.