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platypi.empla.io
2 points·by pokot0·5 mesi fa·3 comments

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pokot0
·11 giorni fa·discuss
Isn't building a 90% frontier model relatively cheap for EU?

I feel like EU could start a company, start from available open weight models, feed 2bln a year into it (1% of the EU budget) and make a compelling almost SOTA model for the EU market. This company could partner with datacenter providers and sell it hosted in the EU or somewhere else with EU protection terms. The budget for this company would easily double with the added revenues and you are creating an ecosystem of providers that can compete with US big-techs and have a 500 million people market that can't wait to ditch US companies for them, given the current mood.

The model can be open weight and it's an easy way to compound the efforts we are seeing in China without even having to talk to each other. Maybe there is a way to make it work not open weights but I am not sure how would that work.

These are those kind of decisions that seem such no brainers to me, which probably means I am completely out of touch with reality.
pokot0
·15 giorni fa·discuss
actually you can buy inference on third party providers that serve deepseek v4 pro with zero data retention (ZDR).
pokot0
·15 giorni fa·discuss
I am wondering if this is why they can offer their pro model at ~1/4th of the price compared to the other providers offering the same model, and if other providers will be able to do the same in a short timeframe.
pokot0
·2 mesi fa·discuss
Internet is more and more becoming a commercialization platform. If you are selling something on your website, you still want Google (or ChatGPT for that matters) to expose customers to your product. The gate is the actual delivery of the product is behind a purchase/signup. Google and others want to control the entire customer journey, to the point the your website is simply a way to pass metadata to them. They are actually achieving this!

this kills the entire internet vibe of the 90s, early 2k
pokot0
·2 mesi fa·discuss
Honestly UX became irrelevant in the last years (infra as code) and even more in the last year (coding agents). What you need is well structured API and a CLI that does not limit you. You can call it UX if you want, but the skillset is different.

When I started my latest project my first rule was: I never have to login to AWS console. I didn’t achieve ‘never’ but I am pretty close and the experience is a lot better
pokot0
·3 mesi fa·discuss
Question. How does it work if I own a repository (opt out, don't use copilot) and I give access to someone else (use is opted in and uses copilot). Do you train on his submissions of my code? How can you know what that he has the right to share the code with you for training?
pokot0
·4 mesi fa·discuss
while I agree, I understood this is only when you use copilot? if not, their communication is very misleading
pokot0
·4 mesi fa·discuss
exactly what I do. they are still annoying because providers want to me to be engaged on their terms and keep pushing these features and don’t offer a broad “never use bluetooth on any website ever” kind of option. Magic of KPIs

anyway the point here is that I don’t really care if Safari is behind in support. The article was about blaming Safari for being behind.
pokot0
·4 mesi fa·discuss
You might want your browser to do Bluetooth, NFC, Background stuff, Face Detection but I don't.

I like to use Apple products for things that are commodities to me because I am not gonna look into the details of those and when I do Apple reasoning often make sense to me (just like this list).

There is a lot more we can criticize about these big tech corps (including Apple) than a product decision for a company that is known for making polarizing decisions on behalf of their customers. If people buy it... they must like it, no?
pokot0
·4 mesi fa·discuss
You guys probably already know but I saw a live demo of something very similar from these guys:

https://bright.ai/autonomous-inspection/

definitely where we want to be as a society! Keep up!
pokot0
·4 mesi fa·discuss
My question is: is safer than average human good enough?

When I drive I have the option to choose to be safe or not. When a computer drives I lose that option. So for 49% of the people, safer than the average human is less safe than before.

I think we need to reach "Safer than the safest 10% of humans".

Also these reports should be done by a government agency.
pokot0
·5 mesi fa·discuss
Hi! Yes, the premise is exactly to review how 'stable' agents would be if left unsupervised in an end-2-end scenario.

But this is probably unrealistic now, hence the experiment. I think people will be less skeptical the more they interact with these kind of entities and slowly develop trust.

That's why we developed agents with an identity and primarily around email in order to 'plug' them into company processes slowly and naturally. That's the core idea of the main project this experiment spawn off of.
pokot0
·5 mesi fa·discuss
Hi HN,

I’m running a public experiment in multi-agent coordination: can a small team of independent AI employees collaborate toward a shared objective using the same tools regular companies already use?

In this experiment, each AI employee has a specific identity (role, personality, scope, and permissions) and their own email address and access to corporate tools. They coordinate primarily over email and a shared Google Sheet, plus they connect to the paper brokerage account (I use Alpaca Markets).

Platypi Capital is the “sandbox”: the team runs a paper trading portfolio. The employees research, debate, propose trades and strategies, do risk checks, and execute trades (paper money) as a coordinated workflow, then publish positions/orders/performance. This is completely transparent and realtime on the website.

This is not a real fund. This is an experiment on how AIs coordinate together. Trades are executed with paper money on a simulated brokerage account, and nothing here is financial advice. This is part of a broader effort I’m working on to build an “AI employees” product.

I would love to get the HN crowd feedback! :)

Link: https://platypi.empla.io

Thanks!
pokot0
·5 mesi fa·discuss
It's a European (maybe rest of the world) thing.

It's interesting how different dishwashers are in US and Europe. Two main things for me:

- Salt: European dishwashers have embedded water softeners and you add salt once in a while. Only super high end ones have it in US.

- Water heater: European dishwasher expect to receive cold water and they heat it internally; US ones expect hot water and only partially boost the temperature (sometimes). That's why you have to run hot water before starting the dishwasher

Always wondered how we ended up like this...
pokot0
·5 mesi fa·discuss
Can’t you heat exchange inside the satellite, and make one part of the satellite incredibly hot so that it radiates a lot and dissipates.

This is just a question. I have no expertise at all with this.
pokot0
·6 mesi fa·discuss
I don't think that kind of difference in benchmarks has any meaning at all. Your agentic coding tool and the task you are working on introduce a lot more "noise" than that small delta.

Also consider they are all overfitting on the benchmark itself so there might be that as well (which can go in either directions)

I consider the top models practically identical for coding applications (just personal experience with heavy use of both GPT5.2 and Opus 4.5).

Excited to see how this model compares in real applications. It's 1/5th of the price of top models!!
pokot0
·6 mesi fa·discuss
fyi: it does not build for me from the source code.

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pokot0
·8 mesi fa·discuss
I think you misunderstood him for me. Regardless, giving up is not something I mentioned. You guys just inferred it. I just feel we need to approach the battle very differently. What we have been doing it's not working.
pokot0
·8 mesi fa·discuss
Privacy for me is not that important. I have nothing to hide, nothing I am ashamed of. For me it's more of a way of protecting from abuse that a need of its own. I realize it's just me and I do advocate for privacy, but if you look around: we lost. Our data is everywhere and there are no consequences whatsoever. PS: I did mention in my original comment that Google and many others already send drones with cameras to spy on your backyard and that is considered "fine". I am not inviting them to come to your house; they are already doing it. Just check Google Maps.
pokot0
·8 mesi fa·discuss
Honestly I think privacy is lost. Regardless of what side you were (big fan of privacy here) I feel we have nothing to do but move on and think how to live in a world without privacy.

I never wanted privacy anyway: I wanted no discrimination, inclusion, healthy democracy, etc, etc.

Privacy has always been a tool for me.

At this point, selective privacy like we are experiencing today (we cannot know what’s in the epstein files, but google can send a drone and look into my backyard) serves none of the things I am interested in!