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robmen
·5 anni fa·discuss
Once again, someone else is far more pithy than I. +1
robmen
·5 anni fa·discuss
The title came from a comment from one of the maintainers of the WiX Toolset. I called the initial missteps a "maintainer kerfuffle" and he responded, "As long as it doesn't turn into a brouhaha".

Now that I think about it, I didn't write the blog post for the uninitiated. If you didn't understand what was going on, that was fine, it was content for you.

I don't know how I ended up here on Hacker News. :)
robmen
·5 anni fa·discuss
As far as I can tell, Jon and Scott are Microsoft dev evangelists. It really isn't their place to step into .NET Foundation issues.

It might be even more weird if they did try weigh in.
robmen
·5 anni fa·discuss
Yes but I never had the copyright in the first place. This isn't about the copyright. I know I don't own it. This is about control of the project.
robmen
·5 anni fa·discuss
You should raise that feature request with GitHub. It's a good idea.
robmen
·5 anni fa·discuss
Meh. Other people here have pointed out it sends email to the people in the GitHub Enterprise. So, they probably missed a place to add auditing.

To that point, I've had GitHub people tell me they never imagined the feature I used to get out of GitHub Enterprise to be used that way. I got lots of emails (since I owned the target organization) but maybe the GitHub Enterprise did not?
robmen
·5 anni fa·discuss
Hah, hah, hah, that's actually pretty good.
robmen
·5 anni fa·discuss
No.
robmen
·5 anni fa·discuss
Rodney is closer to many things than I but my experience shows these are the root issues:

> does too little to help its member projects, and lacks a strong sense of mission or purpose.

That's on the .NET Foundation, not Microsoft.
robmen
·5 anni fa·discuss
Sure but I'm most interested in the project as a whole. And:

> And there are advantages to a legally well protected entity holding the copyright.
robmen
·5 anni fa·discuss
I might agree with parts of what you are saying but when the channel to communicate back to the "powers that be" is broken and you face (what feels like) an existential threat, the public forum is an enticing, sometimes effective but very messy option.
robmen
·5 anni fa·discuss
You are exactly correct here. This isn't about Microsoft or GitHub. It is solely about the .NET Foundation's actions.
robmen
·5 anni fa·discuss
This may have nailed the issue most closely yet.

It took you a lot fewer words than me too. :)
robmen
·5 anni fa·discuss
Something is really wrong right now that's why they might be meeting every day.

Your experience with the Eclipse Foundation is very different from how the .NET Foundation has interacted. On top of that, communication has been very poor for a long time. I believe those two differences are at or near the root of all of these issues.
robmen
·5 anni fa·discuss
No worries. I disagree with a couple parts of your position but that doesn't mean you are wrong. :)

I also happen to agree with the bulk of it.
robmen
·5 anni fa·discuss
Those are all possible futures.
robmen
·5 anni fa·discuss
Because they are separate. Have you wanted the .NET Foundation and Microsoft interact?
robmen
·5 anni fa·discuss
You are exactly correct. It isn't necessary to drag GitHub or Microsoft into the conversation.

They aren't involved in this situation.
robmen
·5 anni fa·discuss
Not in my case. The article explains how the copyright transfer was executed.
robmen
·5 anni fa·discuss
What? Code of Conduct says stuff like, don't be mean to other people. It's a lot like: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html