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robynsmith
·5 anni fa·discuss
Great topic.

Yes/no. It depends. Context is king.

If we're talking VP/C-suite level compensation, probably not.

If we're talking engineering manager / director level, the answer is likely yes.

The issue is, the higher up you go, the less roles there are (for either manager or dev). It's usually way easier to jump from dev to manager than from dev to staff/principal engineer. There is also likely a cycle of having to prove yourself at new companies (often staff roles are promoted from within), but I am seeing more and more staff roles on job boards.

It's actually a great career move to jump into management for a period of time, pick up the skills, then jump back to dev. It would make your impact even higher once you become a staff engineer.

I don't know how useful this is. But if you love to code and don't want to manage people, it's a solid route.

If you want fast compensation increases in the short term, go for the management route.

Edit:

I chose the management route because I like support, basically. Helping people, solving problems, and seeing people grow is my favourite thing. You can do this as a dev, but I found that I enjoy this stuff more than coding.

I also love systems thinking (computers, people, process). So it's a good fit for me :)
robynsmith
·5 anni fa·discuss
A note from a recent Engineering Manager:

I think in general, the management career path can lead to faster short-term gains in terms of career and compensation, but the most senior devs almost always have more interesting work, autonomy, and better compensation (EM's often make less than say, Staff/Principal devs).

I think "impact" is how you level up in either path:

The more senior you are, the more your work impacts larger parts of the organization. As a manager, you level up by running a team, then by running multiple teams, etc. You're a coach who's always helping your team grow & removing impediments to their work.

As a dev, there are multiple options:

- Evaluation of technologies

- Help setting best practices

- Mentoring the team / leveling up the technical skills of others

- Pair programming / answering questions / supporting team members

- Being involved in projects early on in their inception

- "Just being a solid contributor" on critical projects that need a particular level of quality or speed

For better or for worse, I don't think you can get to the most senior levels by "just putting your head down and coding". Both as a maker or a manager, you're going to have to learn the people/organization side to some extent.

The advantage of the technical route is it will often lead to more interesting projects and you still get to code! :)
robynsmith
·6 anni fa·discuss
Thanks for the recommendations!
robynsmith
·6 anni fa·discuss
Ah interesting.

I think I might just be idealistic and having thought about it this way. Thanks for the context.
robynsmith
·6 anni fa·discuss
Source?

I'm a relatively new engineering manager in an older company in Canada (turning itself into fin/insurance tech), and a big part of my role has been about breaking down silos.

The silos where created at a time when being really efficient at 'your piece' was what the system rewarded, whereas now we want to be efficient at shipping code, which means efficient value streams (from inception to production)...which has basically meant many rounds of silo deconstruction.

But I'd be VERY curious about why silos get built in the first place & what incentives are in place to make this happen...and why this is bad. To be honest, maybe I'm just idealistic, but I see silo building as not desirable.
robynsmith
·6 anni fa·discuss
Privacy and long term support converted me from Android to iOS in 2019.

I’d say the narrative is working :)

Try and find an alternative device that has the same level of privacy and updates for 5 years.

You can do it if you flash a rom on your android device - but that’s not currently realistic for most of the current user base.
robynsmith
·6 anni fa·discuss
Agreed.

This is becoming a pet peeve of mine. When I run into my limit I just skip the read or find a way around it :)

Wish people would just stop posting to or linking to medium.