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tripue
·2 anni fa·discuss
We made it using framer, will take a look how to optimize that, thanks for the feedback!
tripue
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We don’t manage anything else than transactional messages at the moment.

Do you have a marketing use case ? If so I would be eager to understand your main pain points.
tripue
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We can handle any kind of transactional message and take care of registration on your behalf. Happy to chat further if this interesting for you.
tripue
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Hey! We might be able to help, built prelude.so for exactly that reason and many other (fraud prevention, multi-routing...). We had to built an internal solution for this back at Zenly which pushed us to create this tool!

What is your main use case?
tripue
·2 anni fa·discuss
Hey! We built prelude.so for exactly that reason and many other (fraud prevention, multi-routing...). We had to built an internal solution for this back at Zenly which pushed us to create this tool!
tripue
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All those strategies are a great first layer of protection, we see however of tool fraud attacks in which these protections don’t suffice, it could be part of those fraudsters business model to even by-pass capcha.

Seams like twilio is now offering some kind of protection but it doesn’t comes free.

We built ding.live for that reason, a different pricing in which we don’t rely on overselling the sms price so we don’t have to look for extra margin when less are sent due to better fraud protection.
tripue
·3 anni fa·discuss
I don't know about Plivo but if you're looking to do phone number verification we built a system for this https://www.ding.live/ with goal of improving conversion while reducing cost you can sign up there directly https://app.ding.live/sign-up.

I would be happy to understand more about what you're trying to solve don't hesitate to reach out to my email.
tripue
·3 anni fa·discuss
The article mention sms tool fraud as the biggest increase.. We faced the same problem at Zenly and had to build our own anti-spam strategies to prevent it. We used multiple providers to improve our conversion rate and reduce cost. We are now building this as a service https://www.ding.live/ and are seeing huge improvements for our customers in term of cost savings and conversion rate.
tripue
·3 anni fa·discuss
Reducing cost can be difficult in this space, we've been working on this for a while at Ding by leveraging different route and channel, maybe we can help.

Don't hesitate to ping me directly [email protected]
tripue
·3 anni fa·discuss
Well phone number can always be re attributed to a real user so it’s rare that a deny list is the only indicator used to prevent fraud, at least that’s not how our antispam works at https://ding.live :)
tripue
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They often take a share of the revenue from those attacks through iprn number or other fraud schemes
tripue
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Yes, it's hard to rely on delivery report, we don't rely on this to evaluate the conversion on a given route.

Thanks for sharing the testing tools super helpful !
tripue
·3 anni fa·discuss
We use a combinaison of route that are are evaluated in real-time for their cost to conversion ratio. Our customers have the option to choose only « direct routes » if needed but those strategies are use at scale by players like Facebook, TikTok or Google we’re just making sure our customer have all the options, visibility and control on their conversion rate/price tradeoff. Another strategy that allows to lower cost significantly is the use of alternative channel when available and competitive : Google RBM, WhatsApp, Viber, line.. Last but not least we don’t do any margin on the sms price so we bill back exactly what we pay for and negotiate with aggregated volumes.
tripue
·3 anni fa·discuss
We faced the same problem at Zenly and had to build our own anti-spam strategies to prevent it. We used multiple providers to improve our conversion rate and reduce cost. We are now building this as a service https://www.ding.live/ and are seeing huge improvements for our first customers in term of cost savings and conversion rate. Feel free to reach out if it could be any interest to you [email protected].