A better iPad keyboard(rosscarter.com)
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A better iPad keyboard
http://rosscarter.com/2010/320.html
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In this new scheme I'd be learning a new movement for each capitalization and special character. Seems like it will be a while before I'd become nearly as proficient as I am now (65wpm).
(Not so) Breaking news: New things take some getting used to.
If you really managed to memorize three separate keyboards (regular, numeric, symbols) and all of the tap/hold options they have, props to you. But, memorizing three keyboards isn't something I've managed to do -- even after using iOS pretty much since the original iPhone first came out. But, I'd personally rather just have it all right there on screen, without having to hunt a key down.
(Not so) Breaking news: New things take some getting used to.
If you really managed to memorize three separate keyboards (regular, numeric, symbols) and all of the tap/hold options they have, props to you. But, memorizing three keyboards isn't something I've managed to do -- even after using iOS pretty much since the original iPhone first came out. But, I'd personally rather just have it all right there on screen, without having to hunt a key down.
I think we are talking about different use cases.
I'm coming from the perspective that you shouldn't be looking at the keyboard when you type- virtual or not. Instead you are relying on robotic muscle memory to generate a specific character.
So in my view there's a lot more new stuff to get used to in the author's proposed scheme. We would be memorizing a distinct set of finger motions for every distinct symbol as opposed to a fixed set of taps to certain positions on the keyboard - some with one or more preceding modifier keys (that are always at the same keyboard position).
I'm coming from the perspective that you shouldn't be looking at the keyboard when you type- virtual or not. Instead you are relying on robotic muscle memory to generate a specific character.
So in my view there's a lot more new stuff to get used to in the author's proposed scheme. We would be memorizing a distinct set of finger motions for every distinct symbol as opposed to a fixed set of taps to certain positions on the keyboard - some with one or more preceding modifier keys (that are always at the same keyboard position).
I'm coming from the perspective of the iPad is right in front of my face when I'm typing and how can I not look at the iPad when using it?
Apple took advantage of the iPhone to rearrange some parts of the keyboard. Ross is taking advantage of the larger key size on the iPad to do the same and (as far as I can tell) to scale back from having to memorize three different keyboards (thats not including the non-standard-but-still-available Email, URL, etc keyboard).
And honestly? It sounds like you don't want to have to learn something new again. Which is fine. But it doesn't make Ross's keyboard bad in any way, like you're claiming.
Apple took advantage of the iPhone to rearrange some parts of the keyboard. Ross is taking advantage of the larger key size on the iPad to do the same and (as far as I can tell) to scale back from having to memorize three different keyboards (thats not including the non-standard-but-still-available Email, URL, etc keyboard).
And honestly? It sounds like you don't want to have to learn something new again. Which is fine. But it doesn't make Ross's keyboard bad in any way, like you're claiming.
It's best to look at the text you're generating. Not the keys you are pressing.
I would LOVE to try out the author's keyboard. It's great that someone is at least trying to push touch screen typing forward. I remain skeptical that this form of text input could be faster or safer for your wrists- but it COULD be more enjoyable to use for short typing sessions which is also important.
I would LOVE to try out the author's keyboard. It's great that someone is at least trying to push touch screen typing forward. I remain skeptical that this form of text input could be faster or safer for your wrists- but it COULD be more enjoyable to use for short typing sessions which is also important.
It's best to look at the text you're generating. Not the keys you are pressing.
I haven't been able to separate the two on the iPhone/iPad; they're both on the same screen and relate to what I'm doing at that exact instant.
I would LOVE to try out the author's keyboard.
If you like, email me your UDID and I'll email you back with the demo app the author provides. Or maybe a build of Mobile Colloquy (an IRC client) with this, if I have time to hack it together.
I haven't been able to separate the two on the iPhone/iPad; they're both on the same screen and relate to what I'm doing at that exact instant.
I would LOVE to try out the author's keyboard.
If you like, email me your UDID and I'll email you back with the demo app the author provides. Or maybe a build of Mobile Colloquy (an IRC client) with this, if I have time to hack it together.
> "But it doesn't make Ross's keyboard bad in any way"
Here's one way -- it's certainly bad to have UPPERcase be a DOWNward flick.
Perhaps he thought he wanted numbers above the lowercase letters on the top row to look something more like a real keyboard, but it's silly for the alphabet.
> "And honestly? It sounds like you don't want to have to learn something new again."
It seems this keyboard is chiefly for the sake of not learning any keyboard. Learn at least one, then complain about someone not wanting to learn another.
// I touch type qwerty, azerty, and qwertz. I've got nothing against learning punctuation on new layouts. If the goal is applying something new to make "hunting and pecking" easier, this system is great: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FITALY
Here's one way -- it's certainly bad to have UPPERcase be a DOWNward flick.
Perhaps he thought he wanted numbers above the lowercase letters on the top row to look something more like a real keyboard, but it's silly for the alphabet.
> "And honestly? It sounds like you don't want to have to learn something new again."
It seems this keyboard is chiefly for the sake of not learning any keyboard. Learn at least one, then complain about someone not wanting to learn another.
// I touch type qwerty, azerty, and qwertz. I've got nothing against learning punctuation on new layouts. If the goal is applying something new to make "hunting and pecking" easier, this system is great: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FITALY
It seems this keyboard is chiefly for the sake of not learning any keyboard. Learn at least one, then complain about someone not wanting to learn another.
Well, yes. But, you would have to unlearn the idea of switching between keyboards on the iPad to get used to flicking between keys ;)
Well, yes. But, you would have to unlearn the idea of switching between keyboards on the iPad to get used to flicking between keys ;)
He shouldn't have to learn something new. It's bad for business to tell potential users "You're just going to have to get used to our system".
Customers want a new tool/app/service to solve problems, not create new ones.
Customers want a new tool/app/service to solve problems, not create new ones.
I had the pleasure of having Ross show me his keyboard about a month back, at SecondConf. I really like the idea. It took a few minutes of getting used to, but, it works really well. And it'll be even better when it has all the little touches to pull it together (Gradients on press/in the direction thats being flicked, graphics for all the keys, etc. See the README).
If you don't know, Ross Carter makes Pagehand (http://pagehand.com) for Mac. Its a very nice text layout app that fills the gap of being somewhere between TextEdit and Pages.app. I don't know if he's porting it to iOS, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's thought a lot about it and the best way to enter text.
Anyway, this is progress. It's the first non-Apple keyboard for an iOS out there. It pushes iOS input forward into another direction (something that Apple really hasn't done much of, for US text input).
If you don't know, Ross Carter makes Pagehand (http://pagehand.com) for Mac. Its a very nice text layout app that fills the gap of being somewhere between TextEdit and Pages.app. I don't know if he's porting it to iOS, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's thought a lot about it and the best way to enter text.
Anyway, this is progress. It's the first non-Apple keyboard for an iOS out there. It pushes iOS input forward into another direction (something that Apple really hasn't done much of, for US text input).
The review of a hands-on user should be ranked above speculation by a competing dev team. Unfortunately, that relationship is currently reversed. No offense to the competitors.
I hate to be the one to point this out, but the keyboard on Windows Mobile has had something like this for a long time (drag up to shift, left to delete, right for space and down for enter). It makes typing on iOS devices feel really slow and laborious.
The flick-up on comma and period is a nice shortcut.
Here's another one that's helpful: If you want to type just one character that's on the numerical keyboard, don't just tap the ".?123" button, tap and hold then drag to the key you'd like to press. This selects that key, then immediately returns you to the alpha keyboard.
Here's another one that's helpful: If you want to type just one character that's on the numerical keyboard, don't just tap the ".?123" button, tap and hold then drag to the key you'd like to press. This selects that key, then immediately returns you to the alpha keyboard.
On my iPad, when I try to do this with the shift key, it seems to have trouble tracking where my finger slides. It only follows me when I'm moving really fast. As soon as I slow down, it gets stuck on whatever key I'm over. It doesn't do this with the .?123 key.
Should also mention, this works on any iOS device.
Slightly related: Japanese "Ten Key" keyboard[1] on iPhone did something similar to this. Keys are mapped to consonants, with each flick direction being vowels. Biggest caveat is that the learning curve is pretty high, since you have to remember which vowel goes into which direction.
Apple did not implement this keyboard on an iPad, though. I assume because it would be pretty awkward to use in a full-sized keyboard layout. (E.g. target for full two hands vs. thumb)
[1]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVy1p0v0Pow
Apple did not implement this keyboard on an iPad, though. I assume because it would be pretty awkward to use in a full-sized keyboard layout. (E.g. target for full two hands vs. thumb)
[1]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVy1p0v0Pow
You can't really see it in the video but if you click and hold a consonant, a popup shows you the 4 (other) vowel options. You can then flick after seeing the options. When used this way it is sort of like a training mode.
The main reason they can get away with this is because the consonants in the language are so regular. The only real exceptions are the single "n" sound and a few rarely used "y" consonants. It would be harder to do in english.
The main reason they can get away with this is because the consonants in the language are so regular. The only real exceptions are the single "n" sound and a few rarely used "y" consonants. It would be harder to do in english.
That's pretty darn clever! That's the only time I've seen a language that looked seriously type-able on such a small keyboard.
sirn is damn right about the learning curve, but once you get the hang of it (as I have), it's an absolute pleasure to type in Japanese.
So much so, that it makes you almost regret having to type English messages.
So much so, that it makes you almost regret having to type English messages.
Author seems to not realize that several keys show alternates when held.
I didn't realize that either! Although it just took me a while to find any that did, and even those that do are not very useful. For example round brackets, I cannot seem to hold down any key to get that character.
My biggest grips is 'n'. I keep conjoining words with n because it seems as though I hit that rather than space. Then autocorrect makes matters worse is that it figures it out and rather than breaking the words, it instead keeps the last word and drops the first. This is harder to spot when proofing than if it had just left the conjoined word alone.
I mainly use the blackberry for anything typing heavy.
My biggest grips is 'n'. I keep conjoining words with n because it seems as though I hit that rather than space. Then autocorrect makes matters worse is that it figures it out and rather than breaking the words, it instead keeps the last word and drops the first. This is harder to spot when proofing than if it had just left the conjoined word alone.
I mainly use the blackberry for anything typing heavy.
Years ago, I experimented with a speech synthesiser for the Commodore 64. You used it the typical Commodore way: open a channel to the device, print command codes to the channel. Something like OPEN 3,12,1: PRINT#3, "H0E1L0O3 W0E4R1L0D0";: CLOSE 3 would be the obvious first step (I'm making up the details, but it gives you the idea). One funny thing was that, if you forgot the semi-colon at the end of the PRINT# command, you got an "nnnn" noise at the end of every statement. Why? Because all ASCII characters had associated sounds with the synthesiser, and the end of line character, which the semi-colon suppresses in a print statement, was mapped to the sound of the letter N.
Decades later, totally different technology, and you brought up that memory. Plus ça change and all that.
Decades later, totally different technology, and you brought up that memory. Plus ça change and all that.
I wonder if that was related to "\n", or if the synthesizer intentionally mapped nonprinting characters to sounds (that would seem to make the command set more complicated than necessary, but bytes were precious then so what do I know.)
Could have been that, but I think it was just a coincidence. In CBMSCII, pronounced "ka-BOOM-ski", which was the warped and bizarre version of ASCII used on the Commodore machines, the end-of-line character was 13, aka Ctrl+M, not the C/Unixy Ctrl+J.
From dim, distant memory, every one of the 255 characters had a sound mapped to it, though surely I'm misremembering since there are only about 40 distinct phonemes in English.
I just remembered that it was called SAM, and here's the Wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Automatic_Mouth Ah, memories...
From dim, distant memory, every one of the 255 characters had a sound mapped to it, though surely I'm misremembering since there are only about 40 distinct phonemes in English.
I just remembered that it was called SAM, and here's the Wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Automatic_Mouth Ah, memories...
I also hit 'n' as well, both on the iPhone and the iPad. I was worried this was just me, thanks for letting me know I'm not crazy.
I don't think his flicks are incompatible with the hold-for-alternates option, and the flicks -- with display on the keys -- offer a lot more symbols at easily learnable locations.
I was thinking a more ergonomic keyboard that auto sensed your finger locations when you placed all 10 fingers on the keyboard would make a better keyboard for the ipad.
for a touch typist the keyboard wouldn't even need to be visible, as setting all fingers down again would reset to your current finger locations. Just showing the keys as they are pressed may be sufficient.
Adjusting your fingers to the home row could be difficult. I have had the fingerworks keyboards ever since they came out which has tactile dot's to re-adjust your fingers to the home row. Switching so that the keyboard home row moves to where your fingers are seems like a way to avoid the looking at the keyboard on the screen.
Although since the fingerworks wasn't a wild success, this keyboard app would probably be just for a nitch userbase.
for a touch typist the keyboard wouldn't even need to be visible, as setting all fingers down again would reset to your current finger locations. Just showing the keys as they are pressed may be sufficient.
Adjusting your fingers to the home row could be difficult. I have had the fingerworks keyboards ever since they came out which has tactile dot's to re-adjust your fingers to the home row. Switching so that the keyboard home row moves to where your fingers are seems like a way to avoid the looking at the keyboard on the screen.
Although since the fingerworks wasn't a wild success, this keyboard app would probably be just for a nitch userbase.
I somehow think if every key were to implement this, then quick typing would quickly lead to troubles. Why not simply do a long press for most punctuation and show it underneath, as on Android? I used to hate this about my iPod Touch, which I did a lot of typing on (often used for IM) and I am already faster using the touchscreen on my Android phone then I ever was on my much-used iPod (after 2 weeks with the phone and a year with the iPod).
That said, I doubt this is a independent-developer possibility. Alternative keyboards for iOS have, thus far, been limited to their own app, such as ShapeWriter as there is no way to implement them system-wide.. you can copy and paste and what not, but it's far from convenient.
That said, I doubt this is a independent-developer possibility. Alternative keyboards for iOS have, thus far, been limited to their own app, such as ShapeWriter as there is no way to implement them system-wide.. you can copy and paste and what not, but it's far from convenient.
"Flicking down on any letter renders it in uppercase. Flicking downward with two or more fingers anywhere on the keyboard toggles Caps Lock, which is identified by swapping the uppercase and lowercase labels on the flickeys."
It seems that the Caps Lock idea should not be limited to the upper and lower cases. I would propose that a two finger swipe in any direction could shift the keyboard and replace the primary key faces.
Flick a single key with one finger to type from the alternate characters in that direction.
Double flick up, right, down or left to shift-lock in the chosen direction. Shift-locking consecutively in the same direction would cycle in order.
A two finger tap could return to default.
It seems that the Caps Lock idea should not be limited to the upper and lower cases. I would propose that a two finger swipe in any direction could shift the keyboard and replace the primary key faces.
Flick a single key with one finger to type from the alternate characters in that direction.
Double flick up, right, down or left to shift-lock in the chosen direction. Shift-locking consecutively in the same direction would cycle in order.
A two finger tap could return to default.
Interesting idea, but most interesting is the retention of capslock. Is there ever a real use for capslock anymore? I can imagine turning it on by accident and promptly going insane.
Well, if you want to type in all caps for some reason, then caps lock on iPad keyboard seems much more usable than hitting shift, hitting key, hitting shift again, repeat repeat. Especially if you might be using the keyboard one handed.
By the way, .?123 is an odd label. You can already type . and ? from the main keyboard.
Minor Note: This is a holdover from the iPhone keyboard which has no punctuation marks on the main letter keyboard. I'm not sure whether it's better to keep the symbols the same or not but I can certainly understand why Apple would have the somewhat redundant symbols on the button.
Minor Note: This is a holdover from the iPhone keyboard which has no punctuation marks on the main letter keyboard. I'm not sure whether it's better to keep the symbols the same or not but I can certainly understand why Apple would have the somewhat redundant symbols on the button.
I think this guy takes it a couple of steps too far. If he noticed that the keyboard doesn't give him enough feedback about where some of the shifted/modified keys are, then increased display of the character options is called for, not introducing an entirely new movement.
I've been wanting to do this for a while now.
Surprisingly, if you look at the date of the post, it was originally written on April 23rd, 2010, a few weeks after the iPad was released.
Surprisingly, if you look at the date of the post, it was originally written on April 23rd, 2010, a few weeks after the iPad was released.
I'd just settle for Swype.
I'm not sure swype works well in the iPad context. I don't even like to use it in landscape on my incredible. It's too much distance to swype.
Long before Swype, I enjoyed Fitaly on keyboards that were so small they needed a stylus.
Fitaly is designed to minimize single finger travel:
http://fitaly.com/fitaly/ofkey.htm
Fitaly is designed to minimize single finger travel:
http://fitaly.com/fitaly/ofkey.htm
In this new scheme I'd be learning a new movement for each capitalization and special character. Seems like it will be a while before I'd become nearly as proficient as I am now (65wpm).
Also, adding flicks (especially downwards ones) to all of the keys seems like a recipe for wrist strain.
There are some interesting ideas in this post, and I'm not saying there isn't room for improvement on the iOS keyboards, but this isn't it. In the end I think it just boils down to needing practice.
And yes: I'm biased. My buddy and I buuilt an iOS typing trainer called TapTyping. We have seen people get some pretty impressive results:
http://www.flairify.com/leaderboard/