Argentine president positive for coronavirus after vaccination early this year(reuters.com)
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Argentine president positive for coronavirus after vaccination early this year
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-argentina-presiden/argentine-leader-alberto-fernandez-says-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-idUSKBN2BQ03X
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I’m from Argentina. The situation is crazy here. We had almost 9 months of full lock down last year: our GDP fell more than 20%, below levels of our “worst” history (2001 crisis).
We then got a bunch of Sputnik vaccines, but instead of vaccinating old people, they decided to give it between friends and politicians (20 years olds). It was a big mess.
The fact the president is positive, it’s not big deal, Sputnik seems to be a very good vaccine, but with 90-95 efficacy. The only big thing could be if he got a variant/mutation (Brazil, UK). It’s still unknown at the moment if Sputnik is effective against those mutations.
We then got a bunch of Sputnik vaccines, but instead of vaccinating old people, they decided to give it between friends and politicians (20 years olds). It was a big mess.
The fact the president is positive, it’s not big deal, Sputnik seems to be a very good vaccine, but with 90-95 efficacy. The only big thing could be if he got a variant/mutation (Brazil, UK). It’s still unknown at the moment if Sputnik is effective against those mutations.
This shouldn't be unexpected. Vaccines don't provide 100% protection, so the only potentially notable thing here is just that it's the president of Argentina. Speculation about the effectiveness of the Russian vaccine based on this is pointless because it's a sample size of 1.
It is fair to speculate about many reasons. For example if the logistics to bring the vaccine worked well or if the production conditions worked flawlessly. Almost everything that depends on Argentina government is corrupt and does not work as expected.
I edited my answer as you posted, but no, this report on its own is no reason to speculate about anything, because the sample size is 1. You'd need data from thousands of patients to gain any useful insights into anything like logistics or production.
As an Argentinian myself I have a bigger sample size. Check news like this (in Spanish) https://www.aa.com.tr/es/mundo/gobierno-y-justicia-de-argent...
Maybe he lied on the vaccination
Even the better vaccines only have about a ~95% efficacy in preventing symptomatic covid. Notice that's not including asymptomatic covid.
The most important vaccine statistic is the ( I think still current) 0 deaths in the vaccinated groups.
The most important vaccine statistic is the ( I think still current) 0 deaths in the vaccinated groups.
Except all the deaths after being vaccinated e.g. Astrazeneca but not exclusively.
AstraZeneca is probably more dangerous than covid for the younger, healthy, population, while still being a good risk/reward tradeoff for the elderly.
But we figured that out by collecting statistics. Not by publishing anecdotes.
And as for the comment you're replying to:
> The most important vaccine statistic is the ( I think still current) 0 deaths in the vaccinated groups.
If the "official" stats show 0 deaths after vaccination, be very suspicious! People die all the time, roughly 1% of the population per year. If you vaccinate a non-trivial number of people, some will die by coincidence anyway. If those coincidental deaths aren't being reported, you're going to have a much harder time making sure they are in fact just the expected number of coincidences.
But we figured that out by collecting statistics. Not by publishing anecdotes.
And as for the comment you're replying to:
> The most important vaccine statistic is the ( I think still current) 0 deaths in the vaccinated groups.
If the "official" stats show 0 deaths after vaccination, be very suspicious! People die all the time, roughly 1% of the population per year. If you vaccinate a non-trivial number of people, some will die by coincidence anyway. If those coincidental deaths aren't being reported, you're going to have a much harder time making sure they are in fact just the expected number of coincidences.
"""He had received Russia’s Sputnik V vaccine against the coronavirus early this year."""
Hmmmm
Hmmmm
Emphasis mine.
Entirely expected events that are just a minor scare to the person they're happening to anyway are not newsworthy. Report the statistics, not the anecdotes.