Lumina Desk – digital desk for health and productivity(getlumina.com)
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Lumina Desk – digital desk for health and productivity
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You can't do a Show HN with just a signup page. There needs to be a way for people to try out the product. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html.
A physical product such as a desk obviously can't be tried out over the internet, but the product needs to physically exist and there needs to be some meaningful way to look it over.
A physical product such as a desk obviously can't be tried out over the internet, but the product needs to physically exist and there needs to be some meaningful way to look it over.
Looks very slick. I'm not sure I understand why I'd want stock prices and social feeds on my desk though, but I guess that's configurable. I imagine this is a personal preference thing, but I've never really understood the appeal of having task lists and such in my face all the time, whether it be on a watch or a widget on my phone home screen or wherever. If I'm managing tasks, I'll open up my task list and then shove it out of my way. If there's something timely, I'll get a notification, etc. The idea of an always-on or even available-at-a-glance task list or any similar information source just doesn't make much sense to me. Even looking at my wrist while I'm at my desk arguably takes longer than cmd + tab to whichever app on my desktop contains my tasks.
I really do hate to seem so negative about something that does seem quite cool, but I feel that in general, there's a kind of addictive, porny aspect to productivity and workspace hacking type stuff, whereby people spend an inordinate amount of time and energy trying to optimize things that really are the least in need of optimization. Weather? Available at a glance on all my devices which I'm always near. Stocks? Don't wanna see 'em, but if I did, also available at a glance. Ditto for tasks as I mentioned above.
In fact, it seems to me that my desk is one of the few, physical, tactile pieces of "equipment" in my workspace that is free from any digital interference and I'd much prefer to keep it that way.
It's just very hard for me to imagine how I don't _lose_ rather than gain focus or productivity by sticking more information in my face while I'm working.
Am I missing something?
Still, congrats on a very sharp looking product launch (is it launched?)!
I really do hate to seem so negative about something that does seem quite cool, but I feel that in general, there's a kind of addictive, porny aspect to productivity and workspace hacking type stuff, whereby people spend an inordinate amount of time and energy trying to optimize things that really are the least in need of optimization. Weather? Available at a glance on all my devices which I'm always near. Stocks? Don't wanna see 'em, but if I did, also available at a glance. Ditto for tasks as I mentioned above.
In fact, it seems to me that my desk is one of the few, physical, tactile pieces of "equipment" in my workspace that is free from any digital interference and I'd much prefer to keep it that way.
It's just very hard for me to imagine how I don't _lose_ rather than gain focus or productivity by sticking more information in my face while I'm working.
Am I missing something?
Still, congrats on a very sharp looking product launch (is it launched?)!
No you're not missing something. This is aimed at the tech person equivalent of Instagram bullet journalers, where the act of decorating pages and writing tasks is the goal as well as the process.
I don't get it either but I can at least see the appeal.
I don't get it either but I can at least see the appeal.
I agree, seems like it would be very distracting to have something, doesn't matter what, constantly scrolling/updating on a non-primary display. I purposely put weather, stocks, news, social, etc. out of the way so I can focus on work. On Mac this is just the side-bar thingy with widgets for those things.
My todo lists are always pen/paper because digital ones do not work for me. I get that there are people that use digital task lists and work well with them. I like having a desktop I can write on or not worry about spilling drinks on too.
I just got a sit/stand desk and have been watching various youtube videos on desk accessories and there is a whole category of what I would call desk porn - amazing looking, beautiful setups, tidy wires, special lighting, etc. that are just impractical from a daily need to do work perspective. They seem staged for the sole purpose of taking fancy pictures of them. This desk looks geared for people that want to mimic those desk setups. I'll stick to my post-it notes here and there, notebooks, real books, toys, etc. littered across my desk.
My todo lists are always pen/paper because digital ones do not work for me. I get that there are people that use digital task lists and work well with them. I like having a desktop I can write on or not worry about spilling drinks on too.
I just got a sit/stand desk and have been watching various youtube videos on desk accessories and there is a whole category of what I would call desk porn - amazing looking, beautiful setups, tidy wires, special lighting, etc. that are just impractical from a daily need to do work perspective. They seem staged for the sole purpose of taking fancy pictures of them. This desk looks geared for people that want to mimic those desk setups. I'll stick to my post-it notes here and there, notebooks, real books, toys, etc. littered across my desk.
> They seem staged for the sole purpose of taking fancy pictures of them.
Yeah, exactly. And well said. It's like, I'll look at such products and think "wow!", but simultaneously I'm thinking "this is the exact opposite of the type of setup that someone who is serious about focusing on their work would want."
Yeah, exactly. And well said. It's like, I'll look at such products and think "wow!", but simultaneously I'm thinking "this is the exact opposite of the type of setup that someone who is serious about focusing on their work would want."
Slack would be interesting. I have two displays now, one for work, one for monitoring/slack/logs etc. Though I often use the second display for a web browser to read one thing while working on another. The second monitor always felt like overkill, but it is very functional. The only problem with this is the ergonomics. Would the keyboard get in the way? Do I have to stand up or like lift myself to read it? It seems like it would have to tilt up to be functional.
tools enable people to do more things. those things can increase or decrease productivity. at the end of the day, it's largely defined by individual settings.
examples: * if you in ops or management, and are in comm mode daily, need calls / messages with your team, this keeps you hooked up to everything going on. * if you are in engineering or research, and want to go into deep focus, you can use the widgets for things like code, logs, a lofi playlist, etc. * if you're a degen trader, you can also load up 5 twitter widgets and a stonk chart.
sure if the engineer used a degen trader dashboard, it would be counter productive. Google can't stop me from opening reddit / youtube on my browser, I don't blame them for making me less productive.
examples: * if you in ops or management, and are in comm mode daily, need calls / messages with your team, this keeps you hooked up to everything going on. * if you are in engineering or research, and want to go into deep focus, you can use the widgets for things like code, logs, a lofi playlist, etc. * if you're a degen trader, you can also load up 5 twitter widgets and a stonk chart.
sure if the engineer used a degen trader dashboard, it would be counter productive. Google can't stop me from opening reddit / youtube on my browser, I don't blame them for making me less productive.
Good luck, and seems like a nicely executed product. There's certainly demand in the prosumer home office market – lots of money being spent there.
Personally, I'm surprised that showing more information is frequently correlated with an _increase_ in productivity. I see many 'inspiration' setups with multiple screens, often taken up by a single app like Twitter or Spotify, and they feel like distractions, not productivity boosts.
It seems like this would be used as a more embedded version of a second screen, which I gave up on because its main purpose was to take my attention away from what was on my main screen (I recognize there are times when side-by-side screens are helpful, just not that often for me).
Personally, I'm surprised that showing more information is frequently correlated with an _increase_ in productivity. I see many 'inspiration' setups with multiple screens, often taken up by a single app like Twitter or Spotify, and they feel like distractions, not productivity boosts.
It seems like this would be used as a more embedded version of a second screen, which I gave up on because its main purpose was to take my attention away from what was on my main screen (I recognize there are times when side-by-side screens are helpful, just not that often for me).
Slick product, by the looks of it.
Not having even a rough price is rather annoying, though. I'd rather not give up my contact information and reserve a desk just to find out it's like $40,000 or something.
Not having even a rough price is rather annoying, though. I'd rather not give up my contact information and reserve a desk just to find out it's like $40,000 or something.
Out of curiosity - have you actually prototyped this? Or is everything on that website just a rendering?
Also, having worked in the space, it seems like you're missing some key features of enterprise workstations - chief among them is supporting monitor arms for external monitors.
Also, having worked in the space, it seems like you're missing some key features of enterprise workstations - chief among them is supporting monitor arms for external monitors.
Good catch, it looks like the channel that's used to stuff cables in wouldn't work with clamp style monitor arms.
Prominently absent: any hint as to how much this will cost.
Are there actually people who manage to keep their desk empty enough for these screens to be visible? Mine's got an ever-shifting pile of reference books, notebooks and keepsakes right where those are sitting. If I clean it off this stuff will accumulate again rapidly.
Are there actually people who manage to keep their desk empty enough for these screens to be visible? Mine's got an ever-shifting pile of reference books, notebooks and keepsakes right where those are sitting. If I clean it off this stuff will accumulate again rapidly.
Anyway, thanks for the accidental reminder to spend a little time cleaning the pile of mail off my desk, and refreshing the tape that keeps some cables stuck to its underside. Now I can see most of the Mardi Gras doubloons that are scattered across its surface to provide a happy, healthy environment for the toy dragons under the monitor.
Maybe I missed it, but can you give a ballpark price?
Without specific dimensions for the display its hard to figure out how big, and where the display actually sits. There's not much room between the legs of my monitor stand, and the top of my keyboard, and even less so with a desk mat.
Without specific dimensions for the display its hard to figure out how big, and where the display actually sits. There's not much room between the legs of my monitor stand, and the top of my keyboard, and even less so with a desk mat.
I've been a Lumina Camera user for almost a year now and I've been impressed with two things: the quality of the camera, but also the Lumina team's approach to improvements. They ship updates constantly and the software gets better all the time. I'm excited to see that same approach to such a cool new product.
Is there anyway to use the screen as an external display without using an "app"? I would totally get this if I could just use it as a regular screen. I would dock my terminal or maybe youtube on the screen (I've been actually on the market for an external 14" ultra ultra wide monitor just for this)
Using it as an external display would also get rid of the problem of vendor lock it to the Lumina app ecosystem. A desk should last a VERY long time.
Something tells me this would undermine the business case of selling you a subscription for your desk to work.
The screen feels like something that would ultimately end up detracting from my health and productivity as other comments have similarly mentioned already.
I love the power sockets and wireless charging aspects of this though, and I'd be super interested in a version without the embedded display.
I love the power sockets and wireless charging aspects of this though, and I'd be super interested in a version without the embedded display.
I like the scheduled sit and stand, and I like the power and cable management.
The display concept... As someone in physical therapy for neck strain, I have my doubts about putting a bunch of information in the plane of the desk itself. Also, I put stuff on my desk.
One thing that might make me excited is if the desk were to have a handwriting system that rivaled paper. Just dreaming here but if it could easily be trained to recognize my handwriting so that all my handwritten notes became searchable.... well that would be futuristic indeed.
P.S. definitely going to purchase the webcam!
The display concept... As someone in physical therapy for neck strain, I have my doubts about putting a bunch of information in the plane of the desk itself. Also, I put stuff on my desk.
One thing that might make me excited is if the desk were to have a handwriting system that rivaled paper. Just dreaming here but if it could easily be trained to recognize my handwriting so that all my handwritten notes became searchable.... well that would be futuristic indeed.
P.S. definitely going to purchase the webcam!
I would mostly be interested in ergonomic sensors. I never know if I am using a good posture.
Apart of that, I want to focus on my work instead of having a source of interruptions.
Looks really good, congratulations!
I'd be really interested to buy non-screen version of this. I wish that screen was an optional accessory. The last thing I want on my desk is SM timeline or stock ticker/graph. In fact I want my desk to be as dumb as possible, no internet connectivity. Provide me a sturdy height adjustable desk with tons of ports and power outlets.
BTW do you ship to India?
I'd be really interested to buy non-screen version of this. I wish that screen was an optional accessory. The last thing I want on my desk is SM timeline or stock ticker/graph. In fact I want my desk to be as dumb as possible, no internet connectivity. Provide me a sturdy height adjustable desk with tons of ports and power outlets.
BTW do you ship to India?
Interesting. Some questions I'd ask if I was evaluating a product like this …
- Do you make it in colors other than black? Very little in my house is black …
- What's the "usable area?" (excluding the charging slots)
- What's the back look like, in case I have this in an open room? Is there a lip to prevent things from sliding off the back?
- Why a glass surface? Glass is a poor writing surface, retains heat/cold, generally works poorly for optical mice.
- How do the widgets differ from the ones on my computer?
- How do I interact with the widgets?
- Can I move the screen's viewable area … if I work with my keyboard close to the base of the monitor, will the keyboard cover the widgets?
- If I spill, will it fry the all-over wireless charging? (and will it flow in to the AC ports in the back?)
- Is there any harm (to me, other devices) in working on top of a wireless charging surface?
- Can I place the back flush against the wall, or do I need to allow a clearance for the power cover to open?
I see some nice details: the extra space in the power bank area for hubs, drives, raspberry pis, etc and the horizontal slots under the desktop surface for hanging/attaching things.
I like the idea of all-over charging, and like the aesthetic choices as well.
The core requirements of "Desk" are largely unchanged, so you'll have to nail the small quality-of-life details if you want people to pony up 2-3x the "Minimum Viable (adjustable) Desk" amount of ~$600 … while avoiding people's divergent personal preferences on what a workspace must be.
Good luck …
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- Do you make it in colors other than black? Very little in my house is black …
- What's the "usable area?" (excluding the charging slots)
- What's the back look like, in case I have this in an open room? Is there a lip to prevent things from sliding off the back?
- Why a glass surface? Glass is a poor writing surface, retains heat/cold, generally works poorly for optical mice.
- How do the widgets differ from the ones on my computer?
- How do I interact with the widgets?
- Can I move the screen's viewable area … if I work with my keyboard close to the base of the monitor, will the keyboard cover the widgets?
- If I spill, will it fry the all-over wireless charging? (and will it flow in to the AC ports in the back?)
- Is there any harm (to me, other devices) in working on top of a wireless charging surface?
- Can I place the back flush against the wall, or do I need to allow a clearance for the power cover to open?
I see some nice details: the extra space in the power bank area for hubs, drives, raspberry pis, etc and the horizontal slots under the desktop surface for hanging/attaching things.
I like the idea of all-over charging, and like the aesthetic choices as well.
The core requirements of "Desk" are largely unchanged, so you'll have to nail the small quality-of-life details if you want people to pony up 2-3x the "Minimum Viable (adjustable) Desk" amount of ~$600 … while avoiding people's divergent personal preferences on what a workspace must be.
Good luck …
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Social feeds on your desk. For more “productivity”?
of course from time to time some ads may cover all your desk too. but just configure a short session with this picture https://www.istockphoto.com/fr/vectoriel/vintage-big-brother... and your productivity is recovered, even exceeded.. ;-)
I can see the appeal of the screen, but would want it pretty strictly limited to the time, calendar events, and maybe something like what Spotify song I'm playing at the moment. Products like Tidbyt (https://tidbyt.com/) do a cool job at this sort of thing as well.
That said, my big concern when seeing products like this is what happens if the company making it goes out of business and shuts off their servers. Presumably the screen in my desk would become useless as I'm nearly certain there must be some kind of underlying cloud-based API for it to interface with to get data.
Definitely a cool idea, especially in terms of smarter management of standing schedules and built-in power management, but the screen seems like a big potential failure point, and it would really suck to buy a beautiful desk like this and not be able to get super long-term (10-15+ years) use of it
That said, my big concern when seeing products like this is what happens if the company making it goes out of business and shuts off their servers. Presumably the screen in my desk would become useless as I'm nearly certain there must be some kind of underlying cloud-based API for it to interface with to get data.
Definitely a cool idea, especially in terms of smarter management of standing schedules and built-in power management, but the screen seems like a big potential failure point, and it would really suck to buy a beautiful desk like this and not be able to get super long-term (10-15+ years) use of it
What user research went into validating that people want this kind of coupling of tech to a desk? We all saw how poorly the Magic Bar fared with Apple... Just curious why anyone would want to have apps integrated so heavily into something so immobile when portable viewports like a laptop/tablet/phone/watch are just as feasible.
Looking down, to where I store my coffee, for data I can display on my other screen. Seems like another monitor would be a much better investment for someone with additional data to display, and much healthier.
This is a really cool product. What's the cost going to look like? Also, is Linux support feasible - even unofficially?
This looks great!
One problem I've noticed is that with my adjustable desk (Jarvis) I found that following guides on "proper pose" the correct height of my desk is 26 inches when sitting down (and I'm not short), while this has a minimum height of 30 inches.
Are you planning to add an extended range option?
One problem I've noticed is that with my adjustable desk (Jarvis) I found that following guides on "proper pose" the correct height of my desk is 26 inches when sitting down (and I'm not short), while this has a minimum height of 30 inches.
Are you planning to add an extended range option?
+1. Would really like to emphasize this point by @cube2222. I'm currently on the market for a height adjustable desk, and have eliminated some options based on the fact that they don't go down to 25-26". It's the first filter I use in my search. And I will mention...I'm willing to pay more to ensure that I get that.
It's a cool idea, but huge swaths of the population won't find this ergonomic as it is currently.
It's a cool idea, but huge swaths of the population won't find this ergonomic as it is currently.
What's the price of this?
The easiest way to stop someone having any interest in your product is to try and conceal how much it's going to cost them.
Even if you don't have a final estimate, what are we talking. 3k ?
>These can now be in your desk, playing a role similar to a paper calendar or newspaper, but now in a seamlessly digital format.
I have an iPad pro on my desk, it serves all these purposes. It's a smaller screen alongside my monitor for me to play music and stuff, maybe glance over and read the news.
I don't mean to come off as too harsh, but it's not clear what problems you're trying to solve.
Now if you did something like created a mat that I could put on an existing desk, or so.
I'd be open to buying it, as long as it's $1,000 or less.
The easiest way to stop someone having any interest in your product is to try and conceal how much it's going to cost them.
Even if you don't have a final estimate, what are we talking. 3k ?
>These can now be in your desk, playing a role similar to a paper calendar or newspaper, but now in a seamlessly digital format.
I have an iPad pro on my desk, it serves all these purposes. It's a smaller screen alongside my monitor for me to play music and stuff, maybe glance over and read the news.
I don't mean to come off as too harsh, but it's not clear what problems you're trying to solve.
Now if you did something like created a mat that I could put on an existing desk, or so.
I'd be open to buying it, as long as it's $1,000 or less.
Congrats on the launch.
Your website is super annoying to me. Gray on black prevents me to read much of the text without highlighting or zooming in. Those image swaps for scrolling is very distracting and disconcerting.
Convince me that your desk is worth the money (which we do not know), compared to buying an Ikea door and set of sturdy electric stand/sit legs with memory ($600).
The drawings on your website do look interesting, and look quite sleek and well executed.
edit: bit more details about my desk so the comparison makes sense desktop is 61" x 30" x 1" solid wood, goes sitting 26" to 52"+, I stopped at 52" because the cables where stretching, lifts up to 500lbs, have not tried that max.
Your website is super annoying to me. Gray on black prevents me to read much of the text without highlighting or zooming in. Those image swaps for scrolling is very distracting and disconcerting.
Convince me that your desk is worth the money (which we do not know), compared to buying an Ikea door and set of sturdy electric stand/sit legs with memory ($600).
The drawings on your website do look interesting, and look quite sleek and well executed.
edit: bit more details about my desk so the comparison makes sense desktop is 61" x 30" x 1" solid wood, goes sitting 26" to 52"+, I stopped at 52" because the cables where stretching, lifts up to 500lbs, have not tried that max.
> Your website is super annoying to me.
I had the same feeling. The background images are just annoying.
I had the same feeling. The background images are just annoying.
Really cool!
What's the developer platform for the desk going to look like? Seems it works for both Mac and PC, but what OS is the desk itself running? Or is it just acting as an external monitor? If so, whats the developer interface look like?
What's the developer platform for the desk going to look like? Seems it works for both Mac and PC, but what OS is the desk itself running? Or is it just acting as an external monitor? If so, whats the developer interface look like?
Two things I didn't see mentioned that I'd want to see:
Some sort of low profile storage, so I can keep my desk clear so I can see the display. Right now I have so many things on my desk that I'd like to put under it: gift cards, USB dongles and storage, lip balm, eye drops, sticky note pads, tape...
Lacing bars underneath to mount equipment to, for example I have my docking station mounted under my desk. I also mount a power strip and ziptie power and data cables to it, which will be less of an issue with the built in charging/power receptacles.
Some sort of low profile storage, so I can keep my desk clear so I can see the display. Right now I have so many things on my desk that I'd like to put under it: gift cards, USB dongles and storage, lip balm, eye drops, sticky note pads, tape...
Lacing bars underneath to mount equipment to, for example I have my docking station mounted under my desk. I also mount a power strip and ziptie power and data cables to it, which will be less of an issue with the built in charging/power receptacles.
As long as your taking input/feedback - look at smartdesk (integrated monitors) or at least integrated monitor stand(s).
Unrelated, Geminos (stacked monitor solution on kickstarter) is doing something interesting with monitors (which frankly have stagnated for a long time). Consider that general purpose monitors and/or pre-configured monitor set-ups specific to your desk solution might help people visualize their use case.
Monitor stand on the desk is a turn-off for me.
Unrelated, Geminos (stacked monitor solution on kickstarter) is doing something interesting with monitors (which frankly have stagnated for a long time). Consider that general purpose monitors and/or pre-configured monitor set-ups specific to your desk solution might help people visualize their use case.
Monitor stand on the desk is a turn-off for me.
One of the core fundamentals I want from a sit/stand desk is that it adjusts low enough. Most people have their keyboard too high up in relation to their elbows - the standard 30" desk we all know was created for writing, not using a keyboard. I currently have my desk set to 26.6in. I care about ergonomics and health, so this is essential. I don't want a desk that displays health information - I want better health!
Names are hard, but not to be confused with Lumina Desktop?
https://lumina-desktop.org/
https://lumina-desktop.org/
Mike, Raymond - big fan and daily user of the webcam. Congratulations on the new product launch announcement, very interested in becoming a customer!
The integrated screen is bad for your neck.
Phones are already bad enough for encouraging poor posture. Do not use screens so low that you have to look down.
Phones are already bad enough for encouraging poor posture. Do not use screens so low that you have to look down.
Two-leg standing desks are very wobbly. You should offer a premium model using a four-leg design, similar to DeskHaus's [1]. I don't represent them, but I do have one of these desks.
[1] https://desk.haus/products/apex-pro-2?variant=39436448366741
[1] https://desk.haus/products/apex-pro-2?variant=39436448366741
Two-legged desks that have a horizontal bar at the bottom connecting the two legs don’t exhibit said wobbliness, in my experience.
The Lumina team could consider this modification to add stability if that is an issue in their product’s usability.
The Lumina team could consider this modification to add stability if that is an issue in their product’s usability.
I have a two-legged Steelcase with the design you mention, and it does wobble considerably compared to my four-legged one at home.
Raise your desk way up and give it a nudge - watch the monitor jiggle
Raise your desk way up and give it a nudge - watch the monitor jiggle
That’s really more of a function of build quality than anything fundamental. Since the linear slides and screws are the most expensive part - I think you’re adding unnecessary cost by going to four adjustable uprights
If that is the case, no brand has high enough build quality. We have tons (literally) of multi-thousand dollars desks from Steelcase and other high-end brands - all of the two-leggers wobble.
I've worked on a 2.5 meter wide German slip roller which adjusts in a similar manner and sits on two legs. it uses nice heavy bearings and screws. you would break your arm before you detected any kind of wiggle.
I've got a Fully 2 leg standing desk and maybe my definition of "very wobbly" is different than yours, but I've been happy with it.
It must be, because I've used one and it produces an unacceptable level of wobble. It's not much by itself, but if you add monitor arms and such, and raise the desk, it is quite noticable
I must just not mind it, because I've got two 30" monitors, one on an arm and one on the desktop, and another arm that holds my personal laptop above my work laptop -- so a lot of stuff on my desk.
I have the Fully "extended range" model, maybe 6" from the top height.
I have the Fully "extended range" model, maybe 6" from the top height.
I have a 2-leg Uplift desk, and I really have to lean into it to make it wobble
Do you have monitor arms? The tiny wobble is exaggerated by the monitor arms. Plus, when standing, I do often lean into the desk a bit.
Yes, but it's the monitor arms that Uplift sells, so perhaps they've put work into keeping things balanced. I also have a third party arm that holds my laptop. It probably helps that it's solid wood (walnut butcher block, 1.5" thick) as opposed to the common MDF/particle board and laminate.
Strap some weights to your monitor arm.
Looks like quite a neat product with so much tech packed into a desk-surface (wireless charging, integrated display, etc) but I think unless my job called for that much glance-able information I'd just end up getting more distracted by the cool screens.
I hope it finds a market of folks who do need that kind of glance-able info, though. Very cool!
I hope it finds a market of folks who do need that kind of glance-able info, though. Very cool!
I used to work with Mike and Raymond. Great team, and I love working with them. Glad to see them launching exciting new products.
Good luck!!
Good luck!!
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What kind of improvements to my health and fitness can I expect from moving my computer and devices over to this desk?
What are the advantages of coupling these additional features to a desk, instead of using separate devices?
my desk has monitor, mic, keyboard, mouse, phone, airpods, a usb dock, a webcam. i think i count 9 separate cables for power and signal.
its a mess, even my Qi wireless charger HAS A CABLE.
honestly this might save my marriage.
its a mess, even my Qi wireless charger HAS A CABLE.
honestly this might save my marriage.
How? With the possible exception of the usb dock, I don't see how this desk replaces any of these, except perhaps your monitor -- albeit, with a worse monitor.
Those widgets look great. Since I saw something about a developer invite on the website, I wonder if a desktop dashboard app could happen?
Also I couldn't quite tell if the desk's display can be touched or not, though I imagine it would make no sense to make it a touch screen.
Also I couldn't quite tell if the desk's display can be touched or not, though I imagine it would make no sense to make it a touch screen.
yep you're right the display is not touch by design. Else it would be too sensitive to various ways people use their desk.
we want users to build their own "daily dashboards" using desk widgets
stuff you normally keep open, or glance at (chat msgs, calendar events, weather, email) but don't actively stare at (medium, code)
we want users to build their own "daily dashboards" using desk widgets
stuff you normally keep open, or glance at (chat msgs, calendar events, weather, email) but don't actively stare at (medium, code)
How well do large power bricks (like for the largest Macbook Pros) fit in the power compartment? Do the USB-C ports support fast charging? (if not, I'm the kind of user that would still use a power brick to get that feature)
Apple's 60W chargers fit, and so do USB docks from Dell / Caldigit / etc. We even have a Legion gaming computer, and that thing's charger is literally wider and longer than a brick.
Does it support monitor arms?
I don't really get the appeal of a display inside the desk surface. That's where people put things, thus covering up the display.
Seems like it was inspired by more sci-fi aesthetics rather than actual user need.
Seems like it was inspired by more sci-fi aesthetics rather than actual user need.
Very sleek looking product.
I see the display has oleophobic coating. Is the entire desk surface safe if I accidentally spill my coffee?
If yes, that is a killer feature you may want to mention upfront. Most users would have that question.
I see the display has oleophobic coating. Is the entire desk surface safe if I accidentally spill my coffee?
If yes, that is a killer feature you may want to mention upfront. Most users would have that question.
good point vivegi! yes display is spill proof.
I want one. Now. It has that TRON vibe I’ve been wanting since I was a kid.
First thing I’d do is throw up a Master Control Program prompt up on that screen. Would be awesome if it was a touchscreen…
First thing I’d do is throw up a Master Control Program prompt up on that screen. Would be awesome if it was a touchscreen…
Looks fit to be on the bridge of a starship! Nice!
This is cool if it can be used as an additional display. Having another OS and app store would be less appealing.
Looks amazing ! Can't wait to use it as my new home workstation !
Can you install a real keyboard tray?
Will the software be open-source?
Have you built one yet?
I like the aesthetics but I personally think its just not practical or useful.
If someone really wanted to fix my workspace, give me a way to hide my keyboard/mouse cable without going wireless. The last time I had my own desk in Australia I drilled a hole to shove the cables through.
A tray to prop my phone up in while its plugged in without needing some third party device.
If someone really wanted to fix my workspace, give me a way to hide my keyboard/mouse cable without going wireless. The last time I had my own desk in Australia I drilled a hole to shove the cables through.
A tray to prop my phone up in while its plugged in without needing some third party device.
Do you have a physical prototype? I’m curious how you got an entire desk surface to support wireless charging under an active screen, apple famously gave up on doing wireless charging and they didn’t have to contend with a LED screen to charge through.
"Delivering 200 watts of power to the surface, Lumina Desk powers any wireless charging-enabled device you place on it." --- including you!
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Last January, we founded Lumina with the mission of building the next-generation workspace.
We started off by launching a product called the Lumina Webcam, essentially a modern webcam that uses software to make you look good.
Building hardware is hard, and it’s been no different for us. We ran an Indiegogo campaign in September that raised ~$700k, scrambled to figure out hardware production (encountering every obstacle you can imagine - customs, supplier issues, parts incompatibilities), and chewed through enough glass in order to start shipping in December. But between then and now, we’ve scaled up production and have gotten some great customer feedback.
Next: we’re building the desk. We set out to rethink this centuries-old product and figure out how to make it into a more useful, productivity enhancing tool.
To start, we’re viewing the desk as a digital device, not just a mechanical one. Your desk could be an extension of your digital workspace; a complement to your phone and computer.
So we’re designing the Lumina Desk to have an embedded display. The thought is: from your desk, you’ll be able to check your calendar, receive call and chat notifications, and more. Or you can install (or build your own) apps to further customize it.
Think of the browser tabs that you keep open to occasionally glance at – the ones with dashboards or calendars or news feeds. These can now be in your desk, playing a role similar to a paper calendar or newspaper, but now in a seamlessly digital format.
With a digital desk, it can also play an active role in your health. Like a way to schedule times to sit or stand, or sensors that detect ergonomic input, or an in-desk dashboard that shows you your health stats.
Finally, we surveyed all the desks on the market and were surprised that few of them had the core fundamentals people want. How many desks have enough cable storage to hide all your cables? Enough usb and 110v sockets to power your workstation? Enough wireless charging space to charge all your wireless devices? These features should be tablestakes for any professional desk.
We’re in the early days of the desk, and there’s still room to shape the development of the product. If you have ideas on how we make the ultimate workspace, reach out and let us know. If you might be interested in building apps, we’d love to talk to you about building our first few apps.
Thanks so much for reading this. There’s a ton of work to be done, and your early support means a lot to us.