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dqx
·5 年前·議論
Study? You're hoping for a peer-reviewed science journal that published an article on who's offended by Joe Rogan?

The original claim was that the total number of people still offended by COVID-victim Joe Rogan's comments was "none." No evidence supports that claim, so we can dismiss it outright, like you said.

I've posted evidence to support mine, your defense is a thought-terminating cliché coined by a game show host.
dqx
·5 年前·議論
Thank you for agreeing, many (a word you used first) people are still upset about Rogan's comments, disproving your point that "none" are. If you have anything but blind speculation you're going on, feel free to provide it!
dqx
·5 年前·議論
I was pretty sure you wouldn't have any criticism more nuanced than "FAKE NEWS," but it's nice to see it confirmed.

I provided a few links because you're apparently unable to use search engines. If you were, you'd understand that people haven't forgotten Rogan's comments.
dqx
·5 年前·議論
> FAKE NEWS

Interesting opinion, it doesn't change the fact that many people are still mad about Rogan's comments.

https://consequence.net/2021/10/team-terf-dave-chappelle/

https://www.foxnews.com/media/the-view-hosts-clash-joe-rogan...
dqx
·5 年前·議論
Joe Rogan's comments keep coming up in the context of discussion of this issue in recent news; many people are still mad. You've picked a poor example.

https://www.salon.com/2021/10/18/tucker-carlson-joe-rogan-an...
dqx
·5 年前·議論
Yeah, getting beaten in the head by a violent mob was probably unrelated to the officer's stroke. You're actually THAT gullible...luckily the medical examiner isn't.

Severe head trauma was unrelated to the suicides of the officers that otherwise acted normally before the "peaceful riot?" Bad faith arguments like that show you have no respect for their lives or the suffering their families are experiencing.

> Are you also blaming nationwide BLM riots for officer suicides

There were no officers that suffered severe head trauma in those riots and then committed suicide, so no. If you read the news you can learn more about that!
dqx
·5 年前·議論
I agree, Trump supporters staged an armed, violent riot at the US Capitol. If you're so out of the loop you haven't seen the hours and hours of footage and social media evidence that shows that the vast majority of attendees were parts of far-right organizations, which organized the riot, I can't help you.

Thank you again for immediately dropping the idea that the police officers that died as a result died of unrelated causes, what a disgusting, gullible view to take of things. An argument in such bad faith it rivaled your "99.9% peaceful riot" one, you might want to look up what "peaceful" and "riot" mean.
dqx
·5 年前·議論
What do you mean by "free speech?" "Unmoderated?" "Uncensored?" "Speech not limited by the government?"

In the US "hate speech" is legally protected as free speech (although hate speech has no concrete definition).
dqx
·5 年前·議論
Yep, we got a great idea of his political acumen handling the pandemic response.
dqx
·5 年前·議論
1. The vast majority were part of the far-right organizations, it was organized by far-right organizations. We have the evidence, we have their communications, they were stupid enough to post everything on social media, we have the video of their little hoodies and logos.

2. They were armed with flagpoles, knives, baseball bats, fire extinguishers, mace, and guns.

Thank you for not even trying to continue pretending the officers that died just happened to die of unrelated causes. Luckily you dropped that the second you were called on it. They died because they were beaten by a violent mob, as confirmed by several medical examiners. You disrespect their lives when you argue in bad faith otherwise, and the Blue Lives Matter bumper sticker on your car.

I never argued there was an insurrection. I argued that an armed, violent riot was staged and organized by the far right, resulting in the deaths of 5 police officers, and the injury of at least 138 more, and extensive damage to The Capitol. Or as you put it, "a 99.9% peaceful riot." The commander in chief of the US military was not powerful enough to stop it.
dqx
·5 年前·議論
> Can you source this

Trump being a very rich business leader with a great deal of political influence? Well, yeah I can.

https://libn.com/2016/09/15/taking-a-peek-at-trumps-foundati...

> why you're defining this as a purely oligarchal [sic] issue

That was the topic of the GP

> Is that really the issue here though, because he lacked "political experience" upon entry into the presidency?

No need for quotes, Trump had 0 experience holding any political office at any level, in contrast to Reagan. He was elected because he was a rich celebrity.
dqx
·5 年前·議論
I agree, most of the violent rioters were armed. It is well documented that organizers had to encourage attendees to leave their guns at home or in their cars (as you mentioned, several were arrested with firearms in their cars on their way to or from the riot).

> The vast majority of participants weren't actually part of any of the so called "far right" groups (e.g. oathkeepers)

LOTS of self-recorded evidence shows that isn't true.

"wait for the 6th when we are all in D.C. to insurrection [sic]"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2021/03/24/capitol-attac...

We know many members of the Proud Bois were there (since arrested). The Oath Keepers even had their little logos printed on their hoodies! You linked to an admission of guilt from a founding member of the Oath Keepers, you...do realize that right?

> The officer died of a stroke within days of the protest, not from injuries.

Strange, the medical examiner disagreed, saying "all that transpired played a role in his condition." Hmm he was pepper-sprayed and beaten by a violent mob, only to die of a stroke hours later. What a cowinky-dink!

The other officers had no history of mental illness. After being beaten by a violent mob, their partners described them as acting unlike their usual selves, shortly before committing suicide. Another chance coincidence I guess!

The medical examiner said of Officer Jeffrey Smith that the "acute, precipitating event that caused the death of Officer Smith was his occupational exposure to the traumatic events he suffered on January 6, 2021." Are you really that gullible?
dqx
·5 年前·議論
Yes I know. Trump was elected because he was an oligarch, not because of his political experience.

Reagan had (comparatively) none of the wealth and real political experience at the federal level. He was not an oligarch.
dqx
·5 年前·議論
Thanks for providing evidence of a capitol rioter carrying a firearm. No True Scotsman I guess.

Most of the rioters were armed. There are a couple videos of the riot if you don't believe me. You're moving the goals posts so that beating a cop with a flagpole until he's dead, throwing fire extinguishers, swinging axes, or planting pipe bombs counts as being "unarmed". Christopher Alberts was caught inside with a loaded handgun.

"DC is no guns," wrote an Oath Keepers member on Facebook, "so mace and gas masks, some batons." They had to remind them to only bring certain weapons to their peaceful protest.

Officer Mike Fanone claims Trump supporters reached for his weapon shouting "kill him with his own gun." He must be exaggerating!

> There hasn't been a single conviction related to insurrection or anything more sinister than rioting or trespassing to date.

Oh wow, you really didn't know. Jon Schaffer plead guilty to entering a restricted building with a dangerous weapon. Why didn't you remind him he was unarmed before he plead guilty?!

> given the lack of firearms and damage

Damage estimates range from $1.5 to $30 million. Do you read the news?
dqx
·5 年前·議論
Makes you wonder why congressman Mo Brooks (R-Alabama) wore body armor to the riot, huh? Maybe to protect against the stun guns, pepper spray, baseball bats and pipe bombs?

14 suspects in the attack are facing federal charges related to bringing dangerous weapons inside the Capitol, 2 are facing firearms-related charges. Why didn't you tell DC's US Attorney’s Office that they were actually unarmed?!
dqx
·5 年前·議論
Agreed, he was an oligarch, and then was democratically elected, but who's to say what Brett "Devil’s Triangle" Kavanaugh will do in the face of a motivated majority?
dqx
·5 年前·議論
5 deaths and at least 138 police officers injured. I'd argue Trump's Capitol riot was more dramatic. It even resulted in more suicides.
dqx
·5 年前·議論
He was an oligarch, and then was democratically elected. His supreme court appointees will continue to enforce his policies for the rest of their lives.

> no system of government can prevent bad actors

Everything's the same! So crypto's no worse then?
dqx
·5 年前·議論
Reagan was a former governor whose net worth paled in comparison to Trump's. He was not an oligarch.
dqx
·5 年前·議論
How effective were the traditional means of removing oligarchs? The US just elected a game show host president 4 years ago.