Sorry, data collection cannot actually be "violent", by definition. Please stop trying to abuse the English language and actually start making reasonable arguments.
> Instead how about a do-not-hire-or-collaborate-with registry of the individual contributors participating in projects that employ those tactics and see how they like trying to opt out of it.
Mob justice - the tool of hypocrites everywhere, to be used against their enemies and then denounced when it's not convenient for them.
> we waste all out vitality and youth making other people rich
If you meant "we waste all our vitality and youth" - that's wrong. A US working week is 40 hours, which is less than one fourth of the 168 real hours in a week, and less than half of its waking hours (assuming 9 hours for sleep).
As for the "making other people rich" part - that's a product of you (and other people) making easy decisions in life, like buying on Amazon, searching on Google, using Windows & Facebook, watching Netflix, owning an Android or Apple phone, buying products based on price instead of doing research (or buying locally), not organizing or joining a union, not contacting your representatives about worrying issues, and so on.
Any power structure (companies and governments) will become overrun by bad actors if those inside of (and under) it don't pay attention to it and stay engaged. Americans seem to have been checked out for the past few decades, and now it's coming back to bite us. Not a surprise.
> We're collectively asked to give up our lives to these companies.
"Give up our lives"? Ridiculous. The vast majority of paid jobs in the US are either on a 40-hour workweek (which is a fraction of the 168 hours in a week) or by the hour (wherein you can work far less, even if not an arbitrarily small amount).
This is utter hyperbole, and even more so when you compare American working hours to Asian ones, such as the infamous Chinese "9-9-6" schedule (72 work hours a week).
> To willingly give over our ability to determine how we order our days.
Well, yeah. That's kind of how jobs work. You provide labor and get capital in return. You're free to opt out and not work if you want.
> To look the other way as our various employers build a literal dystopia.
Nobody is asking you to look the other way. Unions exist for a reason. Political activism is legal and actively practiced.
Fact-check: false. The Florida law only applies to rioters, not protestors. "Riot" is defined as:
"three or more people acting with common intent resulting in injury to others, damage to property, or the imminent danger of injury or damage."
There's a second "Aggravated riot":
"25 or more participants cause great bodily harm or more than $5,000 in property damage, uses or threatens to use a deadly weapon, or blocks roadways by force or threat of force."
If you're doing any of the above things, you're not protesting.
The law was most likely the direct result of a violent mob climbing on top of this guy's car in Florida, one of whom the driver hit in his attempts to get away.
I beg to differ. The most obvious explanation is that we literally just don't know what these things are. The second most obvious is that these are foreign advanced drone technology. Saying that "we're actually trying to pull a psyop on our enemies" may or may not be more technologically feasible (at least, given the current state of the art of the private industry), but it's definitely not the most obvious.
I'm not going to call Occam's Razor, though, because militaries are up to spooky things.
Let's just call "cancelling" what it is - mob justice - and its executors what they are - mobs and mob justice apologists.
Perhaps a browser extension that replaces "cancel culture" with "mob justice tolerance" would be appropriate. We already have the cloud-to-butt extension...
> I really don’t like the idea of the government dictating what a company does with it’s software
Part of what most people (including me) expect a government to do is to help protect consumers from malicious actions by companies. That's why we have things like ingredient labels, anti-anti-competitive regulations, the SEC, truth-in-advertising requirements, and many, many more things.
This kind of thing requires giving a small amount of additional power to the government in exchange for significant benefits to consumers. This is generally a good trade, and it certainly is in this case, because Apple's locking down of their hardware and software are malicious actions toward consumers - they serve only the good of Apple (and before you start raising objections about possible security benefits for consumers - it's trivial to design systems that give almost exactly the same security guarantees to consumers while also giving them the freedom to do whatever they like).
> because that's where people are relying not only on noise but on outright disinformation most right now along the political spectrum
"Since this is an engineering forum", I hope you'll forgive me if I ask for an empirical and quantitative source to back up this assertion. The phenomenon of social media bubbles is well-established, as is the fact that anecdotal evidence is not data, so a person simply noticing that the people spreading disinformation in their particular social media feed seem to be of a certain political bent means slightly less than nothing.
This article that I found by the New York Times[1] says that American troops reported finding almost 5k "chemical munitions" (unclear as to exactly what this means, but I would guess shells) - and that they interviewed dozens of people and confirmed with FOIA'd documents.
Are you suggesting that these dozens of people, including some Iraqi officials, all consistently lied to the NYT and that the USG manufactured false documents to release in response to FOIA requests?
> There is a strong undercurrent that education is bad - a counterculture of ignorance.
My experience has been with people who don't think that education is bad, but modern universities. I know many people who are smart, self-driven, industrious people who like learning things - who aren't interested in going to a public university. (they're more than happy to avail themselves of YouTube videos, Coursera courses, GitHub projects, work on things with friends, and so on)
Given the state of modern universities, with so many of them pushing the murderous ideology that is neo-Marxism, I can't blame them. A few more generations of this and we'll have our own Cultural Revolution, except with even more than the tens of millions of deaths that China did with theirs.
Simultaneous straw-manning and logic-less emotional guilt-tripping. Not cool.
I never made the claim that you're insinuating I made, nor is it implied by anything I said.
> What right do you have to reclaim something that was never a source of harm for you to begin with?
What right do you and your fellow authoritarians have to try to make language inaccessible to me, especially (but not only) when you have never been hurt by it?
See, I can play the emotional manipulation game, too. Doesn't make me more right than you.
Given your claims of "white supremacist and other hate speech is welcomed [...] extremely bigoted shit" being both completely inconsistent with my experience, and the specific things that you are claiming are present, it seems far more likely that you've been banned for the kinds of social authoritarianism (trying to control the speech and thoughts of others) that is particularly popular among a certain political faction lately than those things actually being prevalent and accepted.
Sorry, data collection cannot actually be "violent", by definition. Please stop trying to abuse the English language and actually start making reasonable arguments.
> Instead how about a do-not-hire-or-collaborate-with registry of the individual contributors participating in projects that employ those tactics and see how they like trying to opt out of it.
Mob justice - the tool of hypocrites everywhere, to be used against their enemies and then denounced when it's not convenient for them.