China boycotts Western clothes brands over Xinjiang cotton(economist.com)
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China boycotts Western clothes brands over Xinjiang cotton
https://www.economist.com/business/2021/03/27/china-boycotts-western-clothes-brands-over-xinjiang-cotton
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I quite like Wuheqilin's "Blood Cotton Initiative" -
https://inf.news/en/world/f73406a169d9f85896ccc124e3d3d566.h...
He also did the cartoon of the Australia solder killing a child which the BBC called a "fake image of an Australian soldier killing an Afghan child" because it seems the Chinese are not the only government media playing propaganda.
So for the BBC viewers I should mention the 'photo' above is fake.
https://inf.news/en/world/f73406a169d9f85896ccc124e3d3d566.h...
He also did the cartoon of the Australia solder killing a child which the BBC called a "fake image of an Australian soldier killing an Afghan child" because it seems the Chinese are not the only government media playing propaganda.
So for the BBC viewers I should mention the 'photo' above is fake.
Should also mention that the site you linked pops up scammy chat requests. Gonna have to disinfect my computer with fire now.
Blog post title - "The Two Internets, those with and without Ad Blockers"
Maybe this is the original in Chinese -
https://club.6parkbbs.com/military/index.php?app=forum&act=t...
But I find the market of machine translated blog posts quite interesting, these add to the community, compared to the "English -> random machine translated language -> English" spam, but is also interesting.
Maybe this is the original in Chinese -
https://club.6parkbbs.com/military/index.php?app=forum&act=t...
But I find the market of machine translated blog posts quite interesting, these add to the community, compared to the "English -> random machine translated language -> English" spam, but is also interesting.
Seems like H&M decided to troll China as they are being kicked out https://m.imgur.com/e8r9euj
I didn't read the article because it's behind a paywall, but I was wondering, is the Chinese market that much of a deal for Western companies given selling things in China is much harder than the other way around?
Wanna be middle class people in CN buy fake Western brands, people who have money buy the actual Euro brands. It's their biggest market.
But the brands pushed themselves into a conundrum, they have statements against exploitation and treating people with dignity, etc., and on the other hand they turn a blind eye to the cheap (forced) labor in western China and enjoy the nice profits from the cities in Eastern China. So they ignore their supposed convictions.
But the brands pushed themselves into a conundrum, they have statements against exploitation and treating people with dignity, etc., and on the other hand they turn a blind eye to the cheap (forced) labor in western China and enjoy the nice profits from the cities in Eastern China. So they ignore their supposed convictions.
This is interesting, cause China has just become Europe's num 1 trading partner. Seems just like another US/China trade war escalating.
> Europe's num 1 trading partner
if you only count goods. if you count goods + services, US is still the biggest trading partner
if you only count goods. if you count goods + services, US is still the biggest trading partner
It's not too far off that the EU starts properly taxing US services, so that might not last
One explanation:
It is a big deal for Western companies given their Embedded Growth Obligations. A lot of their stock price and chosen leadership is justified only by the potential for growth that only winning the Chinese market can possibly provide.
It is a big deal for Western companies given their Embedded Growth Obligations. A lot of their stock price and chosen leadership is justified only by the potential for growth that only winning the Chinese market can possibly provide.
Here's a copy of the article: https://smallpdf.com/shared#st=355d9816-1cd2-405a-984c-353e4...
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There's no paywall? Maybe for the US? Nothing for me from Scandinavia.
It is a big deal. One brand mentioned had 520 shops in China. I don't see how things are harder to sell. The article even mentions that covid cause a decline in sales but the higher sales in China can offset it for some (Hugo boss I think was the example).
It is a big deal. One brand mentioned had 520 shops in China. I don't see how things are harder to sell. The article even mentions that covid cause a decline in sales but the higher sales in China can offset it for some (Hugo boss I think was the example).
Is there a list of these companies somewhere past the paywall?
It would be nice to have one, so I know what to buy.
It would be nice to have one, so I know what to buy.
H&M, Burberry, and Nike were the ones I remember. But the article said the companies are kind of being half-assed about it, because they say they talk about only wanting ethically sourced cotton, but aren't willing to actually say they don't support what the Chinese government is doing.
> An online mob besieged H&M and other brands, including Nike, Uniqlo and Adidas, demanding they retract past statements about Xinjiang if they expect to make money in China.
> On March 24th the Communist Youth League, a party affiliate, whipped up a nationalist online boycott of H&M, digging up a months-old statement on the Swedish garment-maker’s corporate website expressing concerns about reports of forced labour in Xinjiang. Government officials and state media joined in. An online mob besieged H&M and other brands, including Nike, Uniqlo and Adidas, demanding they retract past statements about Xinjiang if they expect to make money in China.
> Multiple Chinese celebrities publicly renounced brands they had endorsed but which have stuck by earlier statements about Xinjiang (or not indicated any change). These include H&M, as well as Adidas, Nike, Puma and Uniqlo. Zhou Dongyu, an actress, dropped her deal with Burberry because she said the British maker of posh trench-coats, a member of the Better Cotton Initiative (BCI), a due-diligence consortium, had not “clearly and publicly stated its stance on cotton from Xinjiang”
> Several apparel firms, including Muji, Fila China and the Chinese operation of Hugo Boss, gave testimonials on Chinese social media that they support Xinjiang cotton (all three of those companies have also issued statements from corporate headquarters acknowledging concerns about allegations of forced labour in Xinjiang).
> Other firms have apparently taken down earlier statements about Xinjiang. They include PVH, which owns Calvin Klein, and Inditex, which owns Zara, among other brands.
> Multiple Chinese celebrities publicly renounced brands they had endorsed but which have stuck by earlier statements about Xinjiang (or not indicated any change). These include H&M, as well as Adidas, Nike, Puma and Uniqlo. Zhou Dongyu, an actress, dropped her deal with Burberry because she said the British maker of posh trench-coats, a member of the Better Cotton Initiative (BCI), a due-diligence consortium, had not “clearly and publicly stated its stance on cotton from Xinjiang”
> Several apparel firms, including Muji, Fila China and the Chinese operation of Hugo Boss, gave testimonials on Chinese social media that they support Xinjiang cotton (all three of those companies have also issued statements from corporate headquarters acknowledging concerns about allegations of forced labour in Xinjiang).
> Other firms have apparently taken down earlier statements about Xinjiang. They include PVH, which owns Calvin Klein, and Inditex, which owns Zara, among other brands.
Whenever you see a post about “what did China do again today”, it has lots of up-votes but what a surprise it is not in the front page. Looks like dictatorship lovers are flagging these posts?
People who hate the constant flamewars about China are probably flagging these posts. I've yet to see a single thread that's even tangentially related to the country not devolve into nationalistic tug-of-war.
There are pro-china posts with same discussions under them but nobody flags these posts. This is not specific to hn, a common thing you can see on other platforms. This is unacceptable, feels like censorship spreading from China to my home and it must be called out.
If you think HN has a pro-China bias, make some posts that express pro-China ideas, and see what happens to your karma.
I’m just saying pro-China guys good at flagging posts which criticize China. This doesn’t mean overall HN has a pro-China bias. You see posts praising China how did they achieve something about tech/production/organization etc with same flamewar comments under but nobody flags them and they reach first page, stay there as much as other non flagged posts.
I just joined and I believe I have encountered this already
I want to share two things:
* People's reactions to BCI in China are divided by ages -- younger Chinese prefer goods from companies kind to China.
* Western people's ideas about China are also divided by ages -- you have to refresh your view about the world after 18 months.
Growth means everything. The American people should control covid-19 as quick as possible -- make US a qualified competitor to China.