Netanyahu urged Trump to strike Iran after losing presidency(middleeastmonitor.com)
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Netanyahu urged Trump to strike Iran after losing presidency
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20210717-netanyahu-urged-trump-to-strike-iran-after-losing-presidency/
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Wonder what Trump urged Netanyahu to do before he lost the prime minister spot?
Trump - first president in over 40 years to NOT start a war.
I’m glad we didn’t go to war but I don’t think this is some sort of accomplishment that the career leaders of one of the most notoriously trigger-happy militaries in the world did everything in their power to avoid a war while he was at the helm. If anything I think it’s an indictment of his incompetence as commander in chief.
Generals are on record saying that they would lie to Trump to keep troops in the ME. Trump would give the military deadlines to win or get out of the ME, and they would always beg for an extension.
If anyone talked Trump out of starting a war, it was Tucker Carlson vis-a-vis Iran. Trump did have a bone to pick with Iran, but he did pretty much nothing except kill Rouhani (want to compare that with I'm-pretty-good-at-this-killing-business Obama's kill list?)
If anyone talked Trump out of starting a war, it was Tucker Carlson vis-a-vis Iran. Trump did have a bone to pick with Iran, but he did pretty much nothing except kill Rouhani (want to compare that with I'm-pretty-good-at-this-killing-business Obama's kill list?)
Please fill us in on what war Obama started? Trump didn't do much for peace in the middle east when he moved the Israeli embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
Wars Obama gets to own (100%) (that is wars that would not have occurred without the Obama's administration encouragement, logistical support, and military intervention):
Lybia - (the US went in, as HRC infamously crudely paraphrased Ceser) Yemen - massive logistical support (stat and intel) and sale of weapons. Probably foreign mercenaries (unconfirmed) Syria - weapons and US boots on the ground (there still there). Probably funded and aided groups that became ISIS (relax, I don't think he did it on purpose. It was the same DC hubris that made Taliban out of Mujahadeen).
You can also add Honduras into the list of Obama's "Hope" and "Change" hypocrisy. You can't pin any of that on Trump, since these are conflicts he inherited.
As to Trump's 55 tomahawk missiles, taken out of context, is that the worse of it? Then Trump is the most benign (!!) president since at least Carter [1]. When you consider context, specifically that Trump called the Russians to make sure that the 55 pencils didn't start anything (they were launched to placate calls on CNN), then Trump comes out more favorably still.
As to Jerusalem, that was stupid and an unforced error. However, the ME didn't blow up as expected (unless you consider Lebanon self-destructing a consequence of that?). Also, he was executing the decades old bipartisan desire of Congress that previous presidents had, un-democratically, ignored. Stupid decision, for sure, but Congress gets most of the blame there.
Finally, you can't ignore that every time Trump tried to pull out of the ME, the military stymied him. They even directly disobeyed orders and they are on record as saying that they would misinform the president to keep the troops in.
[1] Carter, like Trump, didn't start a major war. However, his Iran intervention was much worse than anything Trump did (troops on the ground). Therefore, Trump might have been the most benign president for foreign countries since WW2 (when you consider colonialism, possibly far before that).
Lybia - (the US went in, as HRC infamously crudely paraphrased Ceser) Yemen - massive logistical support (stat and intel) and sale of weapons. Probably foreign mercenaries (unconfirmed) Syria - weapons and US boots on the ground (there still there). Probably funded and aided groups that became ISIS (relax, I don't think he did it on purpose. It was the same DC hubris that made Taliban out of Mujahadeen).
You can also add Honduras into the list of Obama's "Hope" and "Change" hypocrisy. You can't pin any of that on Trump, since these are conflicts he inherited.
As to Trump's 55 tomahawk missiles, taken out of context, is that the worse of it? Then Trump is the most benign (!!) president since at least Carter [1]. When you consider context, specifically that Trump called the Russians to make sure that the 55 pencils didn't start anything (they were launched to placate calls on CNN), then Trump comes out more favorably still.
As to Jerusalem, that was stupid and an unforced error. However, the ME didn't blow up as expected (unless you consider Lebanon self-destructing a consequence of that?). Also, he was executing the decades old bipartisan desire of Congress that previous presidents had, un-democratically, ignored. Stupid decision, for sure, but Congress gets most of the blame there.
Finally, you can't ignore that every time Trump tried to pull out of the ME, the military stymied him. They even directly disobeyed orders and they are on record as saying that they would misinform the president to keep the troops in.
[1] Carter, like Trump, didn't start a major war. However, his Iran intervention was much worse than anything Trump did (troops on the ground). Therefore, Trump might have been the most benign president for foreign countries since WW2 (when you consider colonialism, possibly far before that).
He got involved in Syria.
And Trump didn't get involved in Syria? The 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles launched on 04/07/2017 don't constitute involvement to you?
1. He inherited that conflict
2. He called the Russians to make sure the missiles didn't do anything
3. Do you remember the context of those missiles? A possibly fake flag chemical attack (tactically the official story makes zero sense) used to goad him into intervening.
2. He called the Russians to make sure the missiles didn't do anything
3. Do you remember the context of those missiles? A possibly fake flag chemical attack (tactically the official story makes zero sense) used to goad him into intervening.
I despise Trump in general but I have to admit this is the ONE good thing I've heard about the bastard.
Well let me give you a few more that any progressive should get behind
- exec order forcing hospital transparency billing
- exec order forcing lower insulin and adrenaline prices [2]
hate the guy, that's fine. Argue he could have done more, I won't disagree.
But now (unless you're a hospital exec.) you have THREE good things you've heard of the bastard.
[1] https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2019/06/27/2019-13... [2] https://web.archive.org/web/20210116081750/https://www.white...
- exec order forcing hospital transparency billing
- exec order forcing lower insulin and adrenaline prices [2]
hate the guy, that's fine. Argue he could have done more, I won't disagree.
But now (unless you're a hospital exec.) you have THREE good things you've heard of the bastard.
[1] https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2019/06/27/2019-13... [2] https://web.archive.org/web/20210116081750/https://www.white...
I hope this TMZ era of politics has peaked. People make all sorts of extraordinary claims and predictably people who have their existing biases will eat it up and add to their already slanted view of the world.
Practically speaking, somebody linked to the US government - maybe in the Republican party, maybe in the bureaucracy - is very much in favour of invading places near Iran.
The US has invaded Iraq (West of Iran) and Afghanistan (East of Iran). Flippantly speaking, if they want 3-in-a-row the logical thing to do is invade Iran. Probably the best thing in Iran's favour is the US shale gas revolution meaning oil has been deprioritised.
The US has invaded Iraq (West of Iran) and Afghanistan (East of Iran). Flippantly speaking, if they want 3-in-a-row the logical thing to do is invade Iran. Probably the best thing in Iran's favour is the US shale gas revolution meaning oil has been deprioritised.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_C...
It's been a goal of these people for quite some time. Remember Cheney standing at the podium chanting "bomb bomb bomb Iran" to the tune of Labamba?
Sadly they got their way in Iraq, caused the death of a couple 100,000 people, destabilized the nation, and gave US voters 2 decades of lives and money lost.
It's been a goal of these people for quite some time. Remember Cheney standing at the podium chanting "bomb bomb bomb Iran" to the tune of Labamba?
Sadly they got their way in Iraq, caused the death of a couple 100,000 people, destabilized the nation, and gave US voters 2 decades of lives and money lost.
This isn’t a comment about the point you’re making but I’m pretty sure you’re thinking of McCain singing to the tune of “Barbara Ann”.
I think it was closer to 1 million dead - https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-deaths-survey/iraq-c...
Trump befriended Netanyahu on Twitter after Netanyahu was the first one to congratulation Biden after the election while he was still contesting the outcome. Supposedly Trump is still bitter about the betrayal.
https://english.alaraby.co.uk/news/did-donald-trump-unfollow...
https://english.alaraby.co.uk/news/did-donald-trump-unfollow...
As a US citizen, I'd like to be able to once again travel the world without people thinking thus about me.