Biotech in the Garage(sethbannon.com)
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Biotech in the Garage
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Wait what?
> Biology usually doesn't work.
No. This is not true. Biology usually works, it's that the most interesting academic things tend to be on the bleeding edge, and that's where things are not robust.
Of course, I'm not saying that there isn't debugging to be done, but it's not THAT hard. I'm doing something relatively difficult literally in my garage right now (growing a strain with a doubling time of about 6 hours). I can reproducibly make the anticancer compound in one of my strains and am working on debugging and getting a second strain running. (https://benchling.com/ityonemo/f/cHjBceoz-project-marilyn/et...)
> Even the simplest wet-lab reactions take very exacting conditions to work.
Not true. For example I have done over 300 gibson assembly reactions and have taught an intern to do this, he made 50 constructs in 2 months, with time left over for him to biochemically test 25 of them. My procedure was literally, take 1 microlitre of each DNA (don't even bother measuring), and throw on top an equal volume of gibson mix, and then go. Worked nearly every time.
It is quite true that equipment requires a high capital expenditure and it's hard to start up, but those problems are able to be overcome. (e.g. http://blog.indysci.org/starting-a-lab-under-budget/) For example, I have bacterial growth incubator that was being thrown out by herbalife when they upgraded their microbiological QC lab.
> Biology usually doesn't work.
No. This is not true. Biology usually works, it's that the most interesting academic things tend to be on the bleeding edge, and that's where things are not robust.
Of course, I'm not saying that there isn't debugging to be done, but it's not THAT hard. I'm doing something relatively difficult literally in my garage right now (growing a strain with a doubling time of about 6 hours). I can reproducibly make the anticancer compound in one of my strains and am working on debugging and getting a second strain running. (https://benchling.com/ityonemo/f/cHjBceoz-project-marilyn/et...)
> Even the simplest wet-lab reactions take very exacting conditions to work.
Not true. For example I have done over 300 gibson assembly reactions and have taught an intern to do this, he made 50 constructs in 2 months, with time left over for him to biochemically test 25 of them. My procedure was literally, take 1 microlitre of each DNA (don't even bother measuring), and throw on top an equal volume of gibson mix, and then go. Worked nearly every time.
It is quite true that equipment requires a high capital expenditure and it's hard to start up, but those problems are able to be overcome. (e.g. http://blog.indysci.org/starting-a-lab-under-budget/) For example, I have bacterial growth incubator that was being thrown out by herbalife when they upgraded their microbiological QC lab.
No offense, but nothing you've described is what I'd characterize as "difficult". I looked at your benchling link, and it's stuff that most labs give to undergrad work-study kids to get their feet wet with labs. Mostly it's about having access to the right equipment. Ligation reactions are trivial if -- as you've noted -- you use a (relatively expensive) kit. It's just a matter of time and labor costs, and with these new tools, you can trade some money for time/labor. That much is true, but it's never really been the limiting factor in biology. It's the constant on the algorithmic complexity of research.
When the parent says that "even the simplest wet-lab reactions take very exacting conditions to work", they're not really talking about transforming cells with plasmids and autoclaving plates. The conditions are exacting, but the equipment to provide those conditions is not exotic.
The hard, expensive part of biology is the part where someone spends weeks/months/years using those tools to make a new construct that should work, but then doesn't work, because unknown. Then you spend months trying to figure out what factor you're not accounting for, then you give up and start over from a new angle. Then you repeat for 5-7 years, and someone gives you a doctorate.
Saying that biology mostly works is like saying that self-driving cars are easy because we can reliably attach computers to the steering wheel and the gas pedal. It's the parts we don't know about that cost the money.
When the parent says that "even the simplest wet-lab reactions take very exacting conditions to work", they're not really talking about transforming cells with plasmids and autoclaving plates. The conditions are exacting, but the equipment to provide those conditions is not exotic.
The hard, expensive part of biology is the part where someone spends weeks/months/years using those tools to make a new construct that should work, but then doesn't work, because unknown. Then you spend months trying to figure out what factor you're not accounting for, then you give up and start over from a new angle. Then you repeat for 5-7 years, and someone gives you a doctorate.
Saying that biology mostly works is like saying that self-driving cars are easy because we can reliably attach computers to the steering wheel and the gas pedal. It's the parts we don't know about that cost the money.
Perhaps I should qualify what I mean by difficult: growing something with a doubling time of 6 hours is fundamentally more difficult than, say e. coli (40 minutes) because you have to worry about things like sterility, because other things can outgrow you. This is one of the primary concerns in a garage environment.
I mean, I'm not a complete idiot here. I do have a PhD in biophysics/chemistry/biology and four years of postdoc experience. I've designed expression constructs nearly from whole cloth; I've done spectroscopy on metastable peptides; I've produced, characterized and sent for testing a mutasynthesis product; I've improved an enzyme four-fold. Of course all of those things were done in 'real labs', but the last two were done under budgetary pressure where there was a strong emphasis on getting things done cheaply (UMD is not very well-funded, J. Craig Venter Institute was making a painful transition from hard money to soft money). A lot of those lessons I learned under budgetary pressure translate to doing things in the garage, except, more extreme.
I think the primary obstacle to people doing garage biology is not that the biology is hard, but that there are generally two classes of operators, those who have little biology experience, and those who have worked under coddled environments. The real trick is to find things that are maybe a little hard, but not insurmountably so, but with one or two difficult pain points. And which are also interesting. The first class of operator is not generally capable of identifying those qualities, the second class of operator is out of the habit of identifying those qualities.
Biology really does mostly work, you're just looking at a biased system where people are just throwing money at problems and also looking for reasons to justify continuing to throw money at them (so they have to do hard things). That also creates silly folkways like the 'biology is hard' trope which makes the operators miss obvious things because it's just easier to say 'biology is hard' than to think about the problem and figure out how to solve it cheaply and effectively.
I mean, I'm not a complete idiot here. I do have a PhD in biophysics/chemistry/biology and four years of postdoc experience. I've designed expression constructs nearly from whole cloth; I've done spectroscopy on metastable peptides; I've produced, characterized and sent for testing a mutasynthesis product; I've improved an enzyme four-fold. Of course all of those things were done in 'real labs', but the last two were done under budgetary pressure where there was a strong emphasis on getting things done cheaply (UMD is not very well-funded, J. Craig Venter Institute was making a painful transition from hard money to soft money). A lot of those lessons I learned under budgetary pressure translate to doing things in the garage, except, more extreme.
I think the primary obstacle to people doing garage biology is not that the biology is hard, but that there are generally two classes of operators, those who have little biology experience, and those who have worked under coddled environments. The real trick is to find things that are maybe a little hard, but not insurmountably so, but with one or two difficult pain points. And which are also interesting. The first class of operator is not generally capable of identifying those qualities, the second class of operator is out of the habit of identifying those qualities.
Biology really does mostly work, you're just looking at a biased system where people are just throwing money at problems and also looking for reasons to justify continuing to throw money at them (so they have to do hard things). That also creates silly folkways like the 'biology is hard' trope which makes the operators miss obvious things because it's just easier to say 'biology is hard' than to think about the problem and figure out how to solve it cheaply and effectively.
I think that "biology is hard" isn't a trope, because I don't believe in the existence of readily commercializable biotech projects that would exist but for the existence of the kind of stuff that the OP is talking about here. We don't have a lack of biotech startups because robots are too expensive (they are not) or because people can't get access to lab equipment (they can), but because the problems that are potentially commercial are many hard problems away from commercial success.
In case you're wondering, my definition of "hard" is the CS definition: there are "trivial" problems ("send this structured text over a network connection"), there are "straightforward" problems ("scale this website to X requests per second with a median latency of Y"), there are the "hard" problems ("translate english text to another language"), and there are the problems we suspect are intractable ("solve the halting problem"). Pretty much all of the wealth generation in software over the last 30 years has come from the "trivial" and "straightforward" problem sectors. Even Google, when you back out a bit, was the result of the careful solution of straightforward problems. It's not like they "solved" information retrieval or machine translation -- they just took existing research, and scaled it.
In contrast to CS, biology is loaded with stuff that shows potential, but that we just don't understand very well. The money isn't in making bacteria glow, it's in making bacteria glow in a way that provides a reliable biosensor, or making those bacteria produce things that are safe to put inside people. The limiting step here isn't access to robots -- it's our horrible understanding of the underlying biological systems. There's very little (if any) biotech stuff out there that is a "straightforward" problem away from commercial success.
In case you're wondering, my definition of "hard" is the CS definition: there are "trivial" problems ("send this structured text over a network connection"), there are "straightforward" problems ("scale this website to X requests per second with a median latency of Y"), there are the "hard" problems ("translate english text to another language"), and there are the problems we suspect are intractable ("solve the halting problem"). Pretty much all of the wealth generation in software over the last 30 years has come from the "trivial" and "straightforward" problem sectors. Even Google, when you back out a bit, was the result of the careful solution of straightforward problems. It's not like they "solved" information retrieval or machine translation -- they just took existing research, and scaled it.
In contrast to CS, biology is loaded with stuff that shows potential, but that we just don't understand very well. The money isn't in making bacteria glow, it's in making bacteria glow in a way that provides a reliable biosensor, or making those bacteria produce things that are safe to put inside people. The limiting step here isn't access to robots -- it's our horrible understanding of the underlying biological systems. There's very little (if any) biotech stuff out there that is a "straightforward" problem away from commercial success.
Yeah, I totally disagree. There is a lot of biology that are in the 'trivial' and 'straightforward' problem sectors. (btw, the halting problem is provably intractable, not suspected intractable) A large reason why these have not been commercialized is because of the strong IP culture that permeates biology, and the chilling effect that has had. It's so much so that, for example, Hastings has an "IP garage" where you get a freedom to operate analysis on your biotech idea. This also creates a bias towards intractable problems. The more difficult your problem is, the less likely it is to have been patented, so there is an incentive to work on those problems.
And, while the design cycle for biology is longer than CS, it's not that bad, especially now. Given that I have decades of computer programming and wet biology in my background, I guess you can 'trust' that I'm not one of these guys that thinks progamming a cell is as easy as programming a computer. But I do also frequently lament that the approach to biology is often the 'script kiddie' approach.
Among academics and in industry, I OFTEN see that the operator's understanding lacks depth (not the field). We were having a problem with DNA shearing once, and I asked all of my coworkers if they could explain to me the chemical mechanism of DNA shearing and not a single person could even postulate a testable experiment that could have a positive effect on both what we were trying to do and our global understanding.
In another case, I asked around if anyone knew the mechanism of electroporative transformation into E. coli. Looking it up (the answer had been known for about two decades) resulted in a small change in our transformation procedure (at no extra cost!) and a reproducible 20x improvement in the transformation efficiency of 500+kbp DNA.
Yeah, maybe "we just don't understand it well", but it's often because the scientists don't understand it well, not the corpus of humanity as a whole. Now: I'm not saying we have a comprehensive understanding of biology, I'm saying it what we the culture have is enough that simple, useful, garage operations are really in striking range.
And, while the design cycle for biology is longer than CS, it's not that bad, especially now. Given that I have decades of computer programming and wet biology in my background, I guess you can 'trust' that I'm not one of these guys that thinks progamming a cell is as easy as programming a computer. But I do also frequently lament that the approach to biology is often the 'script kiddie' approach.
Among academics and in industry, I OFTEN see that the operator's understanding lacks depth (not the field). We were having a problem with DNA shearing once, and I asked all of my coworkers if they could explain to me the chemical mechanism of DNA shearing and not a single person could even postulate a testable experiment that could have a positive effect on both what we were trying to do and our global understanding.
In another case, I asked around if anyone knew the mechanism of electroporative transformation into E. coli. Looking it up (the answer had been known for about two decades) resulted in a small change in our transformation procedure (at no extra cost!) and a reproducible 20x improvement in the transformation efficiency of 500+kbp DNA.
Yeah, maybe "we just don't understand it well", but it's often because the scientists don't understand it well, not the corpus of humanity as a whole. Now: I'm not saying we have a comprehensive understanding of biology, I'm saying it what we the culture have is enough that simple, useful, garage operations are really in striking range.
"btw, the halting problem is provably intractable, not suspected intractable"
Yeah, I know. I was (unclearly) trying to draw the comparison to the research into correctness. It's impossible for the general case, but people still try to make useful progress with the specific cases.
"A large reason why these have not been commercialized is because of the strong IP culture that permeates biology, and the chilling effect that has had."
I sort-of agree with this. I think one major difference between biology and CS is that CS has a long history of public knowledge about systems that tends to build on in ways that become more abstract (and more powerful) over time. A lot of biological knowledge is public, too, but most of the commercially relevant knowledge is locked up.
"This also creates a bias towards intractable problems. The more difficult your problem is, the less likely it is to have been patented, so there is an incentive to work on those problems."
I totally disagree with this. I've never encountered anyone in the research world who has shied away from a problem simply because there were patents involved. There are a lot of patents in software too, and in my experience, we treat them the same way: we ignore them, and deal with the consequences later.
"Among academics and in industry, I OFTEN see that the operator's understanding lacks depth"
Yeah, OK. I grant you this (I've encountered it, too), but I still don't see how this is meaningfully affected by the stuff we're talking about. Bio hacker-spaces and robot-rental startups do not make this problem go away.
"I'm not saying we have a comprehensive understanding of biology, I'm saying it what we the culture have is enough that simple, useful, garage operations are really in striking range."
Yeah, well...I'm still waiting for examples. ;-)
I tend to believe that the market for good biotech ideas is efficient: there are enough extremely talented people working in the space, and enough money chasing plausible outcomes, that if there's an idea out there that doesn't take decades of basic science to find product-market fit, it has a company working on it already.
More to the point, though, I definitely do not believe that the rate-limiting factor for the creation of new biotech startups is access to machinery. It's access to knowledge, and therefore, this kind of "we're on the cusp of a biotech revolution!" stuff is, well...hyperventilation.
Yeah, I know. I was (unclearly) trying to draw the comparison to the research into correctness. It's impossible for the general case, but people still try to make useful progress with the specific cases.
"A large reason why these have not been commercialized is because of the strong IP culture that permeates biology, and the chilling effect that has had."
I sort-of agree with this. I think one major difference between biology and CS is that CS has a long history of public knowledge about systems that tends to build on in ways that become more abstract (and more powerful) over time. A lot of biological knowledge is public, too, but most of the commercially relevant knowledge is locked up.
"This also creates a bias towards intractable problems. The more difficult your problem is, the less likely it is to have been patented, so there is an incentive to work on those problems."
I totally disagree with this. I've never encountered anyone in the research world who has shied away from a problem simply because there were patents involved. There are a lot of patents in software too, and in my experience, we treat them the same way: we ignore them, and deal with the consequences later.
"Among academics and in industry, I OFTEN see that the operator's understanding lacks depth"
Yeah, OK. I grant you this (I've encountered it, too), but I still don't see how this is meaningfully affected by the stuff we're talking about. Bio hacker-spaces and robot-rental startups do not make this problem go away.
"I'm not saying we have a comprehensive understanding of biology, I'm saying it what we the culture have is enough that simple, useful, garage operations are really in striking range."
Yeah, well...I'm still waiting for examples. ;-)
I tend to believe that the market for good biotech ideas is efficient: there are enough extremely talented people working in the space, and enough money chasing plausible outcomes, that if there's an idea out there that doesn't take decades of basic science to find product-market fit, it has a company working on it already.
More to the point, though, I definitely do not believe that the rate-limiting factor for the creation of new biotech startups is access to machinery. It's access to knowledge, and therefore, this kind of "we're on the cusp of a biotech revolution!" stuff is, well...hyperventilation.
> it's not THAT hard. I'm doing something relatively difficult literally in my garage right now
That's great for your cell-based experiments; and many of the greatest biology discoveries were made with this toolset in the first half of the 20th century.
But what about in vivo experiments with mice and rats? What about X-ray crystallography? What about high throughput screening and counterscreening in the range of millions done before a compound is even considered to be a drug candidate?
This is hard stuff, and it's necessary stuff. Exacting conditions are absolutely essential to achieve the highest chance of reproducibility. Even so, it has been famously reported that somewhere around 11% of published findings can be reproduced independently[0].
[0] http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v483/n7391/full/483531a...
That's great for your cell-based experiments; and many of the greatest biology discoveries were made with this toolset in the first half of the 20th century.
But what about in vivo experiments with mice and rats? What about X-ray crystallography? What about high throughput screening and counterscreening in the range of millions done before a compound is even considered to be a drug candidate?
This is hard stuff, and it's necessary stuff. Exacting conditions are absolutely essential to achieve the highest chance of reproducibility. Even so, it has been famously reported that somewhere around 11% of published findings can be reproduced independently[0].
[0] http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v483/n7391/full/483531a...
The "cheese from yeast" example the article is taking about represents cell based experiments. The discoveries will be more like 3d printing with DNA. Structures, food and clothing made by microbes. The existing companies are good at drugs and will not likely be replaced by this.
A five armed mouse study for an anticancer drug runs in the 10-60k range (I can't give my exact quote at the moment). This is inexpensive.
The expensive stuff is when you go into humans.
The expensive stuff is when you go into humans.
I guess if you're outsourcing it? In my time in academia I knew labs that burned through $25,000 per month in mouse cage costs.
I can only guess what "five arms" you are referring to, but toxicity studies and efficacy studies often require different animals. Not just mice but transgenic mice, or nude mice with xenografts, etc. This has to be pricey to get the statistical power you need for a drug candidate.
I've also heard that the FDA likes to see more than one animal, so either rats or monkeys may be dosed as well. It all adds up.
I can only guess what "five arms" you are referring to, but toxicity studies and efficacy studies often require different animals. Not just mice but transgenic mice, or nude mice with xenografts, etc. This has to be pricey to get the statistical power you need for a drug candidate.
I've also heard that the FDA likes to see more than one animal, so either rats or monkeys may be dosed as well. It all adds up.
Well no one is going to get a drug approved for the FDA exclusively from the garage, but there is a reasonable amount of initial stage research that you could conceivably do from your garage. My project is to push that out to the 'xenograft' stage, which in my opinion is close to the limit, if not the limit. Full disclosure, I'm doing the chemistry in a rented chemistry lab space because I don't want to suffocate myself with chloroform.
Five arms, refers to an experiment with three dosages, a null control and a positive control.
Yes, you can outsource things, which is exactly what I'm doing (it's cheaper and more ethical), but also the model has become really good where you don't have to sack an animal for each time point. That cuts down on costs by a lot.
Five arms, refers to an experiment with three dosages, a null control and a positive control.
Yes, you can outsource things, which is exactly what I'm doing (it's cheaper and more ethical), but also the model has become really good where you don't have to sack an animal for each time point. That cuts down on costs by a lot.
All my experience working in and with biotech/pharma has taught me that your experiments will usually fail. The later they fail the more expensive. Biology is ridiculously hard and certainly not predictable. Aspects are reproducible and engineering-friendly, but most of it is not.
I think this is a toxic attitude. A friend of mine worked at a bioenergy outfit working on cellulosic ethanol and that was the pervading opinion. For years she tried to convince them that the problem was they weren't controlling their inputs, and finally they did her experiment after she made a statistical argument after a massive DOE setup failed. Turned out they were limiting in a basic metabolic requirement. It's too easy to blame biology when it is often just user error. Bio equivalent of pebkac
They started getting reproducible results, then, major improvements, then the facility got shut down for political reasons and she lost her job.
They started getting reproducible results, then, major improvements, then the facility got shut down for political reasons and she lost her job.
>it's not THAT hard.
No, not hard, just crazy expensive.
>Biology usually works
Under the most basic circumstances. Most startups won't have a business model based on doing PCRs with a master-mix.
>For example I have done over 300 gibson assembly reactions and have taught an intern to do this, he made 50 constructs in 2 months, with time left over for him to biochemically test 25 of them.
Likely at a corporation with money to blow on facilities, equipment, and reagents.
We are talking bare-bones start-up here.
>I'm doing something relatively difficult literally in my garage right now
If you want to make impure vitamins and cram them into pills, yeah I guess, but if we are talking even rudimentary biotech level work, then a garage just won't cut it.
No, not hard, just crazy expensive.
>Biology usually works
Under the most basic circumstances. Most startups won't have a business model based on doing PCRs with a master-mix.
>For example I have done over 300 gibson assembly reactions and have taught an intern to do this, he made 50 constructs in 2 months, with time left over for him to biochemically test 25 of them.
Likely at a corporation with money to blow on facilities, equipment, and reagents.
We are talking bare-bones start-up here.
>I'm doing something relatively difficult literally in my garage right now
If you want to make impure vitamins and cram them into pills, yeah I guess, but if we are talking even rudimentary biotech level work, then a garage just won't cut it.
Do you not understand how cheap a gibson assembly is? I priced it out, and each assembly cost on average $2 for the reaction $10 for the competent cells, and maybe about $30 in other costs. Now there is some infrastructure required: If you don't have a -80 to keep competent cells, you would require some tools to make competent cells (like a microfuge spinner) but that infrastructure is not totally expensive.
Second this. This article is written by somebody who clearly has not done bench science. Hacker spaces like Biocurious are cool for making things glow poorly in controlled conditions but lack the tools required for actual research or progress. Even with Science Exchange and Transcriptic, the cost of doing biology is still insanely high and the timescales are tediously long.
What's your feeling on how much CRISPR and techniques around it may lower the thresholds for #1 in genetic engineering?
CRISPR/Cas9 is an invaluable tool at the bench, but it is just a tool. It makes things easier than before, but if you look to the past, you'll see that scientists are cynical people. Attitudes will change slowly (though there are 3 biotech companies jockeying for the ability to use it in clinic).
I think of siRNA and its revolution in biology -- it went from discovery to practical use everywhere in record time, just like CRISPR -- but the direction of research itself did not take that same radical shift. And medicine was improved too, but incrementally.
I think of siRNA and its revolution in biology -- it went from discovery to practical use everywhere in record time, just like CRISPR -- but the direction of research itself did not take that same radical shift. And medicine was improved too, but incrementally.
>some start-up know-it-all walks into the biotech field and thinks its "just like software". It isn't,
Granted.
>and never will be.
Famous last words.
Granted.
>and never will be.
Famous last words.
> the cost of founding a biotech startup is dropping precipitously. If current trends continue, biotech companies will soon be founded in garages, funded off their founders’ credit cards.
> A smart software developer can build and launch a web or mobile app and get paying customers for under $2,000.
Trivial marginal cost to start a company is a disruptive triumph for sure, financially supporting the founders basic human needs is now the primary obstacle. And of course he that hath wife and children have given hostages to great fortune.
Having no full time employment responsibilities on your horizon is the greatest boost in cognitive and creative power I have ever experienced. I made a mad dash to get a hardware product built and funded before my small savings stash was depleted, but missed the mark.
I had to go back and get a job so that the mission could continue. Going back to solving other peoples problems feels like a lobotomy.
The distraction of full time employment is immense and soul crushing. I was living in a house of science and beautiful innovation, and I hit a brick wall. But of course to paraphrase Russel Brand, god and a lack of liquidity is my enemy, just obstacles to clamber over and damage to route around.
Luckily my product is something people want and get excited about and now that I've proven it works seed funding is now on the way, but goddamn what a bummer running out of runway is.
When the world wakes up and humans get over their miserly aversion to sharing, and realize a guaranteed basic minimum income is in their own enlightened self-interest we will really cross the threshold and reach the innovation singularity.
> A smart software developer can build and launch a web or mobile app and get paying customers for under $2,000.
Trivial marginal cost to start a company is a disruptive triumph for sure, financially supporting the founders basic human needs is now the primary obstacle. And of course he that hath wife and children have given hostages to great fortune.
Having no full time employment responsibilities on your horizon is the greatest boost in cognitive and creative power I have ever experienced. I made a mad dash to get a hardware product built and funded before my small savings stash was depleted, but missed the mark.
I had to go back and get a job so that the mission could continue. Going back to solving other peoples problems feels like a lobotomy.
The distraction of full time employment is immense and soul crushing. I was living in a house of science and beautiful innovation, and I hit a brick wall. But of course to paraphrase Russel Brand, god and a lack of liquidity is my enemy, just obstacles to clamber over and damage to route around.
Luckily my product is something people want and get excited about and now that I've proven it works seed funding is now on the way, but goddamn what a bummer running out of runway is.
When the world wakes up and humans get over their miserly aversion to sharing, and realize a guaranteed basic minimum income is in their own enlightened self-interest we will really cross the threshold and reach the innovation singularity.
Stuff like this is what makes one ponder citizen wage as something other than a flight of fancy.
I think culturally, and perhaps it's generational as a Millennial but I doubt that[1], I think culturally we have to ask ourselves why people work? I don't have enough information to state this factually, hopefully if someone does they'll chime in but maybe the reasons we wake up and go to work are changing.
If we are moving towards a society where we look more for meaning than for money we can very easily come to the conclusion that basic income wouldn't break the economy, but bolster it. Instead of doing menial labor to pay bills we'd try harder to find our way as artists, engineers and other specialized trades that offer fulfillment. Certainly some people will use their basic income to avoid work, but what is the percentage of that? I don't know many people who embrace boredom. Most people want to do something of value, and many people need to do something of value.
We are either approaching a reality we as humans have always wanted or shifting our societies desires depending on historical information(that I don't have).
Inching closer and closer to post-scarcity will be very interesting indeed.
[1]I don't think Millennial's are all that special even if we think we are.
If we are moving towards a society where we look more for meaning than for money we can very easily come to the conclusion that basic income wouldn't break the economy, but bolster it. Instead of doing menial labor to pay bills we'd try harder to find our way as artists, engineers and other specialized trades that offer fulfillment. Certainly some people will use their basic income to avoid work, but what is the percentage of that? I don't know many people who embrace boredom. Most people want to do something of value, and many people need to do something of value.
We are either approaching a reality we as humans have always wanted or shifting our societies desires depending on historical information(that I don't have).
Inching closer and closer to post-scarcity will be very interesting indeed.
[1]I don't think Millennial's are all that special even if we think we are.
Because working ensures that you're doing something that is useful to someone else.
"Most people want to do something of value."
A universal basic income is kind of this wierd bourgeois selfish projection wrapped in this veneer of being altruistic: To be 'freed to do whatever one prefers' is really saying "I want to do what I want, regardless of whether or not it's socially beneficial".
The wierd thing about free markets is that although one can be selfish and money-grubbing, even the most mendacious and stingy person must do something in the service of another to accrue capital.
"Most people want to do something of value."
A universal basic income is kind of this wierd bourgeois selfish projection wrapped in this veneer of being altruistic: To be 'freed to do whatever one prefers' is really saying "I want to do what I want, regardless of whether or not it's socially beneficial".
The wierd thing about free markets is that although one can be selfish and money-grubbing, even the most mendacious and stingy person must do something in the service of another to accrue capital.
> The wierd thing about free markets is that although one can be selfish and money-grubbing, even the most mendacious and stingy person must do something in the service of another to accrue capital.
And the failure mode of that is people ending up doing things in service on someone else that do a net damage to society, while other people do something in service of someone else to undo the work of the first group. Not to mention people stuck in positive feedback loops that waste increasing amount of resources on cancelling each other out. See marketing for a good example.
Just because something is useful to someone, doesn't mean it should be done.
And the failure mode of that is people ending up doing things in service on someone else that do a net damage to society, while other people do something in service of someone else to undo the work of the first group. Not to mention people stuck in positive feedback loops that waste increasing amount of resources on cancelling each other out. See marketing for a good example.
Just because something is useful to someone, doesn't mean it should be done.
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My argument is that people will desire valuable labor because well, we already do. We prefer being valuable to boredom.
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> And of course he that hath wife and children have given hostages to great fortune.
Applies a little less than usual to biochem PhD students ;)
Applies a little less than usual to biochem PhD students ;)
I love that line! But I think a PhD student has it bad, if not worse -- the entrepreneur can watch her venture go under, and then rejoin the labor force with valuable experience and better compensation. The PhD student is locked into finishing her degree at the least, possibly aiming for a postdoc. That's a different kind of hostage to great fortune: your current wealth.
> Going back to solving other peoples problems feels like a lobotomy.
I've never heard it put quite so eloquently before! You really hit the nail on the head there. Hope you don't mind if I "borrow" that phrase...
I've never heard it put quite so eloquently before! You really hit the nail on the head there. Hope you don't mind if I "borrow" that phrase...
The incentives here have been changing in favor of progress and the breaking down of the life science academic priesthood for years, but this piece omits a very important part of the landscape, which is regulation and the present state of law.
People in the diybio community are justifiably very cautious about what they say and do, as there is there very real threat of getting thrown in jail for no real reason other than they have a lab. The war on drugs on one hand and hysteria about terrorism on the other have done a great deal to make it risky to do home life science work. Beyond that regulation makes it hard to impossible to do near anything useful with animal tissues on a garage hacking basis, and if you're not improving the state of medicine, what's the point, really? Might as well build a cat webapp if your horizon is limited to glowing plants.
So there is a lot of tension here between what is possible and what is permitted. That has been an issue in early stage research for decades now, and has cost uncounted lives and years of progress. This is just the stage in which that becomes more apparent as more people could, in theory, participate.
People in the diybio community are justifiably very cautious about what they say and do, as there is there very real threat of getting thrown in jail for no real reason other than they have a lab. The war on drugs on one hand and hysteria about terrorism on the other have done a great deal to make it risky to do home life science work. Beyond that regulation makes it hard to impossible to do near anything useful with animal tissues on a garage hacking basis, and if you're not improving the state of medicine, what's the point, really? Might as well build a cat webapp if your horizon is limited to glowing plants.
So there is a lot of tension here between what is possible and what is permitted. That has been an issue in early stage research for decades now, and has cost uncounted lives and years of progress. This is just the stage in which that becomes more apparent as more people could, in theory, participate.
> and if you're not improving the state of medicine, what's the point, really?
There are tons of applications not related to medicine in any way. Replace "bio" with "nano" (the former being a particular implementation of the latter) to see them.
There are tons of applications not related to medicine in any way. Replace "bio" with "nano" (the former being a particular implementation of the latter) to see them.
Bolt Threads [1] just received $30m in funding. There is nothing therapeutic about their business.
[1] http://boltthreads.com/
[1] http://boltthreads.com/
From someone who works in the biotech industry, this is utter rubbish. Most good ideas in biopharma are wrong and don't work. You don't get to really test them out in a meaningful way until you get into human clinical trials. It costs 10's to 100's of millions of dollars to get there. No matter what you do in your garage, it's going to take lots of capitol and hard work before there's a glimmer of hope of a sale-able product... and even then it's just a glimmer. Comparing biotech to IT is just stupid, despite a few superficial similarities.
With a formal education in biology, I've always thought the industry was much like the computer industry a few decades ago. Jobs & Gates arguably took something that was limited to corporations and Universities, and brought it to the masses. It's a matter of time before there's a startup that revolutionizes something from their garage. Just think where we were before PCR was around, imagine what's next? With open source tools, OpenWetWare, etc, it's lowering the barriers to entry. Who says it's restricted to pharma and human clinical trials? There's plenty of room for innovation in many other areas (GMOs, synthetic bio, methods, tools).
Plus, Bill Gates (loosely) agrees. [0]
[0]: http://ideas.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/30/heres-to-you-biolo...
Plus, Bill Gates (loosely) agrees. [0]
[0]: http://ideas.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/30/heres-to-you-biolo...
The difference in biotech is that you have very little room for mistakes. In most cases (at least the ones that really matter) you have patients to deal with, not users which is a different target group. It bears a different kind of responsibility.
I don't think you're the first person to have this vision, and most all bio-entrepreneurs I've spoken too felt this way at some point. Right now there's quite a gulf between the technology we have and the masses' utility for it.
While I have never gotten use out of OpenWetWare's wiki of loosely edited protocols, I could see companies with the nonprofit mindset of Addgene paving the way for that visionary future.
While I have never gotten use out of OpenWetWare's wiki of loosely edited protocols, I could see companies with the nonprofit mindset of Addgene paving the way for that visionary future.
But actually, the more I think about it, I enjoy your analogy. The missing tools for sure in "DIYbio" are consumer-oriented lab technologies. Something like a 3D printer for budding biologists to gather themselves around...but nothing really comes to mind. Even a homebrew qPCR machine or sequencing platform leaves out many cruicial components like incubators, ultracentrifuges, etc. Can't even get started on mass spectrometers, flow cytometers or other "Core" technologies that not even every lab can own.
To stretch the analogy more, though, I don't think there is a "Homebrew Biotech Club" in the same groovy, sharing sense than that which Jobs and Gates had way back when.
To stretch the analogy more, though, I don't think there is a "Homebrew Biotech Club" in the same groovy, sharing sense than that which Jobs and Gates had way back when.
While I agree with you with health-related biotech, not all biotech is in this area. There are quite a number of industrial uses for biotech that would not require the extensive testing and validation required for drugs.
Examples might be isolating novel enzymes for biocatalysis from the vast microbiome that remains to be explored, novelty decorative plants, etc...
Examples might be isolating novel enzymes for biocatalysis from the vast microbiome that remains to be explored, novelty decorative plants, etc...
Your examples are intriguing, but I wonder precisely how much they would cost. "Enzyme isolation" means a suite of biology tools, which you could store in a garage, but aren't cheap like a laptop, server, internet connection or AWS might be.
Thinking to the most basic biology research I know, that's got to be at least $25,000 to get started. And as a scientist I don't know how much I'd trust results from someone's unregulated garage.
That said, I once heard a legent that the founder of New England Biolabs sold the first restriction enzymes out of a cooler in the trunk of his car in the 70s. I wonder if they were produced in a garage, too?
Thinking to the most basic biology research I know, that's got to be at least $25,000 to get started. And as a scientist I don't know how much I'd trust results from someone's unregulated garage.
That said, I once heard a legent that the founder of New England Biolabs sold the first restriction enzymes out of a cooler in the trunk of his car in the 70s. I wonder if they were produced in a garage, too?
Enzyme isolation might be tricky, and unpredictable, but the equipment isn't particularly expensive. You can buy top-of the range equipment from various suppliers, or literally build it yourself. You could build a system like ÄKTA [0] yourself if you have a minimum of engineering knowledge. Or share a second-hand version with some other "biohackers".
The advantage that a bio-hacker might have, though, is in the ability to patent novel proteins or processes, and then trade those for further investment. The time-to-market for novel biological processes/inventions is far too long to expect a significant first mover advantage without significant financial backing and IP protection.
[0]http://www.gelifesciences.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/cata...
The advantage that a bio-hacker might have, though, is in the ability to patent novel proteins or processes, and then trade those for further investment. The time-to-market for novel biological processes/inventions is far too long to expect a significant first mover advantage without significant financial backing and IP protection.
[0]http://www.gelifesciences.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/cata...
I think equating biotech with medicine is an error, made here both by the article and by commenters. Yes, it's true that most ideas in biopharma don't work, they require superexpensive trials to figure out which are worth anything, that you have tons of expensive tests to pass and licenses to acquire before anyone lets you give your product to people.
But biology is not just medicine. Life itself is an advanced nanotechnology that was not build by us, and that we don't control yet. Replace "biotech" with "nanotech" and suddenly, whole other fields of potential applications appear, many of which may not (yet) require the amount of testing and care you need when dealing with patients.
Obvious areas include manufacturing and chemistry. We already genetically modify organisms to produce chemicals we need. There are people working on reprogramming bacteria and viruses to fabricate nanostructures for better batteries and solar panels. Recently on iGEM a team of students designed bacteria that can extract rare earth metals from the soil. There are many other potential fields - grown textiles, biofilters, materials that regenerate (potentially cutting down infrastructure maintenance costs), computational matter...
I wouldn't discard the DIYBio movement just like that. There are many areas in which it could shine.
But biology is not just medicine. Life itself is an advanced nanotechnology that was not build by us, and that we don't control yet. Replace "biotech" with "nanotech" and suddenly, whole other fields of potential applications appear, many of which may not (yet) require the amount of testing and care you need when dealing with patients.
Obvious areas include manufacturing and chemistry. We already genetically modify organisms to produce chemicals we need. There are people working on reprogramming bacteria and viruses to fabricate nanostructures for better batteries and solar panels. Recently on iGEM a team of students designed bacteria that can extract rare earth metals from the soil. There are many other potential fields - grown textiles, biofilters, materials that regenerate (potentially cutting down infrastructure maintenance costs), computational matter...
I wouldn't discard the DIYBio movement just like that. There are many areas in which it could shine.
What the author is describing is two separate trends.
One trend relates to the rapidly dropping cost of genetic studies -- this leads to easier and cheaper identification of human mutations, novel microbial species, comparative genomics, etc.
The other trend is for outsourcing of specific biological experiments to what used to be called "contract research organizations" (CROs) and now are "startups". The "silicon valley company" "Mousera" referred to seems to be one of these re-branded CROs. This particular trend has been encouraged by the flight of experienced scientists from the rapidly contracting amount of basic research performed in Big Pharma (check the resumes of those involved).
While this combination makes it easier for a "virtual company" to get off the ground, it does not really equate to the sort of startup that the software industry is familiar with -- it might be more similar to hardware startups (though that's not my field, so feel free to correct.)
As to costs, the cost of genetics will continue to drop, but the outsourcing of experiments will not render them any cheaper than before (most likely), as the neo-CROs also want to profit.
One trend relates to the rapidly dropping cost of genetic studies -- this leads to easier and cheaper identification of human mutations, novel microbial species, comparative genomics, etc.
The other trend is for outsourcing of specific biological experiments to what used to be called "contract research organizations" (CROs) and now are "startups". The "silicon valley company" "Mousera" referred to seems to be one of these re-branded CROs. This particular trend has been encouraged by the flight of experienced scientists from the rapidly contracting amount of basic research performed in Big Pharma (check the resumes of those involved).
While this combination makes it easier for a "virtual company" to get off the ground, it does not really equate to the sort of startup that the software industry is familiar with -- it might be more similar to hardware startups (though that's not my field, so feel free to correct.)
As to costs, the cost of genetics will continue to drop, but the outsourcing of experiments will not render them any cheaper than before (most likely), as the neo-CROs also want to profit.
there's a reason these companies are startups not CRO's, because they are applying technology to solve problems and that means they can grow fast. Outsourcing costs are falling fast for the same reasons that hardware startups costs are falling: software eating the world. In this case a convergence of automation/internet of things technologies with lab technologies means lower cost experiments, more leverage from researchers (code once and anyone can reuse your code) etc.
You're correct that specific technologies can drive a small company (Heptares in the UK [0] -- springs to mind). Mostly, though they are business-to-business, rather than the typical view of startups.
[0]http://www.heptares.com/
[0]http://www.heptares.com/
Software eating the world? In pharma??? At the end of the day it's still chemists in labs preparing compounds that are then put through assays and clinical trials.
It's Wall Street eating science, that's all.
It's Wall Street eating science, that's all.
Biohackers were among the first hackers. In thatched stables and open fields. Thousands of years ago. (Although it's true the potential scope has grown considerably...)
It's great that the tools and services the article mentions are out there but I think the author misses the wide gulf there is between limits of what can be done in a garage or shared lab and the resources, time and capital to do things like synthetic biology and drug discovery.
It would be interesting to see where the DIY biotech movement could apply the biotech research tools and methods to where people are already doing home "biohacking". Could home brewers and fermenters gain insight into what's going on inside their jars? Maybe small scale farmers would be interested in quantifying the bacteria in their soil. Larger brewers are already using PCR to check for spoilers in their beer, could this be turned in to BaaS (Biology as a Service) and expanded, or trickled down to the home brewer?
It would be interesting to see where the DIY biotech movement could apply the biotech research tools and methods to where people are already doing home "biohacking". Could home brewers and fermenters gain insight into what's going on inside their jars? Maybe small scale farmers would be interested in quantifying the bacteria in their soil. Larger brewers are already using PCR to check for spoilers in their beer, could this be turned in to BaaS (Biology as a Service) and expanded, or trickled down to the home brewer?
BaaS, hah! The rest of the world calls 'em CROs :)
In theory, one could develop a CRO for DIY biologists, but I just wonder how many of them there actually are. We've made comments downpage about releasing biology to the masses like Jobs and Gates did with their PCs and operating systems...but it really feels like something is missing. The passion of the Homebrew Computing Club? The public's aversion to science, or maybe its short attention span for failed experiments?
In theory, one could develop a CRO for DIY biologists, but I just wonder how many of them there actually are. We've made comments downpage about releasing biology to the masses like Jobs and Gates did with their PCs and operating systems...but it really feels like something is missing. The passion of the Homebrew Computing Club? The public's aversion to science, or maybe its short attention span for failed experiments?
Yeah, BaaS :-), but what CRO would take on those type of jobs when they can't charge what they do for clinical trials or drug discovery.
I'm not sure how much interest there is either and I agree that something is missing. Maybe affordable kits similar to how PCs became more accessible to the masses as IC prices came down. Maybe bringing modern scientific equipment in to school biology classes to expand public knowledge beyond test tubes and bunsen burners.
I'm not sure how much interest there is either and I agree that something is missing. Maybe affordable kits similar to how PCs became more accessible to the masses as IC prices came down. Maybe bringing modern scientific equipment in to school biology classes to expand public knowledge beyond test tubes and bunsen burners.
A negative area to avoid in the discussion would be the computing analogy that having computing as a hobby is a complete waste of time because a brand new CPU fab line costs in the billions and uses all kinds of non-garage compatible toxic chemicals, or the standard automotive analogy that no one can or should be a gearhead because so few living rooms have space for a supercomputer cluster to do finite element analysis and fluid dynamics simulations.
I predict long term that bio will be much like electronics or ham radio where the population drops by maybe half at each tier or level, but there sure are a lot of people at lower levels of the hobby...
I predict long term that bio will be much like electronics or ham radio where the population drops by maybe half at each tier or level, but there sure are a lot of people at lower levels of the hobby...
1. Biology usually doesn't work. Even the simplest wet-lab reactions take very exacting conditions to work. This requires precise, expensive, equipment and endless optimization of protocols. The result is a tremendous drain on resources to get what usually amounts to a negative result
2. Bio is inherently perishable. You can't let a start-up project linger as you chip away at it for 3 years. Reagents expire, lab-cultures will mutate, equipment rusts/breakdowns/gets contaminated for stupid unforeseeable reasons.
3. There is a stupidly large legal burden if you ever want to commercialize. At every step of the process the USDA, EPA, FDA, and patent office have rules and regulations to slow you down. It might take decades to take a product from the lab to the store self, if it gets there at all.
Bio isn't computing. As a geneticist, I've seen it a hundred times where some start-up know-it-all walks into the biotech field and thinks its "just like software". It isn't, and never will be.