There was, literally, nothing beyond the text at 9600 baud. Identity and purpose and intention of content generators were permanently undecipherable in those days. You could only take things as they were presented to maintain sanity and causality.
If they want talent, make them pay taxes for the school systems that generate said talent instead of relying on the heavily subsidized educations other nation's taxes pay for.
If they need new ideas, pretend the other half of the country exists and solve their problems.
All they are doing is sucking the top talent out of nations that need them the most.
14 mentions of Trump. 8 mentions of Bush. 2 mentions of Reagan.
vs.
10 wistful mentions of Hillary Clinton being the better choice. 4 mentions of Obama. 1 mention of Bill Clinton expanding ECHELON.
Obama had 8 years building and using it this entire apparatus, after 8 years of Bush putting it into place after 9/11. Trump had been taking it for a test drive over the past 2 weeks.
Can we please rename HN to "Silicon Valley and Democrats Only" so lurkers know what they are getting into?
I've been having this argument for decades and I've been called every name in the book, been doxexd, and have had my livelihood threatened multiple times by your fellow sacred cow worshippers.
My aggression is preemptive because I know how the conversation always ends, no matter what tone is taken: The sacred cow worshippers swarms, and the heretic is destroyed. This is how this conversation ALWAYS pans out.
Always. Without exception.
So, If I'm going to get destroyed no matter how this plays out, consider my aggression an indicator that I firmly intend to attack back if you engage in mimetic hostility.
Now, with that said: here's how you end the slave/native arbitrage:
- Set minimum wage between $25-$40 an hour.
- Fix the H1B system so it stops acting as corporate welfare in the form of the cheapest labor of least resistance.
- Allow farm workers to unionize
- Loosen up commercial/industrial restrictions on housing projects and poor areas in proximity of gentrified areas and allow them to produce and manufacture goods and services to sell directly to the newly gentrified locations.
- Raise taxes on corporations who rely on an external workforce.
- Raise interest rates and force the popping of the Silicon Valley bubble AND give incentive for municipal bonds to experiment with binding autonomous labor to harvesting, mining, and construction, forcing Silicon Valley to chase actual profits in the countryside instead of filter bubble valuation within the SV circlejerk. (AKA take off the training wheels)
The order and timing of these events is a matter of political theatre, but each one of these will inevitably make cheap brown people just as expensive as natives, which will end the ridiculous moral conflations Western liberalism heavily relies on... moral conflations that cause and exacerbate modern resentment.
And for the record, the ability of your sacred cows to kill heretics is ending.
> You are conflating economic neoliberalism with social liberalism.
I agree it appears I'm making this conflation. But
> nobody is pretending that they are:
Is not an honest statement. Any attempt to make cheap brown labor more expensive through legislation (See the Trump protests) or even by IMPROVING their quality of life (See gentrification) is instantly fought off as racist. The powers that be have deeply merged international currency flow with Western liberal morality after the 1940s and use their sacred cows as hostages to stifle any threats to their power.
Every single thing you touched (And every single thing connected to what you touched) to type that statement was made overseas.
Welcome to the international system of currency and labor arbitrage, a core prerequisite for any democratic experiment. Democracy has ALWAYS and WILL always require slaves.
> Make cheap brown people as expensive as Western natives
And he says "That's a criticism, not a proposal"
Supporters of Western liberalism LITERALLY cannot detect alternative proposals, even when you put it immediately in their face. Even when you spell it out to them. They're just too high on sacred cows and moral supremacy.
It's just those who have benefited from this arrangement the most happen to also control the relationships that power mass media, which is then used to undermine alternative solutions as "racist", "sexist" and "evil" with no evidence whatsoever and immediately engage in mob swarming and plebeian intimidation.
For example: Western Liberalism absolutely requires cheap brown people. (And that deep reliance ABSOLUTELY makes supporters of Western liberalism completely racist) If you make cheap brown people as expensive as Western natives, why do you need cheap brown people? And if you have "good-enough" AI, why do you need either?
I herald from the Markhams. My British ancestor, Daniel, has came to America in the 1600s from Britain as an indentured servant who later became a preacher. During the revolution, one member of my family was a constable for John Hancock and the other was an officer in British Navy.
Daniel owned a slave named Sampson. When Daniel died, Sampson was given his freedom.
My German side came here during the Post-Napoloean/Pre-Bismarck Liberal/National conflict that destabilized the country side.
My Irish side came here during the Land War, in which the Irish got screwed out of their farm improvements tax credit by the British which resulted in widespread farm bankruptcy, and eventually mass starvation.
I think I have Spanish (American Spanish) as well, but that history is a bit foggy.
There's even scandalous mention of one of my direct ancestors being an illegitimate child of Cromwell!
Testing for shadowban.