Agree about Graal being really good. there are some different use cases for embedding wasm in an application. chicory / endive is not just for embedding another language. the main use case was always secure plugin-systems. but there are other use cases. also it's not controlled by Oracle and works well outside of their ecosystem, which i think some people value. this question came up a few times and were addressed in talks and blog articles:
the "redline" compiler is cranelift which is written in rust, but i think it's being compiled to Wasm first then JVM bytecode so it still works zero dependency. not sure if that will continue to be the case.
if i understand correctly, the new redline compiler doesn't have these limitations. it's not based on asm. (edit: but this hasn't been merged to mainline yet)
Just wanted to chime in to say this is really cool. I dreamed of building something like this for the Extism ecosystem but it was a huge lift to unlock all the pieces. This looks like lots of innovation all the way down the stack. Kudos!
Hack night is the generic networking meetup at the rusty nail. It's way more casual. No presentations or organizing. below-c-level and frontend party are generally more organized and have talks. All the meetups happen before (and geographically near) to hack night on the same night. So you can generally do both. See a meetup then walk to the bar with everyone for the networking event.
Speaking of community, there is a really nice little tech community going strong in New Orleans that I think reflects the culture talked about here. If you are ever in town you should stop by an event https://www.noladevs.org/.
Feel free to reach out to me if you want some intros.
This is the first i've heard of people using the SSE transport locally. What purpose what that serve? Is this by design because the chrome extension could not talk to it otherwise?
BTW, you should really run your MCP servers in a sandboxed environment, esp if they don't need to do things like `exec` or read from the filesystem. We do this with the https://mcp.run ecosystem by wrapping them in wasm. Because they are wasm you could also run them right in the chrome extension!
I'm not sure where they congregate, but I've encountered some minecraft people using chicory probably for this purpose. IDK how minecrafts plugins currently work but i'd imagine chicory is more secure and the overhead may be worth it for some cases.
Glad you appreciate it! On top of being a Java joke it’s an homage to my home, New Orleans. We still drink coffee with chicory here due to some events during the civil war and then a changed cultural taste. Though the history in this isn’t exactly clear I think https://neworleanshistorical.org/items/show/1393
Even in interpreter mode, rust wasm programs seem very fast for me on Chicory. I'm not sure if we have any specific benchmarks but the graal team did some and i think it's based on a rust guest program https://chicory.dev/blog/chicory-1.0.0/#the-race-day
WASI does open up some holes you should be considerate of. But it's still much safer than other implementations. We don't allow you direct access to the FS we use jimfs: https://github.com/google/jimfs
I typically recommend people don't allow wasm plugins to talk to the filesystem though, unless they really need to read some things from disk like a python interpreter. You don't usually need to.
https://github.com/dylibso/chicory#on-the-press