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sorcerer-mar
·12개월 전·discuss
Grievance politics amplified by an assembly of the most astoundingly dumb people you’ve ever seen behind a podium

That’s it! That’s the strategy!
sorcerer-mar
·작년·discuss
That's fair feedback! I struggled to tamp down on a snarkier response that read more like: "I am a direct beneficiary of one side of this debate. If we are to be intellectually honest then we need to be sure to cast as much skepticism as we can muster onto the other side."

Agreed though, earnestness is one of our most urgent shortages.
sorcerer-mar
·작년·discuss
Thank you for your unbiased opinion shedding objective light on this incident and reporting. You have brought forth excellent evidence for dismissing this evidence.

Anyway, some more history to consider: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2017-11-17/ty-article/.p...
sorcerer-mar
·작년·discuss
The parent comment says it flies in the face of the US IC's holistic assessment of Iran's efforts. Which it does.
sorcerer-mar
·작년·discuss
Big if true: you cannot use incentives to mitigate other incentives!
sorcerer-mar
·작년·discuss
Being able to produce weapons grade uranium != producing weapons grade uranium. It's not that complicated.

And yes, in an alternative universe where delivery systems also just appear out of nowhere, you could sprinkle a million tons of 1% uranium over a city.
sorcerer-mar
·작년·discuss
Yep! Negotiation.
sorcerer-mar
·작년·discuss
Excellent case in point
sorcerer-mar
·작년·discuss
It definitely is not. The gulf in support between US politicians and the US public is wider than it ever has been. That's not sustainable in the long run (it is probably a notable factor already in the loss of the Dems' presidential candidate [among many others, of course])
sorcerer-mar
·작년·discuss
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sorcerer-mar
·작년·discuss
> only means you haven’t finished or intend to use something else for the initial stage

So in other words it’s not weapons grade?
sorcerer-mar
·작년·discuss
Which still, astonishingly, does not make it weapons grade.
sorcerer-mar
·작년·discuss
Ah yes, alongside the weapons grade steel and weapons grade copper.
sorcerer-mar
·작년·discuss
Yeah IMO the last 2 years (and especially 5 hours) have pretty much permanently shattered Israel's privileged child status in the US. Their actions in Gaza have fractured leftwing support, and dragging the US into this war have fractured rightwing support.

Hope they're building other friendships in the region, I don't see the unquestioning US patronage lasting much longer.
sorcerer-mar
·작년·discuss
I get the feeling you're willfully playing dumb, but to take it step by step:

Now, after having proven that deals mean nothing both in Ukraine and Iran, the only sensible move is to develop nuclear weapons.

Prior to us having broken both of these deals, there was a believable argument for the US being an honest broker who can ensure security in lieu of you having your own nuclear weapons.

> Except there never was any plan or idea on how to get another deal

What do you mean? You do the same thing again: economic normalization for non-proliferation.
sorcerer-mar
·작년·discuss
Breakout time was not reduced lol. You have a deal, then you get another deal, then you get another deal.

"I just got a 1 year discount with a vendor"

The wise man lowered his head and muttered: "No, you have earned a price increase in 12 months."

> They could just give up.

Which makes literally no sense, as we are seeing. The only sensible move for any country is to develop a nuclear weapon as quickly and secretly as possible.
sorcerer-mar
·작년·discuss
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sorcerer-mar
·작년·discuss
> which is hardly nonproliferation work.

Except for the part that it reduced proliferation, reduced stockpiles, and dramatically increased breakout time...? You think a workable solution is to just keep a country perpetually impoverished so it never even has the money required to learn how to enrich?

You don't understand the logic of nuclear weapons, do you?

As Ali Bhutto said: "We will eat grass, even go hungry, but we will get our own [nuclear weapon].... We have no other choice!”

> Well, yeah, bombing Libya was a huge error, so you end up between a bad deal and bombings

Say more. What's the relevance?
sorcerer-mar
·작년·discuss
You'd be wrong. Iran actively got rid of nearly all of its stockpile under the JCPOA.

10,000kg down to 300.

Clearly that was all for nothing, so no country will ever agree to a similar deal ever again. The deal worked great. Bibi and Trump failed.