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Bitcoiner Saifedean Ammous vs. Nassim N. Taleb (2021)

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5 points·by throwawash·4년 전·1 comments

Alcohol-based mouthwash as a risk factor of oral cancer (2020)

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3 points·by throwawash·4년 전·0 comments

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throwawash
·4년 전·discuss
Yes, exactly. The statement contradicts the author's position that is "exceedingly unlikely" to be a cause of oral cancer. Taken together with the medical consensus that alcohol itself is a considered to be a cause of oral cancer I have to wonder why anyone would be completely surprised by the conclusion that alcoholic mouthwash also increases the risk of cancer.
throwawash
·4년 전·discuss
I'll trust second-hand info received from Sloan Kettering oral cancer specialists instead, thank you.

Also:

"Alcohol-based mouthwash as a risk factor of oral cancer"

[0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6982979/
throwawash
·4년 전·discuss
You can't make some of this stuff up.

>Bitcoin's decentralized nature makes it impossible for anyone, even governments, to fully kill it.

Can the government kill any shitcoin really? Hell, Luna is trading at $0.0001. Therefore, it is not dead! Therefore Luna is the future!

>Furthermore, the cat's out of the bag, so to speak. In the US, several members of congress already own bitcoin, and the list of elected (and unelected) officials who take pro-bitcoin stances publicly is getting longer.

Since some powerful peoples' salary depends on them not understanding bitcoin critiques, bitcoin is the future!

>Additionally, adoption of bitcoin and cryptoassets continues to grow rapidly.

I'm going to try you to get you to invest in bitcoin by telling you lots of people are investing in bitcoin!
throwawash
·4년 전·discuss
>Enough for Taleb to write a foreword for him (although I suspect that was motivated by their ethnic common origins and less so by the rigor in the book)

Ironic since nowadays Taleb seems to enjoy trolling bitcoiners.
throwawash
·4년 전·discuss
>If your car breaks down, you won't let it get fixed right now but next month because it's cheaper?

Which car? The one I don't have because I'm saving to buy two next year? You're changing the example I gave into something else entirely. If you're saying that drastically reducing or eliminating the purchase of everything that is not absolutely essential to have won't be bad for the economy, or if it is, it won't be bad for society in the long term -- then say that.

>> If know I can use the same money to buy two cars next year instead of buying a car this year, I will not buy a car this year.

>You sure?

Yes. (I lived someplace where there was a ridiculous price markup for electronic goods. I needed a new phone and laptop but I refused to buy them because of the ridiculous prices. Then the currency crashed a year later and I immediately bought them by exchanging US dollars before they could markup the prices or pause sales. I ended up getting them for less than the US price incidentally. Otherwise I would have waited until the old ones were preventing me from doing essential tasks. This is same for cars.)

"People consume because there's a limitless desire to consume" he says. And when Fridman calls him on it, he says yes well people economize due to constraints no matter what.

>same money, next year worth 2x is dramatically exaggerated.

Well yes that’s the point. aren’t we talking about a bitcoin economy in the end after all? If a transition from fiat to bitcoin standard starts happening, this is the path its going to take until the price stabilizes, no? People doubled their money in half a year in 2021 after all.

EDIT: his odd comment that he is migrating from anarchism towards supporting benign dictatorships doesn't exact endear him either.
throwawash
·4년 전·discuss
hmm, no government in the world supports his thesis I guess. From what I understand of his position: deflational currency is the best type of currency. Any inflation is bad etc. The reason governments create inflation is to keep population poor and control them I guess?

Putting aside the weird trash-talking of status quo economists, in order to evaluate the correctness of his position, I would have to do way too much homework.

His prediction of human behavior under a deflational currency though does raise some flags. He says people will buy stuff regardless. If know I can use the same money to buy two cars next year instead of buying a car this year, I will not buy a car this year. He seems to say I will.
throwawash
·4년 전·discuss
Where can I read their points of view? Can you provide some links by any chance?
throwawash
·4년 전·discuss
And why pray tell, should I disregard cancer specialists at Sloan Kettering telling this guy's entire family not to use mouthwash?

Many available common mouthwash still contain alcohol. Alcohol's causal effect on oral cancer is rarely disputed in medical circles.

If ample clinical studies are absent, science does in fact rely on reason time to time in the interim.

[0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6982979/
throwawash
·4년 전·discuss
If mouthwash has harmful ingredients keeping it in your mouth for a prolonged duration and spitting it out instead of drinking it will not solve your problems, contrary to the quoted line.

If an patient who is an outlier exhibits an extreme habit related to the affected cancerous organ, it seems advisable to take note even if it is possible there are undiscovered more serious contributing factors.
throwawash
·4년 전·discuss
>Also, uh, don't drink your mouthwash, spit it out.

doesn't cut it for me. someone I know who doesn't smoke or drink and was sub-40 years old got diagnosed with tongue cancer. Cancer specialists were miffed at the cause. The only thing that stood out: he was a meticulous user of mouthwash 3x a day since he was a teenager.