Why Disney World doesn't have mosquitoes(greenmatters.com)
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Why Disney World doesn't have mosquitoes
https://www.greenmatters.com/p/why-no-mosquitoes-disney-world
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I don't think any reasonable person interpreted this as 'will never see even a single mosquito', come on.
The article's title is clickbaity as hell, it should be something like "Why there is less mosquitoes in Disney World than it should" or something like that. "Why Disney World doesn't have mosquitoes" is implying(and wrongfully so) that DW doesn't have mosquitoes. If you want to imply something , then just say it. That meta game of click-baiting people to read your crappy article and then patronizing them because they point it out to you how bad is, is just disgusting and sad.
> The article's title is clickbaity as hell, it should be something like "Why there is less mosquitoes in Disney World than it should".
The actual title has the advantage of a passable resemblance to English grammar and correct usage, and doesn't suggest that a certain nonzero quantity of mosquitoes is to be normatively preferred. More accurate at the expense of being less terse, while not sacrificing those advantages, would be something like “Why Disney World has fewer mosquitoes than might otherwise be expected”.
The actual title has the advantage of a passable resemblance to English grammar and correct usage, and doesn't suggest that a certain nonzero quantity of mosquitoes is to be normatively preferred. More accurate at the expense of being less terse, while not sacrificing those advantages, would be something like “Why Disney World has fewer mosquitoes than might otherwise be expected”.
"Why Disny World has (Almost) No Mosquitoes".
'lacks' or 'is lacking in'
This comment is a good comment. Thanks.
While the title might be hyperbolic, it's not clickbait. A clickbait title is one that misleads or leaves out information in order to trigger your curiosity and get you to click on something you otherwise have no interest in. "You WON'T BELIEVE what actor got cast in this movie!" is a clickbait title. "Why Disney World doesn't have mosquitoes" tells me the article is about Disney World's anti-mosquito measures, and that's what I got from reading it.
No, nobody does. However, there are times you get lots of bites, in stark contrast to the article.
>Considering its location smack-dab in the middle of Florida swamp territory, it’s hard to believe that there are no mosquitoes in Disney World, but trust us, it’s true.
>Considering its location smack-dab in the middle of Florida swamp territory, it’s hard to believe that there are no mosquitoes in Disney World, but trust us, it’s true.
I interpreted it exactly that way. It's phrased that way.
Indeed. It does not seem far-fetched at all that they have a mechanism that could exclude and any all of them.
I would also believe it that there are no African bullfrogs in the park.
I would also believe it that there are no African bullfrogs in the park.
Two of the headlines when you look it up on Google are "Why Are There No Mosquitoes at Disney World?" and "This Is Why You Never See Mosquitoes at Disney World."
"No mosquitoes" and "never" are pretty definitive.
"No mosquitoes" and "never" are pretty definitive.
I would say that Disney's PR team is doing an outstanding job!
I suspect these stories were planted or at least seeded by Disney.
I suspect these stories were planted or at least seeded by Disney.
That's exactly how I interpreted it because that's what they said: they don't have mosquitoes.
I did...
But I was blindsided by my hatred of mosquitos.
But I was blindsided by my hatred of mosquitos.
I could maybe excuse "seeing a single mosquito".
But if supplies of insect repellent are needed, then there's a lot more than that.
Get it to the point where less than 1% of people get bit and we can start to talk about "doesn't have mosquitoes"
But if supplies of insect repellent are needed, then there's a lot more than that.
Get it to the point where less than 1% of people get bit and we can start to talk about "doesn't have mosquitoes"
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Being given insect repellent implies the problem is more than one mosquito here and there
Getting 'a couple' of bites while on a two-week vacation in a tropical swamp counts as effectively zero, to me.
Many people get a few dozen over a long weekend. So, it’s a long way from zero especially when you consider just how many people visit these parks.
They do put in a fair amount of effort. However, a much more effective solution would be to avoid having large bodies of water near people, but that would make the park less visually appealing.
They do put in a fair amount of effort. However, a much more effective solution would be to avoid having large bodies of water near people, but that would make the park less visually appealing.
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I’ve been there multiple times. I’ve never been given repellent. I’ve also never seen a mosquito there. This is the first time that has struck me as odd.
I agree. But it's worth noting that there are anecdotes on the snopes page about people getting "eaten alive" with dozens of bites every time they visit. We already know that mosquitoes are drawn to some people over others for a host of reasons. Maybe these people are the exception. A handful of guests being eaten alive out of millions is virtually zero.
They love my son and I. If you are having an outing and want to draw your mosquitos away invite us. We will be pincushions but your outing will be less mosquito riddled.
Two things I've found that help cut down insect bites in general are to use unscented soap and shampoo, and to wear natural colors (greens, browns, etc, but nothing very bright and not white). Certainly isn't 100% but it seems to help.
I'm not even convinced they have fewer than the rest of Florida.
Most metropolitans in Florida spray, and while you'll still get bites it's generally reasonable as long as you're not off in the woods.
I went to Disney last year and got attacked on the way out (the tram station outside of the park) as bad as I've ever been.
Most metropolitans in Florida spray, and while you'll still get bites it's generally reasonable as long as you're not off in the woods.
I went to Disney last year and got attacked on the way out (the tram station outside of the park) as bad as I've ever been.
> the tram station outside of the park
Which is, as you said, outside the park, so I don't see this anecdote contradicting the original statement. In fact, it even helps to show how much mosquitoes Florida usually has, strengthening the original premise.
Which is, as you said, outside the park, so I don't see this anecdote contradicting the original statement. In fact, it even helps to show how much mosquitoes Florida usually has, strengthening the original premise.
But still Disney property. Not sure where the "World" officially starts...
It starts in our adolescent imaginations /s
> Which is, as you said, outside the park
It's outside of the theme park with the rides but the park itself is expansive.
It's outside of the theme park with the rides but the park itself is expansive.
Time to bring up this timeless piece, once again:
http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html
http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html
I am guessing the point you're making is: this is a PR piece to get people back to Disney World. Would make sense to me, but just clarifying the intent?
It's not PR. It's bloggers blogging for page views by rewriting timeless classics such as these.
They're "blogging" for money:
> Interested in working with us or writing for us? Check out our job listings on LinkedIn, or send your resume and cover letter to [email protected].
About a year ago I clicked through to a Disneyland-related travel article from a similar site suggested by Google News. Since then Google News likes to suggest similar Disney theme park content and it's become abundantly clear that Disney advertising money supports a steady stream of these types of submarine articles.
FWIW, I like Disney theme parks and don't need to be convinced or reminded to visit. And the articles are benign. Plus, it's cool that so many smaller outfits and writers can get a share of Disney's PR budget. It is annoying how many of them there are, but that's mostly Google News' fault for spamming my feed with them.
We can't know for sure if Disney paid anything for this particular article. But there's a strong chance. Compare this article from 9 months ago: https://www.greenmatters.com/p/vegan-options-disney-parks
> Interested in working with us or writing for us? Check out our job listings on LinkedIn, or send your resume and cover letter to [email protected].
About a year ago I clicked through to a Disneyland-related travel article from a similar site suggested by Google News. Since then Google News likes to suggest similar Disney theme park content and it's become abundantly clear that Disney advertising money supports a steady stream of these types of submarine articles.
FWIW, I like Disney theme parks and don't need to be convinced or reminded to visit. And the articles are benign. Plus, it's cool that so many smaller outfits and writers can get a share of Disney's PR budget. It is annoying how many of them there are, but that's mostly Google News' fault for spamming my feed with them.
We can't know for sure if Disney paid anything for this particular article. But there's a strong chance. Compare this article from 9 months ago: https://www.greenmatters.com/p/vegan-options-disney-parks
> No standing water means no ideal spots to lay their eggs. In the ’60s, Potter accomplished this by digging drainage ditches built into the park’s base layers, effectively draining the swamp in its entirety.
Seems like this is the real meat, I wish the article had gone into more detail here.
Seems like this is the real meat, I wish the article had gone into more detail here.
Potter did what politicians could never.
The main gist is to keep the water moving which they do with a combination of levees, aerators, and architecture features designed so water runs off instead of pooling on walkways and buildings.
Then they double down by stocking their water features with fish that particularly like to eat mosquito larvae.
Then the finishing move is using a garlic oil infused spray to drive away the adults.
Then they double down by stocking their water features with fish that particularly like to eat mosquito larvae.
Then the finishing move is using a garlic oil infused spray to drive away the adults.
Aha, the garlic spray explains why the place is crawling with children but relatively few adults in sight. :)
I was wondering why I had the faint taste of garlic bread in my mouth when I was there...
I don't know anything about how Disney does it aside from what I just read in the article, but mosquito fish I think are used in many places to get rid of mosquitoes. Guppies too, sometimes. I'm not sure if either is invasive in Florida.
Mosquito dunks are another approach. Basically, they're floating donut-shaped things that release a bacteria that's specifically harmful to mosquito larvae. That worked really well for me last fall; I had made myself a koi pond, but there weren't any koi for sale at the time and the mosquitoes were only too happy to fill the ecological void.
Mosquito dunks are another approach. Basically, they're floating donut-shaped things that release a bacteria that's specifically harmful to mosquito larvae. That worked really well for me last fall; I had made myself a koi pond, but there weren't any koi for sale at the time and the mosquitoes were only too happy to fill the ecological void.
I think a lot of the industrial scale remediation for mosquitos also impacted the bird population. I have a Mosquito "pond" in the back yard and there is no noticeable increase in Mosquitos, for the most part they all get consumed by birds.
There was an old woman who swallowed a fly and all the got in return was a lifeless terrarium with 100 species we call Earth.
There was an old woman who swallowed a fly and all the got in return was a lifeless terrarium with 100 species we call Earth.
Yikes I thought this was going to be about why Walt Disney "World" (so TV productions) have mosquitoes and I already started imagining something along "it was too annoying to draw/animate mosquitos by hand" in my mind.
Reading about the actual article definitively makes much more sense. I think it is important to also acknowledge the history and importance of eradicating mosquitos for the sake of public health. For example, Italy had to deal with malaria at least until Mussolini. Eventually fully eradicating malaria with a combination of draining wetlands and use of insecticides such as the toxic, child-defect-causing DDT.
It's quite funny to see that they are using chickens as a canary method.
Reading about the actual article definitively makes much more sense. I think it is important to also acknowledge the history and importance of eradicating mosquitos for the sake of public health. For example, Italy had to deal with malaria at least until Mussolini. Eventually fully eradicating malaria with a combination of draining wetlands and use of insecticides such as the toxic, child-defect-causing DDT.
It's quite funny to see that they are using chickens as a canary method.
> Yikes I thought this was going to be about why Walt Disney "World" (so TV productions)
It is about Walt Disney World.
There are two of them. Disney World and Disney Land. This one is in Florida.
It is about Walt Disney World.
There are two of them. Disney World and Disney Land. This one is in Florida.
They thought the article was referring to there being no mosquitoes in the Disney universe stories/canon, but then realized it was about the theme park in Florida.
It's not exactly within the Disney universe, but they did make "The Winged Scourge": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y68F8YwLWdg
And a few more Disney parks throughout the world.
LOL. And insecticides. Lots of them. “ But Disney tries really hard. Crews spray relentlessly. Every morning, every evening.”
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-2002-09-21-02092...
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-2002-09-21-02092...
Lack of standing water, if anyone was wondering.
Yeah not sure about that one: https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2021/07/30/water-par...
I just spent a week next to a swamp. I've never seen so many mosquitoes in my life.
Try Alaska in the summer. They have mosquitos the size of small birds there. Crazy.
And CO2 traps, and hungry chickens and fish.
One of my chores as a kid was clearing out stagnant water in our backyard if it rained; if someone didn’t during peak season, you would immediately notice a massive increase in mosquitoes in the next days.
Disney wages its battles along 86 miles of canals, service roads, firebreaks, power lines, fields and fences. They use the same two pesticides widely sprayed all around Florida that are considered safe by state and federal environmental authorities. Employees spray the same routes twice a day, far exceeding the routines of other mosquito districts in Florida.
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-2002-09-21-02092...
Plus chickens
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-2002-09-21-02092...
Plus chickens
Sentinel chickens at that. So fancy.
They thought they were going to be killing machines that continuously patrol the many sewers and caverns beneath the planet's ruined surface.
Instead they got stuck in a chicken coop waiting to get the West Nile virus.
Instead they got stuck in a chicken coop waiting to get the West Nile virus.
> Why Disney World doesn’t have mosquitos
TFA is actually about HOW Disney World purports to not have mosquitos.
WHY Disney World doesn’t want mosquitos is a different issue.
Disney World is some kind of fantasy expression of an ideal world. For the creators, this means an absence of irritants and an abundance of entertainment, sugar, salt, fat, and merch.
The difference between Disney World and the world is that one is an enclave and the other is a world.
The fact that mosquitos exist in both tells us something about the intelligence of species.
TFA is actually about HOW Disney World purports to not have mosquitos.
WHY Disney World doesn’t want mosquitos is a different issue.
Disney World is some kind of fantasy expression of an ideal world. For the creators, this means an absence of irritants and an abundance of entertainment, sugar, salt, fat, and merch.
The difference between Disney World and the world is that one is an enclave and the other is a world.
The fact that mosquitos exist in both tells us something about the intelligence of species.
I went to Disney World recently. We went to Disney Animal Kingdom, and the Asian section was beautiful, you really almost felt like you were in Nepal...except the lack of incense made it obvious it was all fake. Same goes with Epcot, visually everything clicks, but the smells are all missing.
What is Epcot supposed to smell like? The future?
They have an international pavilion section that does a great job at setting the scene for various parts of the world. At least visually.
Would mosquitos have enhanced the feeling of authenticity or detracted from it?
Maybe enhanced if they were coupled with mosquito repelling incense.
I think there is a corollary to the law of headlines. An article that claims to say “why” something is, only explains how. And an article which claims to say “how” something is, only states that it is.
Except that "How Disney World deals with mosquitos" IS an answer to the "Why" in the headline. "Why Disney World Doesn't Want Mosquitos" is a separate question that has a self-evident answer to anyone who has ever been around a mosquito.
I'm surprised that chickens eat mosquitoes efficiently, seeing as they can't fly much.
All of a sudden I'm having a nostalgia flashback to the early 90's where I'm reading some humorous text doc I'd downloaded from the local BBS regarding the theory of chickens flying at light speed, or something along those lines.
Honestly, I can't quite recall. I've read that before, and can't place whether it was the one I was thinking of or something I read later.
My guess is that the chickens go after the larvae, not the flying adults.
The larvae hatch in water, then molt at the surface which takes a while (during which they can not yet fly). That's probably where the chickens find them.
It's a miracle chickens find such tiny things in sufficient numbers to satisfy their hunger at all.
Although, maybe if we take scale into account, it would be like a human finding sausages in a river or something.
Although, maybe if we take scale into account, it would be like a human finding sausages in a river or something.
You could see these things too if your eyes were regularly 3" off the ground.
This blog post reads like and advertisment because it claims there's no mosquitoes when of course there is and also no mention of pesticides, when you can be sure there is.
Half-joking: the person that will find an effective, low-cost method to repel mosquitoes will become a very rich person.
Nathan Myhrvold tried, but apparently failed [0].
[0]: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/07/laser-shooting-mosqu...
Nathan Myhrvold tried, but apparently failed [0].
[0]: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/07/laser-shooting-mosqu...
Not joking. More desired than a better mousetrap almost everywhere.
'Nathan Myhrvold tried' is relevant to this topic as another example [1] of a submarine story:
> Myhrvold, who has a Ph.D. in theoretical and mathematical physics from Princeton, envisioned Intellectual Ventures as a merchant of ideas [patents], not a producer of products.
> Not everyone appreciated paying for something IV was just sitting on and not “productizing.” The company has often been accused of being a “patent troll,” squatting under the bridge of innovation demanding its tribute to cross; CNET once called it “the most hated company in tech.” Myhrvold defended his patent business in an article he wrote, headlined “Funding Eureka!,” in the Harvard Business Review in 2010, which just so happened to come out the month after his ted Talk on the Photonic Fence. Maybe that wasn’t a total coincidence: Being known as the guy who shoots down malarial mosquitoes with laser beams is, if nothing else, a good way to change the subject.
> The only problem was that if you listened carefully, it became clear that the TED demonstration was a little bit faked. Myhrvold swapped the invisible infrared laser used to fry the bugs in tests at the lab for a cool-looking nonlethal green laser pointer that aimed at a Lucite box of mosquitoes across the stage, targeting them for theoretical death. But, since he knew the audience’s insect bloodlust could not be disappointed, he followed up the nonlethal light show with those slow-motion kill videos of the more carefully stage-managed mosquito target practice filmed at the lab. One of the most vivid images was a close-up of an execution in which the mosquito was, it turns out, glued to a pin, disabling flight, to “control variables.” But the TED talk has now been viewed 847,000 times, and the crowd went wild, so it was easy to get carried away with thinking this was coming out soon. “We didn’t dissuade people from saying it’s ready either,” Makagon admits. “Or communicate with people how long it would take.”
> And so, over the last seven years, “it got lots of attention,” says Myhrvold. “Lots of people who would kick the tires a little bit,” without actually deciding to invest in it.
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28093743
> Myhrvold, who has a Ph.D. in theoretical and mathematical physics from Princeton, envisioned Intellectual Ventures as a merchant of ideas [patents], not a producer of products.
> Not everyone appreciated paying for something IV was just sitting on and not “productizing.” The company has often been accused of being a “patent troll,” squatting under the bridge of innovation demanding its tribute to cross; CNET once called it “the most hated company in tech.” Myhrvold defended his patent business in an article he wrote, headlined “Funding Eureka!,” in the Harvard Business Review in 2010, which just so happened to come out the month after his ted Talk on the Photonic Fence. Maybe that wasn’t a total coincidence: Being known as the guy who shoots down malarial mosquitoes with laser beams is, if nothing else, a good way to change the subject.
> The only problem was that if you listened carefully, it became clear that the TED demonstration was a little bit faked. Myhrvold swapped the invisible infrared laser used to fry the bugs in tests at the lab for a cool-looking nonlethal green laser pointer that aimed at a Lucite box of mosquitoes across the stage, targeting them for theoretical death. But, since he knew the audience’s insect bloodlust could not be disappointed, he followed up the nonlethal light show with those slow-motion kill videos of the more carefully stage-managed mosquito target practice filmed at the lab. One of the most vivid images was a close-up of an execution in which the mosquito was, it turns out, glued to a pin, disabling flight, to “control variables.” But the TED talk has now been viewed 847,000 times, and the crowd went wild, so it was easy to get carried away with thinking this was coming out soon. “We didn’t dissuade people from saying it’s ready either,” Makagon admits. “Or communicate with people how long it would take.”
> And so, over the last seven years, “it got lots of attention,” says Myhrvold. “Lots of people who would kick the tires a little bit,” without actually deciding to invest in it.
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28093743
Personally I'm still waiting for the promised technology that scans the area for mosquitoes (using computer vision) and then takes them out individually with a low power laser.
The main benefit of this seems to be controlling mosquito populations while not bluntly eradicating all bug life (as other traps do) much of which contributes to a healthy ecosystem.
The main benefit of this seems to be controlling mosquito populations while not bluntly eradicating all bug life (as other traps do) much of which contributes to a healthy ecosystem.
That will go well with the Amazin Laser
https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/amazin-laser/2...
https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/amazin-laser/2...
Dr William Gorgas did that for the Panama Canal Zone in 1904. Now that was a big job. 500 square miles of jungle.[1]
[1] https://www.insectweek.co.uk/news/mosquitoes-and-panama-cana...
[1] https://www.insectweek.co.uk/news/mosquitoes-and-panama-cana...
Boils down to classic “Disney magic!” — mostly poison.
Real world UX
Seriously. Everyone probably knows the famous use of forced perspective at Disney. [0]
Or the famous story how on the soft-launch days, Walt would hand children candy at the entrance, then watch how far they walked before they threw the wrapper on the ground. That's where they would place the garbage cans. (Yeah, sounds fanciful enough to be a fable, and perhaps it is. Even if the story is embellished, it definitely reflects the truth of the attention to detail at the Disney parks)
But did you know they do similar "real world UX" magic with music as well?
The different "themed" areas of the parks play different music to match the theme.
As you walk from one themed area to another, the "transition areas" play the treble from the area you are leaving, and the bass for the area you are entering.
Since all the music is in the same key and tempo, it produces a "fading in/out" effect as you travel, and never sounds dissonant or clashes, even though the themes in the different areas are totally different otherwise.
They also do crazy things with smell. In certain areas they emit (very subtle) scents to evoke certain sensations. This is something you may never notice, but once it's mentioned, you'll definitely notice it.
Here's an interesting article that describes some of this: https://factsandfigment.com/2020/05/01/the-illusion-of-fanta...
(that article describes the use of projected/highly directional sound, but not the "fade in/out" technique... I'm trying to find a source for it, maybe someone else can confirm)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_perspective
Or the famous story how on the soft-launch days, Walt would hand children candy at the entrance, then watch how far they walked before they threw the wrapper on the ground. That's where they would place the garbage cans. (Yeah, sounds fanciful enough to be a fable, and perhaps it is. Even if the story is embellished, it definitely reflects the truth of the attention to detail at the Disney parks)
But did you know they do similar "real world UX" magic with music as well?
The different "themed" areas of the parks play different music to match the theme.
As you walk from one themed area to another, the "transition areas" play the treble from the area you are leaving, and the bass for the area you are entering.
Since all the music is in the same key and tempo, it produces a "fading in/out" effect as you travel, and never sounds dissonant or clashes, even though the themes in the different areas are totally different otherwise.
They also do crazy things with smell. In certain areas they emit (very subtle) scents to evoke certain sensations. This is something you may never notice, but once it's mentioned, you'll definitely notice it.
Here's an interesting article that describes some of this: https://factsandfigment.com/2020/05/01/the-illusion-of-fanta...
(that article describes the use of projected/highly directional sound, but not the "fade in/out" technique... I'm trying to find a source for it, maybe someone else can confirm)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_perspective
Disney World (Florida) was built on what's basically the top floor of a parking garage, so that all infrastructure and access could be "underground" and out of sight.
Which is an interesting enough topic on its own, but one thing this allowed was for trash cans to "bottomless": the trash dropped through to conveyor belts below.
No one has to see trash carts or be grossed out watching a trash can be emptied. It also prevented stinky trash drippings from falling on the hardscapes.
Along came the recycling movement, and Disney was quick to implement single stream trash collection and recycling, sorting all trash for recycling after it was collected.
But people were angry that Disney didn't have visible recycling bins next to garbage cans. They would interrupt employees and give them their recyclables. Employees, knowing it all got sorted anyway, would throw it away. Which made people angrier, even if they were told that everything would be sorted for recycling.
So angry, that Disney had to spend a huge amount of money installing "dummy" recycling cans next to the existing trash cans. Cutting holes through reinforced concrete slabs. Major construction.
These also emptied onto the same single stream garbage collection system, but visitors were pacified.
Which is an interesting enough topic on its own, but one thing this allowed was for trash cans to "bottomless": the trash dropped through to conveyor belts below.
No one has to see trash carts or be grossed out watching a trash can be emptied. It also prevented stinky trash drippings from falling on the hardscapes.
Along came the recycling movement, and Disney was quick to implement single stream trash collection and recycling, sorting all trash for recycling after it was collected.
But people were angry that Disney didn't have visible recycling bins next to garbage cans. They would interrupt employees and give them their recyclables. Employees, knowing it all got sorted anyway, would throw it away. Which made people angrier, even if they were told that everything would be sorted for recycling.
So angry, that Disney had to spend a huge amount of money installing "dummy" recycling cans next to the existing trash cans. Cutting holes through reinforced concrete slabs. Major construction.
These also emptied onto the same single stream garbage collection system, but visitors were pacified.
The Disney channel has a 6-part documentary. Parts 1 and 2 cover some of this. (But not the recycle bins.) Some cool engineering, um, I mean imagineering.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Imagineering_Story
https://www.justwatch.com/us/tv-show/the-imagineering-story
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Imagineering_Story
https://www.justwatch.com/us/tv-show/the-imagineering-story
Yeah the really interesting stuff is what they don't like to advertise.
In Florida, Disney actually has corporate control of two municipal incorporations aka actual cities.
They get to control who the half dozen or so residents are, and therefore control who the voters are.
Which besides complete zoning and land-use control, also gives them an amount of police and judicial power.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Buena_Vista,_Florida
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_Lake,_Florida
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reedy_Creek_Improvement_Dist...
In Florida, Disney actually has corporate control of two municipal incorporations aka actual cities.
They get to control who the half dozen or so residents are, and therefore control who the voters are.
Which besides complete zoning and land-use control, also gives them an amount of police and judicial power.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Buena_Vista,_Florida
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_Lake,_Florida
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reedy_Creek_Improvement_Dist...
Disney World is allowed to build a nuclear reactor :)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2019/02/21/disney-wo...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2019/02/21/disney-wo...
Why not just put a faux divider in the same can to appease the masses?
Sort of like this https://i.redd.it/2ats89kd0ea41.jpg
"A clean environment is a pleasure to the senses."
I remember seeing this on a plaque on a porch on Main Street. It had an attribution, which I have forgotten, but could never track down who said it.
In any case, that simple concept permeates the parks and created a benchmark that no other theme park has matched (to my knowledge).
I remember seeing this on a plaque on a porch on Main Street. It had an attribution, which I have forgotten, but could never track down who said it.
In any case, that simple concept permeates the parks and created a benchmark that no other theme park has matched (to my knowledge).
A lot of cities could take this lesson. Sweeping the streets, picking up litter, keeping weeds trimmed would make a lot of urban areas look a lot nicer.
> As you walk from one themed area to another, the "transition areas" play the treble from the area you are leaving, and the bass for the area you are entering.
That gives new meaning to the term "crossover".
That gives new meaning to the term "crossover".
This is really interesting! Thank you for sharing the article. Looking forward to reading it this evening and learn something new.
Wow, the Banjo Kazooie music effect in real life.
yeah it’s a little bleak tbh, the scents are an attempt to influence your memory and make you hungry, and things like magic bands are meant to make you spend as much money as possible by making money more opaque
> watch how far they walked before they threw the wrapper on the ground
I'd throw those kids out of the park. Probably why I could never be Walt Disney :-)
I'd throw those kids out of the park. Probably why I could never be Walt Disney :-)
The two fun facts I’ve always liked about this are:
- They change the texture of the ground in between lands/park areas so when you walk over it you realize something’s different and look around.
- they “invented” a color, Go-Away Green, which emulates the color of grass, and the fire hydrants and other structural stuff are painted with it. Look in a flower bed next time you are there and you’ll see them if you’re careful, but you don’t realize them until you know.
https://insidethemagic.net/2021/04/disney-go-away-green-lp1/
- They change the texture of the ground in between lands/park areas so when you walk over it you realize something’s different and look around.
- they “invented” a color, Go-Away Green, which emulates the color of grass, and the fire hydrants and other structural stuff are painted with it. Look in a flower bed next time you are there and you’ll see them if you’re careful, but you don’t realize them until you know.
https://insidethemagic.net/2021/04/disney-go-away-green-lp1/
Disney is amazing at marketing, but hundreds of years before Disney called it go-away green and their workers were proclaimed it as something they invented, "Invisible Green" was all the rage in Georgian England, to the point where it even appeared in poetry of the era
https://janeaustensworld.com/2010/07/26/invisible-green-a-fa...
https://janeaustensworld.com/2010/07/26/invisible-green-a-fa...
How much of it is fandom (=people admire Disney for it just because it sounds logical and because they like the Disney identity), how much of it is actually making a difference in the children’s mind. Maybe it’s only additional details to keep adults busy with something to notice. Maybe “whatever” would suffice.
We need A/B testing to check whether it increase sales ;)
Have they tried positioning the park West-East vs North-South to check the conversion rates!?
We need A/B testing to check whether it increase sales ;)
Have they tried positioning the park West-East vs North-South to check the conversion rates!?
> Have they tried positioning the park West-East vs North-South to check the conversion rates!?
How would they practically do this?
How would they practically do this?
> How would they practically do this?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.indystar.com/amp/4354705
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.indystar.com/amp/4354705
I think it was a joke, I actually thought it was pretty funny
This is what we in the business call a "joke"
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At least when I lived there, a lot of Orlando had similar mosquito control programs in place. It wasn't that you'd never see a mosquito, but in the relatively close in suburbs, you get much fewer mosquitos than you would otherwise expect. The cities in that area conduct municipal mosquito monitoring and spraying.
I remember growing up I’d see the mosquitoes. Tons of them and you could tell when they bit you or landed in your arm.
Nowadays though, I feel like I don’t them. They seem invisible or not even there anymore, until I get home and am trying to figure out how they got to my ankles.
Nowadays though, I feel like I don’t them. They seem invisible or not even there anymore, until I get home and am trying to figure out how they got to my ankles.
Those might not be mosquitos - I've had to deal with gnats when I head to the Georgia coast, and I barely feel them when they bite, so that might be the case for you as well.
They are called "no-see-ums" by the locals.
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They may not have mosquitos but boy do they sure have love bugs! When we went the year before covid there were so many at Hollywood studios that we skipped one of the toy story lines. They were literally everywhere.
Really cool. So much we can do with landscaping and building design than just look pretty and it's always a treat to learn sometimes we actually do cool things like this in those areas.
It should read Disney World has a good mosquito control system. That does not mean it has no mosquitos but they limit the mosquitos by various means.
anything new here from the mostly 2018 mentalfloss article it is based on?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20368845
TL;DR
- All water is kept running
- Sloped buildings and structures drain water
- Carbon dioxide traps (and save the victims for analysis)
- Repellent plants
- Chickens at the park (which way mosquitoes)
- All water is kept running
- Sloped buildings and structures drain water
- Carbon dioxide traps (and save the victims for analysis)
- Repellent plants
- Chickens at the park (which way mosquitoes)
9 advertising placements in a single article.
Even with adblock, reading flow of the text is utterly disrupted.
Even with adblock, reading flow of the text is utterly disrupted.
TL;DR – drainage ditches, carbon dioxide traps, roofs that don’t collect rainwater and chickens that eat mosquitoes.
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How is this hacker news material? The article is poorly written too. It's just paraphrasing a Sun article at best.
I wonder if the author have been to Disney World. Ever. Getting mosquito bites when you are high or drunk, count too right? One thing is , I went to Orlando once, and don't remember anything(including mosquito bites), and another is "Why a huge attraction park , in the middle of a swamp, in Florida, doesn't have any mosquitoes". What a joke.
I'm going to have to disagree.
I grew up in Florida and only left in the past few years so I would go to the parks on a regular basis (once or twice a year). Disney World really doesn't have mosquitoes or at least any noticeable quantities. I legitimately can't remember ever noticing a mosquito bite while at Disney or Universal. I've gotten them at Busch Gardens but only in the animal habitat sections of the park.
I grew up in Florida and only left in the past few years so I would go to the parks on a regular basis (once or twice a year). Disney World really doesn't have mosquitoes or at least any noticeable quantities. I legitimately can't remember ever noticing a mosquito bite while at Disney or Universal. I've gotten them at Busch Gardens but only in the animal habitat sections of the park.
EDIT: it looks like Snopes wrote about this: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/disney-world-mosquitoes/