Folcon

4 dagen geledendiscuss

Que? Did you reply to the wrong thing? Or are you accusing me of being a bot?

Sorry, just really having difficulty working out how your response is linked to my message

Folcon

4 dagen geledendiscuss

Valid point, done

Folcon

4 dagen geledendiscuss

Not just punishment, from what is implied, indefinite detention of some kind[0]

It's almost like they believe taking people out of the gene pool will eventually eliminate crimes of passion

I miss my slap drones

-[0]: Weird hibernation future prison: https://www.reddit.com/r/CineShots/comments/1gk5ffn/minority...

Folcon

4 dagen geledendiscuss

The problem I have with this is not that I disagree with it, it's a good observation, it's that it ignores humans are very example biased and we really don't have many good positive examples, there's a dearth of positive / utopian perspective in fiction and it's absence sets the overton window handily

I mean the Jetson's is one of the examples that comes to mind when I'm reaching for a positive example of future robots, the Jetsons! A cartoon from the 1960s is in my top 10 examples of "Positive AI / Robot having futures"

Having a more positive takes on the future would go a long way to helping people understand what they're place in it might be, we did used to have periods of history where things were more positive, right now we're really lacking that perspective

Folcon

4 dagen geledendiscuss

In case anyone else wanted to get to a demo quickly:

https://xcancel.com/MaximeRivest/status/2073544461473169432#...

Original link for those who want it: https://x.com/MaximeRivest/status/2073544461473169432

Folcon

4 dagen geledendiscuss

I do wonder if the term will make a comeback, Retrieval Augmented Generation as a concept is a fairly fundamental idea, or maybe it's considered too generic which is why tool calling is used in favour if it?

The problem with tool calling is it's too generic in my mind, maybe RAG will make a return when we get around to having different flavours of it, digging into the rich vein that is Information Retrieval

Also is it just me that doesn't like this sort of wording?

> agent has to hold

I find it very generic, I'd much prefer process or recall or any term that indicates what the agent is doing with tokens in that context

Folcon

5 dagen geledendiscuss

I've never heard of these before, that's fascinating, thank you!

Folcon

9 dagen geledendiscuss

Patents are an incentive to encourage an inventor to lay out an invention or process in exchange for the state protecting that process, we did this because there have been in the past inventions that have been lost, that were valuable largely because the inventor died without documenting what they did (keep in mind the first patent was issued in 1331[0], this is old law)

The complicating factor is that as time passes our ability to reverse engineer has grown, however I'm not sure that invalidates the need for patents, the question is whether the new patents are being assessed well from a novelty / inventiveness perspective

-[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_patent_law

Folcon

10 dagen geledendiscuss

I've very much come around to this perspective as well

Our current generation of AI tools still seems to be very much not there when you really try and use it's output

There's a problematic dopamine dynamic as well where it's far too easy to reach for an AI when doing some work or starting a new project

I'm currently trying to dopamine hack my brain back to preferring to handwriting the majority of my code as opposed to reaching for claude

Time will tell if this is just a phase and it will get better or we'll need some sort of LLMs-anonymous

Folcon

11 dagen geledendiscuss

I keep coming back to the idea of taking that concept and just running with it, IE building up a toolchain alongside some concrete tasks to solve with it and just adding more detail until we reach a reasonably sophisticated level

I've been staring at 0x10c, carwars and battletech and there's a sense that I could build a sort of programming / engineering Zach like

Folcon

11 dagen geledendiscuss

I mean fair, but not relevant?

I'm asking you the question because a statement like 50% of [population] is making a claim to some notion of what they expect society to look like

you introduced the benchmark "not being able to afford a 2 bedroom apartment at median wage", though I would expect a modern day society that makes any claim to be wealthy to be able to have above 50% of it's population to be able to support something like that as that would indicate they can support a small family

You're saying that's not a good benchmark, so I'm trying to understand:

1) Do you have a different benchmark?

2) Is your key complaint that being unable to own a 2 bedroom house doesn't mean that individual or family is in "abject poverty"? In which case fair, though I would ask what does mean abject poverty for you?

It seems like you're saying 2, but I want to be sure

Folcon

11 dagen geledendiscuss

Out of curiosity, what is your expected baseline of what the average person and family in the US should be able to afford?

Folcon

11 dagen geledendiscuss

Nice art style!

Folcon

11 dagen geledendiscuss

I actually do wonder whether we're going to see more of a prevalence of people building one off software due to an increasing use of LLM's which makes the house building model you're describing more common in software

Folcon

11 dagen geledendiscuss

When you say other engineering domains have figured this out, can you give a more specific example?

Folcon

13 dagen geledendiscuss

So I've been wondering about whether there's a new vector that can come out of this? Or perhaps new vector isn't the right way of putting it, not a security expert :)

By mass sharing these kinds of gaps and utilising mythos tier LLM's ability to find and combine multiple disparate bits of information together, are we increasing it's capabilities and versatility?

Folcon

17 dagen geledendiscuss

I don't think this is the same kind of stealing?

If you're being a great artist who steals you may perfectly reproduce something, but in such a different and novel context that it feels fresh, or taking something verbatim and then modifying it with your work, vs say taking an series of ideas from a work and then not really changing or moving from what they were originally expressing

An example of this is from Offworld Trading Company[0], which literally started by copying the market from Age of Empires[1] and then iterated on it as well as the auction mechanics from MULE[2], I vaguely recall them talking about this in their GDC talk[3], though I could be misremembering that(it's a good talk though)

I could be wrong, but I'm not sure if anyone who was stolen from in those cases feels hurt by it

Compare that to stealing, where the parties stolen from were really quite angry at what was stolen, Triple Town vs Yeti Town[4], which very much looked like a lazy clone

-[0]: https://store.steampowered.com/app/271240/Offworld_Trading_C...

-[1]: https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Market_(Age_of_Empires_...

-[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.U.L.E.

-[3]: Offworld Trading Company: An RTS Without Guns : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2C4z_apu2I

-[4]: https://www.gamesindustry.biz/spry-fox-and-the-clone-wars

Folcon

19 dagen geledendiscuss

Out of curiosity, what is Jesper's strategy?

    > He's been campaigning against big tech in our schools for like a decade

This doesn't tell me much about how he campaigns

    > I'm Danish and lars kragh andersen is a bit of a grey zone. He obviously goes over the line, he tried to put GPS trackers on the cars of ministers. He "stalks" their families, and dox their children online. He gave an interview on how he'd ignore people carrying a kilo gram of weed when he was a cop because he doesn't agree with the "war on drugs".
    > On the flip-side, he's sort of right. I assume that putting a GPS tracker on the car of our minister of justice is illegal, but that same minister (Peter Hummelgaard) is one of the key forces behind anti-encryption here in Europe. Similarily the politicians he stalk and harras are pro Palintir getting access to all our data, so Lars Andersen is sort of giving the politicians a taste of what they want to give everyone.
    > He goes way too far though. Especially if he actually wants change, the way he "protests" is directly damaging his own cause, since nobody is going to sympathise with harrassing children.
    > I suspect next time he'll have his cameras running with backup powers though.

By contrast, I've got a much clearer idea of Lars and his strategies by a description of his actions

Folcon

23 dagen geledendiscuss

I do have a sneaking suspicion it's a mix of things, I'm at the point now that I do get a bit of an odd feeling whenever I'm reading AI produced content

I suspect over time it will get good enough that I'll need a larger sample size to identify it, however that won't solve what I think of as the "why does this need to exist" problem, I've noticed that a fair bit of AI content hits that mark, it can be fun, but I've not experienced that feeling of engaging with something that's been well thought out / executed, maybe we'll hit that point[0], but I suspect it will take a while

-[0]: https://xkcd.com/810/

Folcon

24 dagen geledendiscuss

I think gift links may not be working, it asked me for a login

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