Anshul from the Codeium team here! As our FAQs clearly state, only Chat currently uses OpenAI APIs - our flagship Autocomplete capability (think free Github Copilot) uses proprietary in-house trained models and no APIs. We are upfront about this and because we want to guarantee users’ code security preferences, if you have disabled code snippet telemetry, we actually do not allow you to use Chat for this exact reason - we cannot guarantee what OpenAI does with your data, and we never want to accidentally expose this.
We are working on building our own models for Chat to remove this dependency, so you can use Chat while still guaranteeing privacy.
Oh and none of this affects Autocomplete, so downloading Codeium and disabling code snippet telemetry will still give users tons of value :)
Exciting to see more teams take on the code search problem - modern pure regex definitely is a suboptimal solution.
Just to objectively highlight some of the similarities and differences between Bloop and Codeium Search (Codeium also provides Autocomplete) to a user:
- Both are free for individuals
- Both use a mix of AI and regex
- Bloop has both free local and paid cloud offerings, Codeium only works locally (but therefore doesn't work as well on super large codebases)
- Codeium uses custom proprietary embedding models so no dependency on OpenAI and no code is sent to a third party AI
Codeium already has this enterprise option, with self-hosting, fine-tuning, and even things like search on top of autocomplete and way more IDEs: https://codeium.com/
they're complementary! codeium works like copilot, constantly autocompleting what you want to type next, which helps a lot when you already have a decent idea of what you need to get done and need to get it done faster. chatgpt (and chat interfaces in general) help you get some ideas on what to do when you are doing more open-ended exploration, and is explicitly invoked. as developers, we all code in these different "modes" and different tools can be built for each!
for transparency: I'm from the Codeium team, and we are big fans of getting this AI gen tech to all developers on all IDEs for free - we've also open sourced an emacs plugin: https://github.com/Exafunction/codeium.el
exciting! we built (no pun intended) something similar as a free functionality in Codeium (https://www.codeium.com/waitlist/codeium-search) - we just soft launched so anyone on VSCode can opt in to it
it's cool to see other attempts as well. natural language search done properly can definitely accelerate developers by a ton
VS is on the roadmap, Notepad++ isn't something currently on the roadmap, but we'd be totally open if someone wants to write an open source plugin for it, just like we did for Vim/Neovim (https://github.com/Exafunction/codeium.vim) and are planning on doing with Emacs!
Thanks for the feedback! Yeah the playground is a bit limited as it is for demo purposes.
We are fans of ChatGPT and think that ChatGPT is pretty complementary to tools like Copilot and Codeium. ChatGPT is helpful for longer form exploratory questions from natural language while Codeium in its current form is great to accelerate your coding.
I understand the sentiment and why it might come across that way, but we genuinely have gotten a lot more reasonable pointers in these comments than we were able to rack our brains about. And it seems like SEO attacks, Bing incompetence, and Bing actually going after some terms (like Chrome) actually have happened, and the main point here was that we genuinely don't get any feedback from Bing.
We are working on building our own models for Chat to remove this dependency, so you can use Chat while still guaranteeing privacy.
Oh and none of this affects Autocomplete, so downloading Codeium and disabling code snippet telemetry will still give users tons of value :)