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crondung
·6 jaar geleden·discuss
You determining how much you will pay someone for a project you wa't done does not make him a contractor, but it does make him your employee. Gotcha. I think this conversation is pointless, because you don't know the requirements for being an employee, and are assumint that if something doesn't fit your made up definition of contractor, you're an employee by default. This is quite false.

Knowing how much you get paid does not make you a contractor. It makes you an employee. The logic you are using to prove someonenis an emoloyee is what is actually proving they are a contractor. I won't read your reply, because this conversation is stuck in a loop of you proving yourself wrong with the same statement. I wish we could just block people on here. That is what would increase quality of content, instead of ding-dong-dang using this forum to make himself feel better about his loser life.
crondung
·6 jaar geleden·discuss
They don't have a rate. That's the whole point. A W2 employee has to have a rate, hourly/annual/weekly/etc. They have a salary or rate. A 1099 is the only way you can charge per project instead of per rate. When you determine how much you get paid for the project you yourself pick and start is irrelevant to whether you're independent and 1099. In fact if you include contractors working on your house repairs, you have an estimate and agree on the total well into the project.

paid per project you choose yourself =contractor. salary or rate =employee.

determining how much you get paid has nothing to do with employee or not. in fact, as I keep stating, not knowing how much you get paid literally makes you not an employee.
crondung
·6 jaar geleden·discuss
You know it's a ride with pickup in an area. You are free to take the gig or not. You get paid for the gig. That is you choosing your work. That makes it a contract. People who do more work can be compensated better -that has nothing to do with whether or not its a contract.

W2 means you get paid salary or by the hour. Have you ever seen a W2 stub? It doesn't have 'projects' on it. It has a pay rate. Becoming W2 for drivers means they have a salary, and a bonus. So now they're hourly employees. This is literally on the W3 form employers submit to the IRS every year. Not knowing the paid amount before hand is one of the things making it a contract, yet you're claiming not knowing how much you will get paid makes it W2. Amazing gymnastics.
crondung
·6 jaar geleden·discuss
HOW the work is done is chosen by the driver. They are free to take a different route

The employer's business is connecting cars to riders with software. The driver's usual job is HR, and he uses the lyft service to make extra cash on his way home.

The last point is not something that determines a contractor. What you choose to do for money does not have to be a trade. It can be anything.

There are no working hours. You don't get paid by lyft for hours you 'work.' You get paid for engagements you pick -the rides. Getting paid per project, not for time you put in makes you a contractor for that gig.
crondung
·6 jaar geleden·discuss
To him, that money comes from 'government' not your payckeck. This is the kind of person who like many doesn't care -he pays almost no taxes, and votes for other people's hard-earned salary to be given to him. It's one if the issues with democracy - 2 wolves and a sheep voting what's for dinner.

These are also the kind of people who think people have a right to free housing, so anyone who worked, saved for 20 years, and bought a house, now owes them free lodging.

This is why people vote for gop eggheads. Because while those corrupt men steal their money, it's a lot less than the entitled masses try to steal.
crondung
·6 jaar geleden·discuss
if you pick your own hours and your own pickups, you are not anyone's employee -you by definition are your own boss. to be an employee, you have to have your hours and your work defined by your employer. employers tell you what work to do and when to do it. flexible hours don't work when at 4pm on tuesday dispatch yells you to pick someone up.

california is forcing all rideshare contractors to be employees. that's not just a checkbox on a form.