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89 points·by mehagar·9 maanden geleden·19 comments

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mehagar
·2 maanden geleden·discuss
Same. Messy code makes it harder for us to understand and thus maintain the code (which is why people often refer to code as a liability), but is that the case for AI tools as well? If not, it seems like clean code may not matter as much anymore.
mehagar
·2 maanden geleden·discuss
I just hope my employer comes to the same conclusion before I get laid off.
mehagar
·2 maanden geleden·discuss
Yeah, this is the one. Android in a desktop form-factor.
mehagar
·2 maanden geleden·discuss
I've been using AI tools to brainstorm approaches and sometimes generate code, but actually doing the typing myself. That way I'm less likely to forget the mechanics and programming language over time.
mehagar
·4 maanden geleden·discuss
Did you read the article? The author means software in general, not just user-facing apps.
mehagar
·4 maanden geleden·discuss
The way I see it is - AI still makes mistakes, and I have to know how things work at some point anyway. So I'd rather spend my time actually understanding fundamentals (in my case, CSS at the moment), than trying to keep up with the frequently changing AI tools and models.

Once the tools and models stabilize more (as well as the pricing model), there's less risk in me learning something that is no longer relevant.

Except when I choose to wait on learning how to use AI tools effectively, I get told I am going to be "left behind".
mehagar
·4 maanden geleden·discuss
You make it seem like AI coding has already "totally changed" our jobs. This is exactly the FOMO the article talks about ("until its too late"). It hasn't. I'm still using the same workflows without AI tools, and so are most of my teammates.
mehagar
·4 maanden geleden·discuss
The Nintendo Wii was like this too.
mehagar
·4 maanden geleden·discuss
I agree. This is one area I'm hoping that AI tools can help with. Given a complex codebase that no one understands, the ability to have an agent review the code change is at least better than nothing at all.
mehagar
·5 maanden geleden·discuss
I would normally agree, but I think the "code is a liability" quote assumes that humans are reading and modifying the code. If AI tools are also reading and modifying their own code, is that still true?
mehagar
·5 maanden geleden·discuss
There was nothing stopping everyone from using continuous delivery today, yet many companies still rely on long cycles, manual testing and handovers. The problem isn't the tooling, it's the people.
mehagar
·5 maanden geleden·discuss
I don't understand this part either. At some point we're writing software for people to use, and there has to be someone who comes up with the requirements based on what people want. AI doesn't change this fact.
mehagar
·5 maanden geleden·discuss
Is there an equivalent for the JS ecosystem? If not, having Dependabot update dependencies automatically after a cooldown still seems like a better alernative, since you are likely to never update dependencies at all if it's not automatic.
mehagar
·5 maanden geleden·discuss
I use Gemini for personal stuff such as travel planning and research on how to fix something, which product to buy, etc. My company has as Pro subscription so I use that instead of ChatGPT.
mehagar
·5 maanden geleden·discuss
It's refreshing to hear people say "We're not really sure" in public, especially from experts.

I agree that AI tools are likely to amplify the importance of quick cycles and continuous delivery.
mehagar
·5 maanden geleden·discuss
If tech companies want to show they have a high percentage of LoC being generated by AI, it's likely they are going to encourage developers to use AI to further increase these numbers, at which point is does become a measure of productivity.
mehagar
·5 maanden geleden·discuss
So the question is, are these AI tools primarily creating inherent complexity, or is it a significant amount of accidental complexity?

And if AI tools are writing all of the code, does it even matter anymore?
mehagar
·5 maanden geleden·discuss
The book Software Engineering at Google makes a distinction between software engineering and programming. The main difference is that software engineering occurs over a longer time span than programming. In this sense, AI tools can make programming faster, but not necessarily software engineering.
mehagar
·5 maanden geleden·discuss
So they can potentially work offline and deliver push notifications.
mehagar
·5 maanden geleden·discuss
For Apple, sure. But Google has been leading efforts to make the PWA experience good. In origin trial right now is the ability for websites to install PWAs: https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/MSEdgeExplainers/blob/main/....

This would make it much easier to find and install web apps than the current method.