Ask HN: Jobs in Spain?
How is the startup scene in Spain? Either Madrid or Barcelona? Salaries? I have an MS (from the US) and about ~5 years of experience in full stack (everything from embedded to backend to web dev to mobile to ML) and I'm wondering what my quality of life would be relative to the US. I speak passable Spanish.
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Cannot tell for Spain, but I assume it's similar to neighbouring countries like France.
Compared to the united state, it's a much more equal society, which means unlike the US, you won't make 15 times what a barista is making. I'd assume salaries to be around 40, 50k euro at best.
Now that can be enough to make a decent living, have your own flat etc. but it's not, "let's go on holiday to the other side of the world twice a year" sort of money either.
Also there is much less a culture of senior developers, the idea being that to progress in your career you need to stop coding and start being a manager (not true everywhere but the norm)
Now that can be enough to make a decent living, have your own flat etc. but it's not, "let's go on holiday to the other side of the world twice a year" sort of money either.
Also there is much less a culture of senior developers, the idea being that to progress in your career you need to stop coding and start being a manager (not true everywhere but the norm)
> Compared to the united state, it's a much more equal society, which means unlike the US, you won't make 15 times what a barista is making
Yeah, that's why salaries are so low.
What's Messi make again?
Yeah, that's why salaries are so low.
What's Messi make again?
I live in Spain, outside of those two hubs but always keep an eye on them. Both have healthy dev communities that organize monthly meetups and conferences where it's easy to connect with local startups. Lots of open opportunities, often open to foreign folks, and at least a few companies with very strong technical teams. Salaries aren't near the SF range but should allow you to afford a healthy work/life balance and enjoy your time here.
There are some startups in Madrid[1], also, apply with LinkedIn and Glassdoor[2] to companies in Spain[3]. Speaking English and somewhat-entendible Spanish you shouldn't have any problem getting and interview. Indeed your English native level can be an asset.
Thus, you should bring to the interviews that have experience working in USA. I think that is pretty valued in Spain.
On the other hand, Madrid seems to have an American expat community, there are some meetups [4][5] and facebook groups, etc.
Don't know about Barcelona.
Good luck!
[1] Take a look at https://www.siliconrepublic.com/start-ups/madrid-spain-start... and https://www.seedtable.com/startups-madrid
[2] https://www.glassdoor.com/Job/jobs.htm?suggestCount=0&sugges...
[3] I know you want to work for a startup but Amazon is in Madrid, maybe you are interested in that?
[4] https://www.meetup.com/es-ES/expats-and-americans-madrid/
[5] https://www.internations.org/madrid-expats/americans
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Thus, you should bring to the interviews that have experience working in USA. I think that is pretty valued in Spain.
On the other hand, Madrid seems to have an American expat community, there are some meetups [4][5] and facebook groups, etc.
Don't know about Barcelona.
Good luck!
[1] Take a look at https://www.siliconrepublic.com/start-ups/madrid-spain-start... and https://www.seedtable.com/startups-madrid
[2] https://www.glassdoor.com/Job/jobs.htm?suggestCount=0&sugges...
[3] I know you want to work for a startup but Amazon is in Madrid, maybe you are interested in that?
[4] https://www.meetup.com/es-ES/expats-and-americans-madrid/
[5] https://www.internations.org/madrid-expats/americans
EDIT: formatting.
You can work remotely from Spain :). There are many tech companies that will allow working from EU.
> I'm wondering what my quality of life would be relative to the US
What's your quality of life currently in U.S.?
What's your quality of life currently in U.S.?
Have you looked at the who’s Hiring for this month?
Twilio is hiring Java developers in Madrid