Mass Firings for Charlie Kirk Comments Appear Coordinated(cnn.com)
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Mass Firings for Charlie Kirk Comments Appear Coordinated
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/13/business/charlie-kirk-death-fired-comments
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Be very glad that's all they are doing.
What is that supposed to mean? That's no further away from "violent rhetoric" as the things many critics of Kirk have said recently, and been vilified for saying
It means the event has had such an impact in which it has already reverberated across the entire globe, where other countries' leaders and people have responded.
He's saying to not be surprised when this may potentially affect the already volatile state of the global markets and economies even further or, whatever industries you follow or are in or, policy changes that may (already) be in the pipeline.
If I may give a metaphor, in the context of the global trade and economies, countries have been using the "carrot on a stick" approach to negotiations. Trump came and changed the stick to a club. Who knows now whether he'll throw out the carrot altogether and whether others will do the same.
He's saying to not be surprised when this may potentially affect the already volatile state of the global markets and economies even further or, whatever industries you follow or are in or, policy changes that may (already) be in the pipeline.
If I may give a metaphor, in the context of the global trade and economies, countries have been using the "carrot on a stick" approach to negotiations. Trump came and changed the stick to a club. Who knows now whether he'll throw out the carrot altogether and whether others will do the same.
pmdulaney(4)
Says a lot that the very first person listed on that 'charliesmurders.com' site isn't condemning or mocking Kirk at all but just expressing anxiety about the likelihood of a political backlash following his death. Even the people on 4chan were expressing confusion about this and saying her remarks seemed wholly innocuous.
Are you saying they're just harassing people they don't like?
They were looking for targets to make examples of and didn't vet their targets very carefully.
Building websites which only work on the "www" subdomain should also be a crime.
Defamation sites? Is that Kirk‘s legacy.
Must be that American Christian values I heard about
Must be that American Christian values I heard about
The point is anything less than expressions of mourning is considered "violent rhetoric" by the same right-wingers who were radio silent when Melissa Hortman was murdered, and who made jokes when Paul Pelosi was bludgeoned with a hammer.
Silence is violence, right? I thought that was the lesson we were supposed to have learned.
lisbbb(1)
This is terrible, but luckily we have a large and robust network of free speech activists who've spent years organizing against "Cancel Culture" and defending people from getting fired for controversial views. I'm sure they'll spring into action and defend these poor folks. Let's check in on how they're doing...
For sure. The doxing and firings and deplatforming over Covid views, Jan 6 and general Trump support etc were awful and people rightfully complained but this is equally as bad. The hypocrisy is astounding.
It's like we have abandoned all principals of fairness and charity in pursuit of our political enemies.
People of all stripes say dumb stuff on social media. Unless it's immediate calls to violent or illegal action, the repercussions should probably stay on social media in my view.
It's like we have abandoned all principals of fairness and charity in pursuit of our political enemies.
People of all stripes say dumb stuff on social media. Unless it's immediate calls to violent or illegal action, the repercussions should probably stay on social media in my view.
Turnabout is fair play, it's not hypocrisy, it's actually resentment.
Whatever happened to "be the better man". Stoop to the perceived level of your worst enemy and you're just like you perceive them to be.
Kirk shouldn't have died. But he also didn't say very nice things about people who aren't white males. There's a difference between celebrating his death and merely saying "he wasn't a very nice person unless you were white and male". Unfortunately, those two are being conflated. The very first listing on "charliesmurderers.com" is a woman who states in her tweet "I don't believe violence is ever the answer. It just makes everything worse" and "I hope Charlie survives", in response to those taking issue with her worrying that some further far-right Kirk followers might see this as an opportunity for "revenge". She did not champion his death. She didn't celebrate it. She just raised a point.
Unfortunately, he was killed by someone who didn't think he was as far right as they wanted. Ever heard of a "groyper"?
Kirk shouldn't have died. But he also didn't say very nice things about people who aren't white males. There's a difference between celebrating his death and merely saying "he wasn't a very nice person unless you were white and male". Unfortunately, those two are being conflated. The very first listing on "charliesmurderers.com" is a woman who states in her tweet "I don't believe violence is ever the answer. It just makes everything worse" and "I hope Charlie survives", in response to those taking issue with her worrying that some further far-right Kirk followers might see this as an opportunity for "revenge". She did not champion his death. She didn't celebrate it. She just raised a point.
Unfortunately, he was killed by someone who didn't think he was as far right as they wanted. Ever heard of a "groyper"?
We don't know the motivation of the killer. Seems best to wait before inventing a motive.
> Seems best to wait before inventing a motive.
Is there any actual reliable source for this other than a statement from someone that amounts to "I don't know, but wouldn't surprise me"?
Is there any actual reliable source for this other than a statement from someone that amounts to "I don't know, but wouldn't surprise me"?
Seems unlikely that a Christian nationalist would be roommates with a trans person, no?
> Whatever happened to "be the better man"
It didn't work. People are now trying things that work.
It didn't work. People are now trying things that work.
> But he also didn't say very nice things about people who aren't white males.
I'm so sick of hearing this. Please prove it.
Show me one damn clip.
I'm so sick of hearing this. Please prove it.
Show me one damn clip.
Well, reading all that was a waste of time. He didn't say anything controversial there at all. You're suffering from ideological capture if you read that and see a problem.
An eye for an eye eventually leaves the entire world blind. Better we just act out of principals of liberty and charity in my opinion.
The thing to remember is that no one cares about hypocrisy. The people in power least of all. It's a classic authoritarian move to condemn something they engage in, because the authoritarian doesn't care about doing the right thing, they care about eradicating people whose will resist them in any way.
You will see capital L Liberals complaining about hypocrisy the whole time the autocrats rise to power, completely missing the point that hypocrisy doesn't matter. There's no scoreboard out there that says, opponent was hypocritical, automatic loss.
You will see capital L Liberals complaining about hypocrisy the whole time the autocrats rise to power, completely missing the point that hypocrisy doesn't matter. There's no scoreboard out there that says, opponent was hypocritical, automatic loss.
Can they be DDOSd by tons of fake submissions?
Possibly, but they will still have the data submitted before the DDOS. And then it should be pretty easy to filter out the fake submissions just by timestamp (any data submitted after the DDOS attack was initiated).
And it's really not in doubt; the coordination is real and public. I have seen many conservative pundits be very open about it (and preemptively engage with the "isn't this the same cancel culture you used to hate" argument).
My thoughts on the legitimacy of this, from another submission: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45234875