Making Magic Leap past Nvidia's secure bootchain and breaking Tesla Autopilots(fahrplan.events.ccc.de)
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Making Magic Leap past Nvidia's secure bootchain and breaking Tesla Autopilots
https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2025/fahrplan/event/making-the-magic-leap-past-nvidia-s-secure-bootchain-and-breaking-some-tesla-autopilots-along-the-way
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They did: "Elise [...] worked in the past on Nintendo Switch hacking"
This was written on the original posted page (before the link was changed) when you commented.
This was written on the original posted page (before the link was changed) when you commented.
Oh I meant Nvidia didn’t learn from that mistake, not the researcher. If I were Nvidia and had such a high profile hack of a customer’s product, I’d do everything in my power not to repeat it haha.
Here’s the video of the talk. Not sure why the schedule page was linked.
https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-making-the-magic-leap-past-nvidi...
https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-making-the-magic-leap-past-nvidi...
Here is the talk if anyone is interested: https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-making-the-magic-leap-past-nvidi...
Huh, I thought Magic Leap went out of business.
Didn't know they were still around!
Didn't know they were still around!
Unfortunately they are. They're a former shell of what they were. I think they're changing their focus to lenses or something. Last I heard they're partnering with Google and it's absolute ass. The company is effectively dead and being carved out for parts by Google is my take.
It's a real bummer because they were the only company I was actually interested in seeing pursue Augmented Reality. Now it's literally the most evil companies Meta, Google, and Apple.
The 90s optimism of future tech is dead and all that's left is whatever this is.
It's a real bummer because they were the only company I was actually interested in seeing pursue Augmented Reality. Now it's literally the most evil companies Meta, Google, and Apple.
The 90s optimism of future tech is dead and all that's left is whatever this is.
Your sympathy is severely misplaced. Magic Leap was Theranos-sized fraud from the beginning: they never had the goods, put out a whole bunch of misleading hype to persuade consumers and gullible investors that they had the goods [0], and eventually it caught up to them. Good riddance.
[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9r2Z5v_E9o
[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9r2Z5v_E9o
I agree they hyped the product too much, but contrary to Theranos, they did ship two products that actually moved AR tech forward. They just weren't efficient enough and the product market fit wasn't there. Even Apple is failing at AR.
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Just curious, how fast can these embedded systems boot?
It really depends on the application.
With the similar/even weaker socs (imx6 etc..), in the automotive domain, we used to target sub 5 second latency.. we had to get rid of things like even init and directly start the application..
Eg: 1.5 seconds here: https://youtu.be/QbEYhQIjlQc
With the similar/even weaker socs (imx6 etc..), in the automotive domain, we used to target sub 5 second latency.. we had to get rid of things like even init and directly start the application..
Eg: 1.5 seconds here: https://youtu.be/QbEYhQIjlQc
There's a popular slide deck[1] with common techniques for paring it back too.
[1] https://bootlin.com/doc/training/boot-time/boot-time-slides....
[1] https://bootlin.com/doc/training/boot-time/boot-time-slides....
I hope Nvidia's new offerings (Orin, Thor, etc) don't have the same issue in their bootROM. That would be an incredibly expensive mistake.
I hope they do, for those who want actual ownership of what they bought.
Yeah, I'm sure it sucks for the OEM but my Nintendo Switch would be abandonware if not for Hekate bootloader.
Sounds really interesting. CCC is an amazing event.
I guess they didn’t learn from the Tegra X1 which was famously responsible for the boot rom exploit on the original model of the Nintendo Switch.