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5678909787
·4 lata temu·discuss
The rule is just that it's not a crime to leave a child in that location. It doesn't legally affect parental responsibility or anything else outside of criminal law.

I'm 100% in favour of unrestricted abortions up to birth. Bodily autonomy doesn't have a time-limit and it doesn't suddenly become okay for another person to decide what someone can do with their body just because they waited past a particular deadline.
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·4 lata temu·discuss
How could they possibly enforce that? Is there any government in the world that's currently able to enforce such laws?
5678909787
·4 lata temu·discuss
They are not imposing restrictions on themselves. Anyone who doesn't want an abortion can just not have an abortion. They are imposing restrictions on other people. Being a majority doesn't give you the right to impose restrictions on the minority. Bodily autonomy is an individual right. I don't care if you vote 99% to 1%, that 1% still have the right to control their own body.
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·4 lata temu·discuss
Safe haven laws don't do that. They just provide an exception to child abandonment laws. They don't directly affect parental responsibility. If a child has two parents and one of them drops the child of at a safe haven location and the other reports the child missing, the child will most likely be found and given to the parent who did not abandon the child. Nobody will be prosecuted, but the parent who dropped the child off will be ordered to pay child support.

I think this is wrong too, but I think banning abortions is much worse because it's a more direct interference with an individual's body. One is like a a tax, money is taken from you without consent but you are mostly free to get the money however you like. The other is like a mix between forced organ harvesting and slavery where somebody else asserts direct ownership/control over your body.
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·4 lata temu·discuss
That makes no sense at all. People can have consensual sex without wanting a child and they can change their mind about wanting a child after having consensual sex. I'm curious if you apply the same argument when the mother wants a child and the father does not. What should happen to the child in that situation?

The abortion debate should not have anything to do with whether a child will be born or not. The right to an abortion is part of the right to fully control your own body. That right should be absolute and inalienable unless waived voluntarily.
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·4 lata temu·discuss
I don’t think any person should mandate any person what to do with their body. This would not have been any less wrong if it was done entirely by women. Women don't have any more right to control other women's bodies than men do.