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Nonprofit markups.org is exposing the most egregious new car prices

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248 points·by TreyGuy·4 lata temu·261 comments

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TreyGuy
·2 lata temu·discuss
I've been using this for a few months now. Best lifting app out there!
TreyGuy
·4 lata temu·discuss
www.markups.org HN reader here. We started this thing to help blow open transparency in the market
TreyGuy
·4 lata temu·discuss
top right hand corner of the list view... select the sort order and pick "price (low)" or "price (high)"

https://markups.org/?sort=price-desc
TreyGuy
·4 lata temu·discuss
ive easily waited an hour just to have a trade-in valued. this is part of the deal since you wouldnt land in the finance office until your trade in is valued.
TreyGuy
·4 lata temu·discuss
there will be the need to track "below" msrp which will be great just to find the best priced dealers around a given area.
TreyGuy
·4 lata temu·discuss
its an error on the writers part. we are a "for profit" LLC
TreyGuy
·4 lata temu·discuss
A tale as old as car sales
TreyGuy
·4 lata temu·discuss
Thanks Zach!
TreyGuy
·4 lata temu·discuss
Thanks for commenting @gh0strat.

Right now we are currently accounting for both markup and mandatory add-ons as a total in the same numerical value. If it's 0 markup but $2995 for N2 filled tires then the total markup is $2995.

We are finding the opposite to be true. Most of our posters are folks that have actually spent at least a little time dealing with a dealership and are reporting the numbers back to us. Our hope is that as we get more postings the false or innacurate postings will be drowned out by the accurate quality ones.
TreyGuy
·4 lata temu·discuss
Indeed, it will flip to the opposite side of the pole. Getting the best deal under MSRP. Pre covid if you were good at searching forums and Facebook groups you might find the select dealers advertising 3-5% below invoice pricing on certain custom orders.
TreyGuy
·4 lata temu·discuss
No we're not, we are a for profit llc and need to make sure the writer fixes that.
TreyGuy
·4 lata temu·discuss
We plan to really give it a UI and UX scrub and upgrade as soon as we have some funding. We are operating an MVP right now gathering as many data points as possible and trying to figure out which tasks need implemented first.
TreyGuy
·4 lata temu·discuss
Indeed, it will be interesting to see how this plays out with Ford and if they truly plan to curb the markups or force pricing transparency
TreyGuy
·4 lata temu·discuss
Oh jeez, ya I know CarMax is bad. We dont really have a clean way of reporting teslas or scalping of resold vehicles by 3rd parties like that right now at markups.org
TreyGuy
·4 lata temu·discuss
MSRP: $93,874
TreyGuy
·4 lata temu·discuss
Greed also drives the other side of the equation... The consumers side as it pertains to getting the best deal possible! Markups.org is merely trying to use freedom of speech and press to force more transparency and competition across the dealership market segment.
TreyGuy
·4 lata temu·discuss
Crowd sourcing the data is the only way to uncover the real pricing that happens behind the scenes 3 hours into a dealership trip to buy that new car once you finally sit down at the finance guys office. It happened to me and it's happening in crazy high numbers of interactions. The prices listed online or initially viewed then get bludgeoned by "the mandatory addon and adm" bat once you burned half a day at the dealership and finally sit down to "talk numbers". Utilizing OEM MSRP or posted pricing data I feel paints a more flawed picture!
TreyGuy
·4 lata temu·discuss
The site isn't meant to "get one over" on dealerships. It's merely a tool riding on the back of capitalism and free speech to reward the lowest priced dealers, pull back the veil of sneaky bait and switch pricing models and attempt to force more competition across the industry.
TreyGuy
·4 lata temu·discuss
The initial execution was to mimic an excel spreadsheet but as we get more feedback we hope to really produce a better UI and UX.
TreyGuy
·4 lata temu·discuss
Thanks for the feedback. It is greatly appreciated! We are certainly after UI and UX experiences!