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deeeeplearning
·5 lat temu·discuss
Imagine you are an advanced civ with weapons hardly imaginable to current humans. Anti-Matter bombs, GRB strength energy weapons, etc, who even knows what is possible. With weapons like that even a run of the mill rogue political group, terrorist or whoever could probably trivially destroy an entire planet. It stands to reason that if they are able to continue to exist as some kind of multi-planetary species they have figured out a way to avoid killing themselves.
deeeeplearning
·5 lat temu·discuss
In what way. You would call being 18th in income mobility "tremendous?" I wouldn't.
deeeeplearning
·5 lat temu·discuss
Pretty confused by the downvotes. People don't like data?

I mean in fact it's worse than people think and you are no longer likely to make more than your parents when a few decades ago you had a 90% chance of doing so.

https://www.nber.org/papers/w22910

Never expected such a ra-ra USA #1 vibe on HN. Especially in the face of data that says otherwise.
deeeeplearning
·5 lat temu·discuss
>The US is a great place to live and work with tremendous upward mobility

Always confused by this notion. People act as if the US is the only place this is possible but not only is it possible in most of the western world, there is in fact BETTER mobility in the much of the western world relative to the US. The US isn't even in the Top 10!

https://www.businessinsider.com/countries-where-intergenerat...
deeeeplearning
·5 lat temu·discuss
So what's the point of complaining about PoW as if Gridcoin used that when literally 1 of the 2 sentences in the wiki says it uses PoS?
deeeeplearning
·5 lat temu·discuss
Not to be that guy but did anyone read the 2 sentence wiki?

"Gridcoin attempts to address and ease the environmental energy impact of cryptocurrency mining through its proof-of-research and proof-of-stake protocols"

Feels like a quarter of the comments are complaining about PoW ...
deeeeplearning
·5 lat temu·discuss
>Whats the use for the coin? Its an incentive obviously but its only so because it has a price tag. Who should buy the coin from me if I "mined" one and what would he do with it?

This is the same for any crypto coin. Certainly not unique to Gridcoin.
deeeeplearning
·5 lat temu·discuss
Why is this surprising? Has anyone been inside a Chemistry or Bio lab? You think that what happens in those labs to get research done is industrial grade?
deeeeplearning
·5 lat temu·discuss
>It's a scam (it doesn't even use the best version of stockfish, so much for "the best chess engine available").

Have you used the internet or turned on a Tv in the last 20 years? Do you really think Dodge has "The Best Truck in the world" or that Verizon really has the "fastest 5g in America". This is marketing 101 for any business in the US.
deeeeplearning
·5 lat temu·discuss
Sounds like SOP for American business to me.
deeeeplearning
·5 lat temu·discuss
The same could be said about flowers.com, macys.com, or literally any company doing business on the internet. Scale is basically a solved problem so pretending that AirBnb is a "Tech Company" or that they have any interesting tech is incredibly naive.
deeeeplearning
·5 lat temu·discuss
> Everyone is allowed to copy Stockfish/Leela and sell them, provided the terms of the Stockfish/Leela license are met. But don’t pretend that the product being sold is something it isn’t.

What's the issue? Did OS contributors suddenly realize you can make money off software? They're upset at marketers doing marketing?

Don't understand the downvotes. If they violated the terms of the license or did something illegal then sue, otherwise they're just whinging.
deeeeplearning
·5 lat temu·discuss
>If my mental processes are determined wholly by the motions of atoms in my brain, I have no reason for supposing that my beliefs are true. They may be sound chemically, but that does not make them sound logically.

Oh man, Haldane wrote this 100 years ago so it must be true amirite?

All Philosophers and Physicists are crushed by these 2 sentences...

>If you truly can't see how nonsensical it sounds to say on the one hand, "The universe is just a random assortment of matter that happens to have resulted in consciousness, but it's all simply an effect to some original Cause and no more," and then on the other hand argue over claims of logic, reason and truth--I'm not sure I can help you any further along.

It's not nonsensical. Your statement is actually nonsensical. If you found a mathematical proof written by an illiterate schizophrenic the only thing that matters is the consistency of the proof's logic not its source. Maybe you should read actual philosophers instead of the centuries old writings of a Biologist.

The laws of physics are true as we know them, it is completely irrelevant if the minds that came up with ways to describe them have no free will. Your position is completely untenable and unsupported. You would fail Philosophy 101 at any community college if you wrote a paper on your position.
deeeeplearning
·5 lat temu·discuss
>It sounds an awful lot like you're dismissing my viewpoint without really putting an effort in to argue your side, which would be rude.

You are the one making grand claims so you should be the one supporting them. My position is that of the majority of professional Physics and Philosophy communities which is that the universe is deterministic and libertarian free will is a fantasy.

>I would also argue against determinism in some respects, but my thoughts about events being predetermined are a bit more complex

Well show some proof and claim your Nobel Prize.

> The argument isn't directly that knowledge requires free will, but rather that you can't, as a mere product of some chain of events, be a reliable source.

You are just saying this, it doesn't follow from any Philosophical argument that I can see Honestly I think your argument boils down to "The absence of free will makes me uncomfortable so therefore it can't be true," this isn't unique to you either most of the people on that side of the fence's arguments tend to come down to that.
deeeeplearning
·5 lat temu·discuss
>I don't think any of the ideas in this article have any evil intent, even if they have evil results.

The Nazis made essentially this same argument at Nuremberg. Didn't work out too well for them.
deeeeplearning
·5 lat temu·discuss
I'm not aware of anyone making the argument that without free will knowledge does not exist.

And really the situation is simple. Either you believe in determinism or you believe in libertarian free will. The problem is that one of these beliefs is supported by science and the other requires magic.
deeeeplearning
·5 lat temu·discuss
>I did not see any evidence of malicious intent towards our users but a genuine belief we were enabling them to be more productive.

The Banality of Evil, this is just a version of "We were just following orders"
deeeeplearning
·5 lat temu·discuss
>That said, in order to truly have knowledge of anything we must first be able to assert free will.

This is not a coherent argument. You claim to have better insight than hundreds of years of Epistemology?
deeeeplearning
·5 lat temu·discuss
>xI don’t think it deterministic, at the lowest levels the physics is probabilistic.

Probability doesn't get you free will. Sorry.
deeeeplearning
·5 lat temu·discuss
If you believe you determine your actions in a literal sense you are saying you believe in magic because there is no mechanism that could make this possible in a deterministic universe.