ffsm8 · HackerLangs

12 godzin temudiscuss

I'm not sure what your point is, we all already acknowledged that people have been using the term differently, consequently changing the definition of the word over the years

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16 godzin temudiscuss

That's true, I just wanted to maybe add a new perspective to 101008 view that if he enjoyed working with technical constraints, he can still target eg embedded systems with massive resource constraints - and also to force an acknowledgement that the reason for his likely nostalgia to this kind of coding is likely more related to the mental freedom he enjoyed while working back then ... Because that too can be done, albeit with the caveat of time constraints because life doesn't go away no matter how much someone may want it to.

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wczorajdiscuss

Your reaction is based on 3 unproven assertions:

* An AI tutor is a net negative in learning for the subject matter it covers.

* An AI tutor does cause other harms.

* An AI tutor is going to be more expensive that someone who cannot afford a human tutor will still be able to afford an AI tutor.

Seriously, my first reaction to reading this headline was a knee jerk "are you insane", but this whole thread is just people arguing out of their arse while claiming authority. As of today, it was never attempted. It is also possible that the kids gain an advantage by learning to use llms to teach themselves things, which would be positive for their future.

I don't think it's going to happen, but that's just my opinion based on essentially prejudice, not a fact

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Well, nothing is easier then adding constraints. Removing them is what's difficult - so why don't you add them back if it makes you a better programmer and you enjoy doing it more?

Personally, I think the reason you enjoyed it more as a teenager is just down to the fact you were fully in control of what to do and had no external pressure to earn money etc, so if anything you had less constraints - at least from my point of view

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> You can argue whether we need the term "transpiler," but a source-to-source compiler is a compiler.

That's true today, but compiling was historically was defined as getting source code (human readable) to bytecode (machine runnable without an interpreter).

Some people didn't like that definition, and consequently the waters have been murkied. Just like with eg crypto. Or real time.

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przedwczorajdiscuss

They're being called "trust me bro benchmarks" for a reason ( ･ั ﹏･ั )

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przedwczorajdiscuss

1. keep the timer counting up

2. add a multiplier depending on the number of seconds until solved. [30s / [taken]s = score

    eg.: 10s solution gives x3 score 
         30s = 1 score (1x1)
         40s = 0.75
         60s 0.5

3. add button to give up

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przedwczorajdiscuss

What's also massively undervalued is medium high dosage of the amino acid creatine. If you take >10g/day you'll have a much easier time staying focused over long periods. It becomes noticeable only after consistent intake however, and only if you actually pay attention to it - as you won't feel any different. (And it's effect is also supposedly diminished with high Coffein intake)

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3 dni temudiscuss

Definitely not superstitious. It's just an opinionated workflow, you can see the steps further down in the repository.

It's just spottily enforced because it's just written to the context in markdown - it's basically one of the very first attempts from the very beginning of Claude code.

But superstitious would mean it's just in your head, essentially - but this has an effect. It does create questionairs, documents every decision and plan etc. Wherever you want that is up to you, I personally didn't... But it's also definitely very much causing an big difference in behavior from Claude Code

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3 dni temudiscuss

I disagree, It's about treating people as sheeple that the politicians need to supervise and teach.

Basically these brainrotten politicians consider themselves the only responsible ones that need to remove choices for the simpletons they administer because they (the politicians) know better.

That's the core of our current woke culture that has become the zeitgeist since the 2010, especially in Germany - and it's especially strong on the left side of the spectrum ... But can be observed across all current parties to varying degrees.

That causes the politicians to think more about what "should" society be like (from their "I know better" perspective), instead of looking at reality - consequently ignoring that what they're trying to create isn't even within the bounds of our technical capabilities right now. Yes you can get close, but close is not enough for such features

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5 dni temudiscuss

Hmm, isn't that just down to the fact people always vastly underestimate the amount of work software takes?

It takes a lot of time to successfully deliver a product. Even at the more "extreme" end of expectation - like saying it's a X10 multiplier (I'd disagree on that, it's more like 0.5-3 - depending on the type of work you're working on) you'd still need multiple years to go from first line of code to displacing established players. Things just don't change that fast.

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5 dni temudiscuss

Unless you get written permission you can be sued for publishing their trade secrets. This can end in jail time if your employer is particularly uncaring.

Ymmv, do whatever you want . It's your life.

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5 dni temudiscuss

Fwiw , you're conflating multiple things and consequently drawing premature conclusions.

It can be massively over hyped for it's current capacity and decimate the white collar work.

A lot of the difference of opinion is down to their point of view. At my dayjob, LLMs will not live up to anything because the enterprise is not structured to take advantage of it's strength. That's unlikely to change within the foreseeable future.

I strongly suspect you mostly talked with people coming from just such a background, because it's hard to go beyond our own bubbles

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7 dni temudiscuss

The people having glass literally break from the vibrations would probably disagree with your opinion

https://youtu.be/_bP80DEAbuo?is=sg09k66iutKFIFSo

Yet here we are, discussing "data center" as if they're standardized and of similar (nose) isolation.

There are no meaningful regulations in building them, and they can be incredibly polluting. So your experience with a potentially well isolated one is sadly not the norm going forward. And we don't even know how close you lived, if you're eg talking about "within 5km/3miles" then your experience would also have little value in this discussion in general.

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7 dni temudiscuss

An imo even better example is death penalty.

Some people are not redeemable. Abolishing the death penalty is a mistake.

Another even less controversial example is providing adults and elderly euthanasia under certain circumstances.

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7 dni temudiscuss

Your comment is strange, he clearly did in this context - that's why he knew what went wrong?

Fwiw, I currently consider code generated by models below opus level borderline unusable. It really is horrendous there.

With opus, it's still not good - but it's a lot better then some of my colleagues write.

Well written code, carefully planned out and thought through is still only possible by either hand writing or holding the hand of the model so much that you may as well just write by have, as you'll be quicker.

However, the code opus produces is good enough... So I rarely take action anymore in private projects

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7 dni temudiscuss

You shouldn't really use it to answer questions either though, because then you won't know how wrong it is when it's hallucinating...

I mean I know the draw, it's just so easy to get suckered into it... After all, it's usually mostly correct! And since the Advent of llms searching via Google has gotten essentially impossible with 1000 slop articles per one genuine article... But the danger is real, even with eg fable

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7 dni temudiscuss

Without the braces around the perfectly I would have understood it... yeah, I think I was misinterpreting what he meant to say

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8 dni temudiscuss

The title on this HN submission is just wrong. Click on the link and find out.

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8 dni temudiscuss

> sometimes

I've never interacted with anyone that knew them by another name. It's always (docker) container, where they may leave out the docker term, but if questioed what kind of container they mean theyll say it.

And the times I've called them OCI container (or image when talking about those) nobody knew what I meant until I clarified to docker

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