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10 minut temudiscuss

This makes me glad that I got into tech later in life after being in the trades.

I don’t know how to explain it quite yet but I feel like Geo is experiencing something I’ve seen with a lot of my counterparts who were computer nerds from their childhood into adult life. It’s like they haven’t considered much outside of that realm and can’t figure out how to.

Don’t get me wrong, I find my field fascinating and work on it all the time. But it’s still just a field and I can’t apply myself just as well to anything else.

2 godziny temudiscuss

“You can’t see it most places so who cares if it goes away” is my most charitable interpretation of this.

5 godzin temudiscuss

I’ve been present when the world comes crashing down around people who thought they were too smart to get caught.

The surprise in their eyes is always very genuine.

6 godzin temudiscuss

Joined the game and the random name it gave me was “Black Kidd” which I found amusing.

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I have almost no appreciation for trains and I’m incredibly interested in trying this.

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Man I hope so because they’re the ones selling them haha.

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This is the problem with the majority of AI push coming from devs. They look at something as complex as accounting and only think in terms of what they see on the surface and then say “oh that looks easy enough, there couldn’t possibly be more under the hood”.

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Ah yes, because there’s no difference between a shifted decimal and entirely hallucinated credits and debits.

This was my CPA wife’s response btw.

The entire field is based on balance sheets and context that informs compliance.

Let me put it this way: it’s such a bad idea that even Intuit doesn’t let their AI replace a human.

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Ha even if this was true (it’s not) you’re basically saying “humans will make some mistakes so let’s throw caution to the wind” which is probably the worst application of AI that I’ve heard yet.

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Hahaha non-deterministic accounting probably won’t fly well with the IRS

5 dni temudiscuss

I like that the most sober thing a CEO has said in a long time is getting the “who cares what CEOs think?” treatment.

5 dni temudiscuss

You just reminded me of how Copilot (also the only allowed tool at some of the orgs I do client work for) will sometimes switch to Toki Pona for no reason.

7 dni temudiscuss

I think sometimes it is but only if the humor relies on a tone.

When it’s satire I think the main blocker of recognition is if you have an emotional reaction first.

As an example, if you are a diehard AI influencer or something you might miss the joke entirely because of the severity of your initial negative reaction.

Just my two cents. Glad I could contribute to completely beating the humor out of this post :)

7 dni temudiscuss

Sure, let me be blunt.

Speed and cost are nothing without quality and quality is partially a product of accountability (not even considering the technical or logistical issues this is enough on its own.

An AI cannot be held accountable. It does not desire to feed its family.

Your counter argument was outside the context of this articles claims, specifically that programmers and other knowledge workers can be replaced by LLMs.

Equating simple yes/no outcomes generated by vision based machine learning is quite different than “build me a product people will be happy with” being asked of a non-deterministic machine.

7 dni temudiscuss

Oh machine learning has been useful for measuring deterministic and non deterministic outputs for a long time.

But that’s not the argument here, is it?

So the question still stands.

7 dni temudiscuss

Have outputs from engineers traditionally been measured in cost and speed?

Remember, we aren’t just talking about the product you create. While you would measure deliverables by cost and speed are we ignoring something else? Something that could potentially be more important than either of those metrics?

8 dni temudiscuss

So I do a lot of client work for F100s and I’ve got some good news and bad.

The bad news is it’s already in the C Suite and they (were) pushing it hard.

The good news is that since Copilot and others have started to charge based on usage a lot of those same leaders have hit the brakes and are now wanting detailed information and usage reporting to figure out where AI actually fits in.

Some have gone even further and slapped a usage limit on individuals or teams and left it at that.

Sanity is around the corner. At least until the next big thing :)

8 dni temudiscuss

That’s a great explanation of automation.

If I have a choice between a deterministic traffic light and a non-deterministic traffic light which one would I use?

And yes, before you say “this isn’t a comparison of non deterministic and deterministic tools, this is a comparison of two non-deterministic tools” think about what my next question might be.

8 dni temudiscuss

This argument style is always humorous. The intention is something like “so humans are as bad as AI” when the original question boils down to something like “why would I replace humans with AI?”.

8 dni temudiscuss

I like that this goofy fear-based boosterism is on the front page at the same time as an actually well reasoned and well written article about how fear-based boosterism has actually harmed the AI industry instead of making everyone panic-buy like they intended.

I assume that’s entirely due to not being able to downvote submissions on HN.

As for the article, as another user put it:

> Call me when it stops making things up.

We haven’t moved past this yet