therealtbs

5 lat temudiscuss

It's getting press because it is siphoning off the page contents which include the names of files you have stored. It is quite a different scenario than just loading an image through an img-tag (which can be controlled through things like Referrer-Policy these days)

therealtbs

6 lat temudiscuss

Yes, everyone is in complete hysterics exactly because Facebook is evil (by the definition "harmful or tending to harm" (OED) or "morally reprehensible" (Merriam-Webster)). Just remember the recent(-ish) Oculus controversy, where they forced everyone who bought their hardware to sign in with Facebook and in some cases (soft-)bricked users devices because their Facebook accounts did not have enough activity [1]. Especially because Palmer Luckey (founder of Oculus) when answering questions about the acquisition in 2014 said that Facebook would not do such a thing [0].

I personally am scared because the language being used here is not at all specific to the scenario mentioned here ("hosted clients"). I understand that anything more specific would probably be rejected by their legal team. I am afraid that some 5 years down the line they'll be able to do something worse without notifying users because the TOCs and privacy policies are written in this ambiguous language.

Regarding alternatives, I can't really speak on the security/privacy of any of them but from what I can gather, Matrix does have E2E-encryption functionality [2] so I'm not quite sure how it is less secure than Signal (provided you host your own server and/or have a reasonable degree of trust in the server-operator of your conversation-partner).

[0] https://www.cgmagonline.com/2020/08/19/oculus-founder-facebo...

[1] https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-10-15-oculus-quest-2...

[2] https://matrix.org/blog/2020/05/06/cross-signing-and-end-to-...

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