The west actually had quite some deals with them recently. If not for the trade war there could’ve been a lot more. To some extent it is like the Temu vibe.
There is no careful planning. Just take a look at the waste, the debts and the rapid policy changes. It is more like industrial Darwinism at scale. The main fuel was mainly WTO , export and slavery labor. The industrialization in my opinion is a by product of that process.
That was to answer the previous question. Also the point is why Chinese companies can produce infra work in a cheap and fast way. With regard to US companies, I don’t see that is possible with MSFT, AMZN, AAPL, and likely GOOG as well. (Don’t get me wrong, they all have solid infra, probably except Apple)
I would say most if not every large company in China has their own AI infra stack, partially because tech talent is relatively more abundant and partially some of the tech leads have been exposed to western tech via open source and work experience so they have a good success rate (which makes it a more common practice). Anecdotally, specifically Google, FB ex-employees from oversea offices, MSFT and Intel ex-employees from their China offices could be the key elements for this trend in the past two decades (Google left China around 2010).
The infra work is usually technically tedious so I think it may become some lost art in the west just like those manufacturing jobs.
To be blunt this is exactly what is wrong with the “leadership” mindset in the west, as decisions are often made without understanding the “nuances” yet they are confident it would work.
Exactly. This is all about power grab without going through a proper due process. The government is shitty and inefficient but DOGE is not the way to fix it.
What DOGE is doing has happened in China 10 years ago. Instead of “fighting corruption” they claim “government efficiency”, but the ultimate goal is to silence and destroy any opposition. Because bureaucracy is inherently universally corrupted, to some extent, and the US has tons of laws at the DOJ’s disposal. That is Xi’s playbook to solidify his power and I am afraid Trump may be using the same one. I certainly hope we won’t be going down that road but to be honest I am not bery optimistic.
It is probably a lot more practical to protect Taiwan than hoping somebody may rebuild Intel for the next 5-10 years. Having TSMC production in US is also more approachable for the mid term.
Forking is not the issue. The real issue is the (mis-)presentation of the additional work and value they bring to the fork. Based on the code commits in the two repos it is minimal if anything at all, while they clearly claimed they have 100 contributors which is totally false.