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Show HN: 4 Years Later, mmm.page 1.0

mmm.page
7 points·by xhfloz·2 lata temu·0 comments

Mmm.page could make you enjoy the internet again

techcrunch.com
2 points·by xhfloz·2 lata temu·0 comments

Why am I working on mmm.page?

twitter.com
3 points·by xhfloz·2 lata temu·0 comments

Woolgather

woolgather.sh
2 points·by xhfloz·3 lata temu·0 comments

Internet Playgrounds

woolgather.sh
5 points·by xhfloz·3 lata temu·0 comments

How Do You Use a Computer? How Should You?

aces.bearblog.dev
2 points·by xhfloz·3 lata temu·0 comments

Broadsheet

broadsheet.chasem.co
1 points·by xhfloz·3 lata temu·0 comments

Show HN: Mmm.page beta – Drag-&-drop websites like an internet canvas

build.mmm.page
4 points·by xhfloz·3 lata temu·0 comments

Kid Pix: The Early Years

red-green-blue.com
2 points·by xhfloz·3 lata temu·0 comments

An Internet Canvas

paper.mmm.dev
5 points·by xhfloz·3 lata temu·0 comments

Why I Believe in Personal Websites

twitter.com
15 points·by xhfloz·3 lata temu·5 comments

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xhfloz
·w zeszłym roku·discuss
Creator of mmm.page here. Let me know if you have any questions.

Re: laggy. I know... 1.0 introduced new features but also inefficiencies. The cost of working on something solo. Releasing a patch soon.
xhfloz
·3 lata temu·discuss
Hey! FYI haven't seen anything in my inbox yet.
xhfloz
·3 lata temu·discuss
Left my job in 2020 to do the same. Nowhere near as profitable as OP, but now make enough to cover rent + basic expenses in New York. Crucially: I didn't want to do hypeman social media content that (a) sold the dream of solopreneur as a marketing tactic, or (b) added excessive noise into the ether.

I'm not saying Tony did either -- I haven't followed along -- but certainly a lot of people do. I can't fully blame the people who do, though.

Anyway. The project I've built [1] is still going, and I feel proud of it on merits of software: that it pushes the bounds, however slightly; that it feels good to exist in the world; and that I genuinely care for the people using it.

All that's to say: I think there's a software solopreneur path that doesn't involve excessive hype, gross self-promotion (some degree of self-branding is necessary though), while allowing you to work by principles and also explore interesting software problems.

Feel free to DM me [2] if you have questions, or are interested in bootstrapping your own project. Especially consumer-facing. I do have some writing online [3] that covers this too.

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[1] https://mmm.page

[2] https://twitter.com/xhfloz

[3] https://woolgather.sh
xhfloz
·3 lata temu·discuss
* Those hotkeys should work (follows Figma's example). * A very high priority. * Yeah... I plan to let people disable click (e.g. pointer-events: none) on elements, but automatically detecting transparent overlapping areas is a bit more work.
xhfloz
·3 lata temu·discuss
Ohh. I misread this. I thought you meant auto-save the editor. Now my response seems glib. Absolutely -- I should at least warn people when they try to exit the drawing view.
xhfloz
·3 lata temu·discuss
That is not an unfair assessment. Hopefully 1.0 irons out the kinks.
xhfloz
·3 lata temu·discuss
TIL
xhfloz
·3 lata temu·discuss
Currently working on the ability to copy and paste the underlying blocks into your own editor (with owner’s permission) —- big believer in popping the hood!

Long term dream is to have the HTML output look good enough that people can edit at both WYSIWYG and code levels.
xhfloz
·3 lata temu·discuss
Mobile Chrome on what OS?
xhfloz
·3 lata temu·discuss
I love kids' mmm.page sites

https://twitter.com/xhfloz/status/1633159802745417752
xhfloz
·3 lata temu·discuss
What's your device spec? I have November blocked out for optimizations.
xhfloz
·3 lata temu·discuss
That is on the roadmap :)
xhfloz
·3 lata temu·discuss
Creator of mmm.page here — thanks all for the attention. I woke up wondering why traffic suddenly spiked...

I recently created a newsletter [1] to write and experiment more a la "An Internet Canvas." Feel free to give it a read.

You can also find me on Twitter [2], and support my project via patronships [3].

Oh, and go explore all the other sites people have made [4].

[1] https://woolgather.sh/issue/1

[2] https://twitter.com/xhfloz

[3] https://woolgather.sh/patron

[4] https://explore.mmm.page
xhfloz
·3 lata temu·discuss
It could do with a heavy perf pass tbh. Haven’t had time juggling all the feature work, but it’s planned for 1.0. Mind letting me know what machine you’re on?
xhfloz
·3 lata temu·discuss
Unfortunate compromise of not paying for font licenses — and google fonts is the most extensive collection of free fonts.

As for fonts — it’s unideal! Those initial fonts are actually just the glyphs subset of fonts so I can display their names in the font picker. It’s already somewhat cut down by separating the fonts into basic and all, as well as delaying the load a few seconds after initial load, but still a lot to fix up there.
xhfloz
·3 lata temu·discuss
Not VC-funded :)

As to charging an (optional) paid plan, unfortunately, I have been bootstrapping this full-time the past few years, and because I can’t till my own land anymore, have to find the least terrible way of exchanging labor for money, such that I can pay for food and bills.

That being said, there is a free tier for this very reason, as I remember all the free services that got me started initially. Hoping to make this tier more generous once the project is profitable.

Let me know if you have other ideas. If I can (a) pay for business costs (accounting, APIs, hosting, etc), (b) pay for my bills, (c) attain a and b w/ incentives that align with my users and the principles of the project — I am all ears.
xhfloz
·3 lata temu·discuss
Oof. I take it that’s not a great thing.
xhfloz
·3 lata temu·discuss
The page shared here was a read-only version. The editable version is at: https://paper.mmm.dev

(But due to some iFrame hackiness, it doesn’t work in incognito.)
xhfloz
·3 lata temu·discuss
Thank you! Curious — how did you find out about mmm initially?
xhfloz
·3 lata temu·discuss
Thanks for sharing original link — had not seen that project before. I’ll refrain from commenting on their funding, but fyi is mmm.page is wholly bootstrapped (which has left a healthy dent in my savings over the past three years haha).

So if you enjoy the project, or want to support some of the researchy aspects of it, please consider upgrading!

I have another article in the works about the importance of independent funding models and slow growth incentives w/r/t organic social networks, and projects that necessarily require slow exploration as a community (not, in contrast, “spaces designed by committee”).