I Know the Salaries of Thousands of Tech Employees(medium.com)
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I Know the Salaries of Thousands of Tech Employees
https://medium.com/s/powertrip/i-know-the-salaries-of-thousands-of-tech-employees-4841bc26d753
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Yeah I agree. I like knowing rough averages of what similar roles are making but when it comes to individual people's salaries it can be difficult.
Seems like a dupe of: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18283821
Boo hoo, you make $233k a year, don't pay for healthcare, and most likely get free lunches and the gender pay gap! My advice get out of the bay area and fantasy land. You are in the top 1% wage earner.
You've posted tons of comments grinding this axe, and it has passed the point of tedium, so please stop.
Just to be clear: the issue isn't that you don't like SF or whatever, it's that an idée fixe becomes a broken record and drags down discussion quality.
Just to be clear: the issue isn't that you don't like SF or whatever, it's that an idée fixe becomes a broken record and drags down discussion quality.
Dang, I appreciate you moderating HN and trying to keep things civil and on topic. I agree my tone was perhaps not the best. However my point still remains, though I could have articulated it better and frankly it's shared by many Americans outside of the bay area.
> You've posted tons of comments grinding this axe, and it has passed the point of tedium, so please stop.
Your asking me to filter or silence my voice and displeasure of the dirty underbelly of the bay area and its omnipresent hypocrisy. My main complaint is that both sides of arguments are not free to discuss on HN, and it seems that more traditional and conservative ideologies are shutdown, moderated, and displaced, while extreme liberal ideas are celebrated. We all have our inherent biases and leanings, but as HN moderators it seems unfair to selectively target moderates or conservatives.
> You've posted tons of comments grinding this axe, and it has passed the point of tedium, so please stop.
Your asking me to filter or silence my voice and displeasure of the dirty underbelly of the bay area and its omnipresent hypocrisy. My main complaint is that both sides of arguments are not free to discuss on HN, and it seems that more traditional and conservative ideologies are shutdown, moderated, and displaced, while extreme liberal ideas are celebrated. We all have our inherent biases and leanings, but as HN moderators it seems unfair to selectively target moderates or conservatives.
Your argument is both rude, and doesn't logically follow from the article.
233k in the bay area isn't close to the top 1% and isn't a salary that will afford a lifestyle higher than what you would expect to be middle class.
You clearly haven't dealt with the cost of the bay area before. Your dollar's purchasing power is cut in half compared to the Midwest.
You clearly haven't dealt with the cost of the bay area before. Your dollar's purchasing power is cut in half compared to the Midwest.
The cost of a McDonalds meal is $7 in Kansas City but only $8 in San Francisco. See https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/kansas-city and https://www.expatistan.com/price/big-mac/san-francisco
Housing is what makes the coasts costly. Other expenses are roughly similar and more than compensated for by higher earnings. Sometimes they can even be lower, like health insurance or certain goods or services. Because housing is so variable it's difficult to say which is more affordable without specifics, but the higher your disposable income the more likely it is that working in a coastal city makes more sense. If we both can save 20% each year for retirement or kids' college tuition, my 20% will be much larger than your 20% given the often times huge disparity in absolute earnings, and even my 10% or 5% might be more than your 20%. The price of a condo in Florida or Arizona is the same for both of us. State college tuition is also much more similar across states relative to earnings differentials.
Most people rationalize their decisions to stay put or somewhere familiar. If they didn't, most retirees would have moved to Ecuador--social security and pension payments are the same no matter where you live.
Housing is what makes the coasts costly. Other expenses are roughly similar and more than compensated for by higher earnings. Sometimes they can even be lower, like health insurance or certain goods or services. Because housing is so variable it's difficult to say which is more affordable without specifics, but the higher your disposable income the more likely it is that working in a coastal city makes more sense. If we both can save 20% each year for retirement or kids' college tuition, my 20% will be much larger than your 20% given the often times huge disparity in absolute earnings, and even my 10% or 5% might be more than your 20%. The price of a condo in Florida or Arizona is the same for both of us. State college tuition is also much more similar across states relative to earnings differentials.
Most people rationalize their decisions to stay put or somewhere familiar. If they didn't, most retirees would have moved to Ecuador--social security and pension payments are the same no matter where you live.
Billions of people live on pennies per day. These discussions without perspective become petty squabbles of the global 1%.
Median household income, San Francisco County, 2016: $87,701.
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/sanfranciscocou...
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/sanfranciscocou...
Not interested in starting a big extended dialogue, but I lived in downtown SF for over 6 years. I am very aware of the costs. It's absurd and out of touch with reality.
It's a real dilemma. On an individual level fair pay is whatever you're willing to accept; what those around you are paid is completely irrelevant. On an aggregate level lack of transparency helps to persist systemic discrimination.