A Lesson in Acceptance(oxfordamerican.org)
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A Lesson in Acceptance
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So things are not so bad in the US, if one can still worry about dining-in food. Glad to hear. Media here made it sound much much worse.
The media has a vested interest in fear mongering and uncertainty. It keeps people tuned in to their publications, increasing revenue.
Lots of places in the US have had less strict lockdowns and earlier reopenings than other countries. That may be part of why the US has had such a worse outbreak than those other countries.
I wouldn't take a single author writing about eating in a restaurant as an indication. Look at the numbers instead; it's pretty bad.
I wouldn't take a single author writing about eating in a restaurant as an indication. Look at the numbers instead; it's pretty bad.
If you look the number case, yes it can be considered "high" because the virus spread easily but then again you see vast majority of it is either asymptomatic or only have mild symptoms, it doesn't make sense to lockdown.
172,000 dead.
I'm going to stick with the advice from public health experts, which has been consistent and unanimous, thanks.
For details on how the US's death rates (CFR, per capita, etc.) compare, you can read more here, but it's not good. Other places aren't good either, but many places are much better.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/08/05/8993658...
I'm going to stick with the advice from public health experts, which has been consistent and unanimous, thanks.
For details on how the US's death rates (CFR, per capita, etc.) compare, you can read more here, but it's not good. Other places aren't good either, but many places are much better.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/08/05/8993658...
>172,000 dead
Thats such a low number ~0.05% of the population. This should viewed as good news that the virus is not that deadly.
Thats such a low number ~0.05% of the population. This should viewed as good news that the virus is not that deadly.
That's 172,000 dead with all the (somewhat) strict measures being taken.
Not to mention hundreds of thousands more with heart damage and other long term effects of infection that are still not well understood. Death should not be the only metric of disease severity or burden.
All diseases could cause long term effect in some of the population.
Flu can cause long term damage too.
Do you know what else could cause long term damage ? Lockdown
>still not well understood
Especially when is still not well understood, we shouldn't do lockdown as it surely can cause damage.
Flu can cause long term damage too.
Do you know what else could cause long term damage ? Lockdown
>still not well understood
Especially when is still not well understood, we shouldn't do lockdown as it surely can cause damage.
Lockdown without adequate support to mitigate the known negative effects, sure. We know what can happen from a lockdown and can plan accordingly. We also know the long term effects of flu (not nearly as severe as what known about Covid, so even loosely comparing the two is irresponsible).
We may overreact for the unknown effects of Covid, but it's sure convenient to say we should do nothing instead and oops later if you underestimated (which is interestingly exactly what happened at that start of the pandemic and got us to our current death rates). Sad that your preference is all for the sake of leisure and convenience, perpetuating a system dependent on low wage service laborers that are offered no choice in the matter.
We have other options, but a flat refusal to offer or consider any does indeed leave every man for himself. But careful what you ask for, because when you force people into such desperation they will only put up with so much before deciding to take back or destroy it all.
We may overreact for the unknown effects of Covid, but it's sure convenient to say we should do nothing instead and oops later if you underestimated (which is interestingly exactly what happened at that start of the pandemic and got us to our current death rates). Sad that your preference is all for the sake of leisure and convenience, perpetuating a system dependent on low wage service laborers that are offered no choice in the matter.
We have other options, but a flat refusal to offer or consider any does indeed leave every man for himself. But careful what you ask for, because when you force people into such desperation they will only put up with so much before deciding to take back or destroy it all.
>but it's sure convenient to say we should do nothing
I didn't say we should do nothing. There are things that can be done other than lockdown such as finding vaccine still have to be done, improving treatment method still have to be done, improving health care capacity still have to be done, etc.
>sake of leisure and convenience
Its not just leisure and convenience, people losing job, bankruptcy, mental health problem, suicide, domestic violence, delayed treatment for non-covid cause, kids receiving poor education due school closure, etc
Flu kills thousand every year too, yet we didn't require lockdown.
Likewise be careful when you ask for lockdown, because when you force people into such desperation they will only put up with so much before deciding to take back or destroy it all.
Lockdown maybe justified if the threat is proportional to the severity for covid its not worth it.
I didn't say we should do nothing. There are things that can be done other than lockdown such as finding vaccine still have to be done, improving treatment method still have to be done, improving health care capacity still have to be done, etc.
>sake of leisure and convenience
Its not just leisure and convenience, people losing job, bankruptcy, mental health problem, suicide, domestic violence, delayed treatment for non-covid cause, kids receiving poor education due school closure, etc
Flu kills thousand every year too, yet we didn't require lockdown.
Likewise be careful when you ask for lockdown, because when you force people into such desperation they will only put up with so much before deciding to take back or destroy it all.
Lockdown maybe justified if the threat is proportional to the severity for covid its not worth it.
No. Things are fucked in the US, and made worse by people dining-in at restaurants as if their actions didn't have consequences.
Point of clarification: "Latinx" is not a real word. "Latino" serves perfectly well, and should be used instead of some made-up word created to assuage notions of wokeness.
Furthermore it doesn't make any sense in the Spanish language, where it is perfectly normal to have Latinos (n. m), Latinas (n. f), and Latinos (n. n).
It is a word entirely for the American activist class.
It is a word entirely for the American activist class.
The point is obviously to disrupt that normality, but it’s absolutely a word for and by US activists speaking English.
The word used by activists in Latin America is “Latine”, if you’re curious. It’s actually pronounceable in Spanish!
The word used by activists in Latin America is “Latine”, if you’re curious. It’s actually pronounceable in Spanish!
In the Spanish-speaking world you can find the endings -e, -@, and -x. Depending on the area/organization one or other can be used (also, differing ways of pronouncing them; I'm a native and barely have heard any one pronounce the -e versions ever).
It's not that cut-and-dried. Opinions vary: https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2020/08/11/about-one-in...
In case you just read the "3%" in the title and dismiss it, here's a few of the interesting breakdowns from the survey:
"Young Hispanics, ages 18 to 29, are among the most likely to have heard of the term – 42% say they have heard of it, compared with 7% of those ages 65 or older."
"Use is among the highest for Hispanic women ages 18 to 29 – 14% say they use it, a considerably higher share than the 1% of Hispanic men in the same age group who say they use it."
"42% of those who have heard the term describe it as a gender-neutral one."
"12% of respondents who had heard of Latinx express disagreement or dislike of the term. Some described the term as an “anglicism” of the Spanish language, while others say the term is “not representative of the larger Latino community.”"
Also, technically, all words are made-up. That's how we got words.
In case you just read the "3%" in the title and dismiss it, here's a few of the interesting breakdowns from the survey:
"Young Hispanics, ages 18 to 29, are among the most likely to have heard of the term – 42% say they have heard of it, compared with 7% of those ages 65 or older."
"Use is among the highest for Hispanic women ages 18 to 29 – 14% say they use it, a considerably higher share than the 1% of Hispanic men in the same age group who say they use it."
"42% of those who have heard the term describe it as a gender-neutral one."
"12% of respondents who had heard of Latinx express disagreement or dislike of the term. Some described the term as an “anglicism” of the Spanish language, while others say the term is “not representative of the larger Latino community.”"
Also, technically, all words are made-up. That's how we got words.
All words are made up. This word was made up as a more efficient gender neutral way of saying "Latino".
Interesting people are still dining out. How effective are the measures taken in dine-out places there? Someone can shed light on this?
The chance of getting infected and having serious symptoms is very very low. I don't need restaurant to do any special measure.
This article deserves some kind of award for peak pretentious smugness, a la South Park fart huffing. I'm not sure what the point is. Restaurants are nice. Muh facemasks.
>"restaurants are where life is lived"
As opposed to ... the rest of where life is lived?
>"Restaurants bring humanity to a city. They’re central to my memories. "
I'm pretty sure bringing food to a city is more central to restaurantness than bringing "humanity" to a city.
"Eating out in Houston is an exercise in acceptance." -are you shitting me? Do people actually feel virtuous and beatific because they bought a bucket of pork fried rice from someone not of the same race as them? What the hell is going on here?
>"restaurants are where life is lived"
As opposed to ... the rest of where life is lived?
>"Restaurants bring humanity to a city. They’re central to my memories. "
I'm pretty sure bringing food to a city is more central to restaurantness than bringing "humanity" to a city.
"Eating out in Houston is an exercise in acceptance." -are you shitting me? Do people actually feel virtuous and beatific because they bought a bucket of pork fried rice from someone not of the same race as them? What the hell is going on here?
>Restaurants are nice. Muh facemasks.
I wear a mask when I go to a store, and I'm glad I live in an area where people generally do and you don't get harassed for it.
But I would get serious cognitive dissonance if I went to a restaurant or did anything else that met my personal threshold for "not really necessary". I mean, say there's someone who isn't wearing a mask. Can I really complain or feel superior, given that neither of us has to be there?
I wear a mask when I go to a store, and I'm glad I live in an area where people generally do and you don't get harassed for it.
But I would get serious cognitive dissonance if I went to a restaurant or did anything else that met my personal threshold for "not really necessary". I mean, say there's someone who isn't wearing a mask. Can I really complain or feel superior, given that neither of us has to be there?
> Eating out in Houston is an exercise in acceptance. Someone who probably doesn’t look like you—whether that’s the waitstaff, the back of the house—is letting you into their home.
This is just a wild sentence. People don't become less racist after eating foreign food. People should not feel proud about themselves just because they spent money on a bowl of ramen.
> In Houston, most days out of the week, I’ve found myself in the company of family that wasn’t my own, that’s adopted me nonetheless.
There has to be a way to express, "restaurant workers are struggling financially because of COVID", without projecting that the minimum wage workers at your favorite Korean restaurant think of you as an adopted family member.
They just want to do their job and earn a living without contracting a contagious disease. They shouldn't, on top of that, be forced to emotionally validate their customers.
This is just a wild sentence. People don't become less racist after eating foreign food. People should not feel proud about themselves just because they spent money on a bowl of ramen.
> In Houston, most days out of the week, I’ve found myself in the company of family that wasn’t my own, that’s adopted me nonetheless.
There has to be a way to express, "restaurant workers are struggling financially because of COVID", without projecting that the minimum wage workers at your favorite Korean restaurant think of you as an adopted family member.
They just want to do their job and earn a living without contracting a contagious disease. They shouldn't, on top of that, be forced to emotionally validate their customers.
>People don't become less racist after eating foreign food
No, I think the point is, people (like the author) feel less racist after eating foreign food among people who don't look like them. Pride is one possible emotion, but relief is one that seems like it would generalize more. The internet is full of faceless people talking about racism, and getting out in the real world and doing normal things around normal people can be therapeutic. Like taking a walk outside the cult compound.
>They shouldn't, on top of that, be forced to emotionally validate their customers.
Well, the point is to describe how they do, whether or not intentionally; do you have a proposal for how they should stop gratifying customers?
You're entitled to find the picture painted ugly, but if it's really shocking, then writing the article may be worthwhile regardless.
No, I think the point is, people (like the author) feel less racist after eating foreign food among people who don't look like them. Pride is one possible emotion, but relief is one that seems like it would generalize more. The internet is full of faceless people talking about racism, and getting out in the real world and doing normal things around normal people can be therapeutic. Like taking a walk outside the cult compound.
>They shouldn't, on top of that, be forced to emotionally validate their customers.
Well, the point is to describe how they do, whether or not intentionally; do you have a proposal for how they should stop gratifying customers?
You're entitled to find the picture painted ugly, but if it's really shocking, then writing the article may be worthwhile regardless.