The Youth Mental Health Crisis Is International Part 4: Europe(afterbabel.com)
afterbabel.com
The Youth Mental Health Crisis Is International Part 4: Europe
https://www.afterbabel.com/p/international-crisis-europe
14 comments
Though, if your in a church that is virtue signaling then you need to find a different church.
Yes.
My experience with youth church groups is they can be just as bad as high school groups. Just with some extra guilt and holier-than-thou providing even more extra dimensions for peer-judgment.
So scale that up on-line. Brutal.
So scale that up on-line. Brutal.
Also, let's tak on religion. Do you want to know which was the actual meeting spot for people in Spain? Not the Church. Often, the taverns, wheat fields or the 'plaza' in the middle of a village.
People didn't had the same blind faith as in the US. It was more like a social tradition than actual rites, a showoff to display your wealth in holidays and how good you were against the village.
Also, the psychologyst forgot a clear point: back in the day people was drugged as fuck in order ot not kill itself:
- A pint of beer for breakfast, or a glass of wine. Totally fine to do against hard work, a meeting, or even for lunch.
- Women took mental related pills like M&M's in order to survive family duties.
- The weeked arrived, whohoo, everyone did the classical bar-roaming bar-shifting with 5 or 6 tiny glasses of wine before lunch. These might have been small, ok, now do the sum, Barry/Juan.
So, yes, people killed themselves less, but because you were swimming into alcohol without realizing. And, in Spain, alcohol it's the 'social oil lubricant'.
Also, the psychologyst forgot a clear point: back in the day people was drugged as fuck in order ot not kill itself:
- A pint of beer for breakfast, or a glass of wine. Totally fine to do against hard work, a meeting, or even for lunch.
- Women took mental related pills like M&M's in order to survive family duties.
- The weeked arrived, whohoo, everyone did the classical bar-roaming bar-shifting with 5 or 6 tiny glasses of wine before lunch. These might have been small, ok, now do the sum, Barry/Juan.
So, yes, people killed themselves less, but because you were swimming into alcohol without realizing. And, in Spain, alcohol it's the 'social oil lubricant'.
It sounds like you're talking about adults rather than youth.
Adult is relative. Is it 18? 25?
> blind faith as in the US
That's a pretty broad brush you're painting with there, friend!
That's a pretty broad brush you're painting with there, friend!
"losing spiritual purpose". Ah, yes, right, the existencialist crisis again. Which year is it, 1830?
A geek/nerdy mind wont seek any meaning. It either discovers fun things, or creates something totally new and brilliant.
On the supposed "Catholic" Europe, Catholicism in Spain was utterly dead since we already suffered a Fascist regime straightly built from the Church, so we got fed of it really fast.
>High individualistic - France
>Less individualistic - Spain
Aaaaand another non-South European spreading bullshit. Europe it's a continuum, and lots of parts of Spain are highly individualistic, calm, non-partying and very close to France and the UK because, you know, commerce and trading goods by the sea has been since forever.
In Spain you can have huge gaps on behaviour, customs and traditions; even under small provinces themselves.
Even in the same family. My mother's education it's polarly opposite to the one of my aunt, the last one it's far less assertive and more prone to not gettings steamrolled by traditions and nonsense.
On Europe itself, you have a split on Belgium, a Bible Belt on The Netherlands and even differences on Prussians vs Bavarians.
A geek/nerdy mind wont seek any meaning. It either discovers fun things, or creates something totally new and brilliant.
On the supposed "Catholic" Europe, Catholicism in Spain was utterly dead since we already suffered a Fascist regime straightly built from the Church, so we got fed of it really fast.
>High individualistic - France
>Less individualistic - Spain
Aaaaand another non-South European spreading bullshit. Europe it's a continuum, and lots of parts of Spain are highly individualistic, calm, non-partying and very close to France and the UK because, you know, commerce and trading goods by the sea has been since forever.
In Spain you can have huge gaps on behaviour, customs and traditions; even under small provinces themselves.
Even in the same family. My mother's education it's polarly opposite to the one of my aunt, the last one it's far less assertive and more prone to not gettings steamrolled by traditions and nonsense.
On Europe itself, you have a split on Belgium, a Bible Belt on The Netherlands and even differences on Prussians vs Bavarians.
Create meaning that is totally new and brilliant, right?
Discovery and creation is the meaning.
I appreciate the work this team is doing and they have significantly impacted my views on teenage girls using smartphones.
That said, I find their inquiry to mirror a pattern of ignoring the known drivers of childhood trauma & the impact on self-reporting (upon which all of this depends) by people in religious communities.
Until those factors are more thoroughly explored, I’m deeply skeptical of their main conclusion and the explanatory power of their analysis.
This is in part because I have significant personal experience with religious communities across a spectrum of wealth. Mental health issues were hidden systemically & the ingroups were cognizant of the need to under-report their issues on surveys like this.
But far more significantly this smacks of the same analysis that argued that children who had non-conforming sexual identities were in danger of mental health issues and therefore there was a causal link. With time we learned that a lack of acceptance of their non-conformity had far more explanatory power for their subsequent issues.
As convenient as it may be to explain poor mental health as a “rich, liberal” person’s problem, that’s also the group much more likely to be aware of their issues, share them openly, and seek help for them.
Mental health is a crisis and a rising one, but phones are not the only reason our children have less social/play time. Our schools & parents’ regimented approach to childhood development are as culpable, if not more so.
That said, I find their inquiry to mirror a pattern of ignoring the known drivers of childhood trauma & the impact on self-reporting (upon which all of this depends) by people in religious communities.
Until those factors are more thoroughly explored, I’m deeply skeptical of their main conclusion and the explanatory power of their analysis.
This is in part because I have significant personal experience with religious communities across a spectrum of wealth. Mental health issues were hidden systemically & the ingroups were cognizant of the need to under-report their issues on surveys like this.
But far more significantly this smacks of the same analysis that argued that children who had non-conforming sexual identities were in danger of mental health issues and therefore there was a causal link. With time we learned that a lack of acceptance of their non-conformity had far more explanatory power for their subsequent issues.
As convenient as it may be to explain poor mental health as a “rich, liberal” person’s problem, that’s also the group much more likely to be aware of their issues, share them openly, and seek help for them.
Mental health is a crisis and a rising one, but phones are not the only reason our children have less social/play time. Our schools & parents’ regimented approach to childhood development are as culpable, if not more so.
[deleted]
If we think of church as a safer alternative, try scaling Sunday mass up to the size of Instagram or TikTok and it would get this toxic too. Who has the beat clothes, who's the most devout, who's the best mom, who has the best kids... Virtue signalling is what church is all about and that's just as competitive. Our brains are not wired to understand the scale of the internet in general and less developed brains even less so. Compounding that with the competitive nature of late capitalism is a recipe for higher suicide rates.