Take me as an Intern – 19yo student seeking internship(hostmeinca.com)
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Take me as an Intern – 19yo student seeking internship
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Your advice reminds me of advice Al Franken has seemingly taken in his political career so he can break through his image of being a class-clown.
A WaPo article I randomly dug up: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2014/10/24/48765a5e-5...
A WaPo article I randomly dug up: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2014/10/24/48765a5e-5...
Thank you @soneca a lot for your advice. I think you are right and I will remember it.
If you already know how to build simple things, why not write some books and get publicity if you have the chance? It would only increase demand for things that you are hoping to build in the future. I can build things like crazy and I'm still hoping to write a book...someday...
Before you write your own book, I would recommend taking an assessment of the number of books that are already out there and really making sure that you have something to say that isn't already being written about. 99% of books are trash. Don't write one unless you know it will help someone better than all those already existing books would.
Do you live in a fairy world? The point of writing and publishing books is TO MAKE MONEY. Nobody cares about your opinions.
Well, feel free to waste your life and time writing a book for money. I will be the first person in line to never buy such a book.
As a 20 year old I'm frustrated that your eye for design is way better than mine, but at the same time, I'm also frustrated that you're listing projects and they're not on your github, nor are they apparently deployed at all... The images aren't hyperlinks.
* Wire clothing - there are a billion clothing brands with wire in the name, which one is yours?
* VIDBY - google search shows nothing in first 3 pages.
* Mobile App - where can I see it?
* upload.it - URL definitely does not resolve to the site pictured.
* School Site - where can I see it?
* eStavebny Dennik - See, this one's real and it's awesome! http://www.estavebnydennik.sk/
EDIT: They do exist, disregard this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9459684
I've mocked websites and apps before too, but I always am sure to note that I've mocked it, not built it. If you're a front end web designer, there's no shame in that, there's a lot you can do with that. This site and eStavebny are more than enough to impress people. If the other stuff was available to look at, that'd be cool too. But don't mislead people, because if they're going to hire you, they are going to want to look deeper.
Last month my dad was telling me about the interns he was interviewing for this summer. He said he was most frustrated by the amount of overselling that these kids were doing for themselves. No, your management experience of managing your highschool robotics team is not relevant at a fortune 500 company. Related to this is the problem with college admissions. Everyone has a 4.0 with multiple APs and played varsity sports and can write a boring essay. Everyone is afraid to admit what they don't know. And I don't mean unknown unknowns, I mean known unknowns.
I'm coexisting in this problem just as much as you are, and I just want to say that I hate this. I wish we could all be honest with our skills and I wish employers would appreciate that honesty more. But we can't afford to be modest and honest, so I guess can't fault you for doing what we all do.
It's like steroids in baseball.
* Wire clothing - there are a billion clothing brands with wire in the name, which one is yours?
* VIDBY - google search shows nothing in first 3 pages.
* Mobile App - where can I see it?
* upload.it - URL definitely does not resolve to the site pictured.
* School Site - where can I see it?
* eStavebny Dennik - See, this one's real and it's awesome! http://www.estavebnydennik.sk/
EDIT: They do exist, disregard this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9459684
I've mocked websites and apps before too, but I always am sure to note that I've mocked it, not built it. If you're a front end web designer, there's no shame in that, there's a lot you can do with that. This site and eStavebny are more than enough to impress people. If the other stuff was available to look at, that'd be cool too. But don't mislead people, because if they're going to hire you, they are going to want to look deeper.
Last month my dad was telling me about the interns he was interviewing for this summer. He said he was most frustrated by the amount of overselling that these kids were doing for themselves. No, your management experience of managing your highschool robotics team is not relevant at a fortune 500 company. Related to this is the problem with college admissions. Everyone has a 4.0 with multiple APs and played varsity sports and can write a boring essay. Everyone is afraid to admit what they don't know. And I don't mean unknown unknowns, I mean known unknowns.
I'm coexisting in this problem just as much as you are, and I just want to say that I hate this. I wish we could all be honest with our skills and I wish employers would appreciate that honesty more. But we can't afford to be modest and honest, so I guess can't fault you for doing what we all do.
It's like steroids in baseball.
Well the school website definitely exists: http://www.spse-po.sk/
And there is a github repo for his "upload.it" project, which appears to be a collaboration: https://github.com/mochja/odovzdaj.to
The Wire Clothing brand appears to be a work in progress as of the start of this month: https://dribbble.com/shots/2003539-WIRE-Clothing-brand-label, https://dribbble.com/shots/2004870--WIP-Wire-Shirts
And VIDEBY, which was also a collaboration, seems to be a school project only: https://www.google.com/search?q="videby"+site:sk
So his work doesn't seem to be that much oversold, though I agree it would be nice to see more detail than a screenshot.
And there is a github repo for his "upload.it" project, which appears to be a collaboration: https://github.com/mochja/odovzdaj.to
The Wire Clothing brand appears to be a work in progress as of the start of this month: https://dribbble.com/shots/2003539-WIRE-Clothing-brand-label, https://dribbble.com/shots/2004870--WIP-Wire-Shirts
And VIDEBY, which was also a collaboration, seems to be a school project only: https://www.google.com/search?q="videby"+site:sk
So his work doesn't seem to be that much oversold, though I agree it would be nice to see more detail than a screenshot.
I have hired a lot of developers over the last 15 years and not once have I cared if they have a github account.
Probably lots of people are like you. I think the world is changing, though, and I think it is instructive to note that the person complaining about the lack of Github content is 20 years old. I've read hundreds of CVs for web developers in the last 2 years and I could point to only a handful that didn't include some kind of reference to a portfolio (usually on Github).
Even though you say that you don't care about a Github account when hiring, you went out of your way to look at this person's website on HN. I suspect that it made a bigger impression on you than if the person had simply emailed you a Word file with their CV. The fact that the person cares enough to craft something and show it off says something about them.
Personally, I go and look at every single portfolio that gets sent to me. If there is anything half way interesting on there it gets an automatic telephone interview even if their CV is otherwise unappealing. I'm looking for people with decent technical chops -- I'm not bothered about how they got there.
I've gotten jobs through my portfolio before as well. I have one fairly large but poorly written Ruby app, a handful of well-intentioned but abandoned projects, and an egotistical semi-blog (which has some cringe-worthy content that I really should edit ASAP ;-) ). As bad as my portfolio is, it is miles better than 99% of what I've seen (generally cut and paste rails projects).
For anybody with real talent this can be a differentiator. It will get you to an interview and give the interviewer something to ask questions about. For me what the OP built would be much more than enough to interest me if we were hiring an intern, but the point of linking to whatever else they have done is a very good one. Especially for a permanent position, I would be following up on that.
Even though you say that you don't care about a Github account when hiring, you went out of your way to look at this person's website on HN. I suspect that it made a bigger impression on you than if the person had simply emailed you a Word file with their CV. The fact that the person cares enough to craft something and show it off says something about them.
Personally, I go and look at every single portfolio that gets sent to me. If there is anything half way interesting on there it gets an automatic telephone interview even if their CV is otherwise unappealing. I'm looking for people with decent technical chops -- I'm not bothered about how they got there.
I've gotten jobs through my portfolio before as well. I have one fairly large but poorly written Ruby app, a handful of well-intentioned but abandoned projects, and an egotistical semi-blog (which has some cringe-worthy content that I really should edit ASAP ;-) ). As bad as my portfolio is, it is miles better than 99% of what I've seen (generally cut and paste rails projects).
For anybody with real talent this can be a differentiator. It will get you to an interview and give the interviewer something to ask questions about. For me what the OP built would be much more than enough to interest me if we were hiring an intern, but the point of linking to whatever else they have done is a very good one. Especially for a permanent position, I would be following up on that.
A problem you might find here is that people with actual real world experience but without being 'rockstars' are stifled by contracts that stop them being able to have a decent github account.
Of course in many cases you can't just publish internal code from your place of work but a lot seem to also include clauses that claim ownership of anything you do outside of work too. Personally speaking that's why my own github account is full of tumbleweeds anyway
Of course in many cases you can't just publish internal code from your place of work but a lot seem to also include clauses that claim ownership of anything you do outside of work too. Personally speaking that's why my own github account is full of tumbleweeds anyway
I hear you. I have lived through that. When I worked at a few Microsoft partners back in the bad old days I even had stipulations in my contract that I wasn't allowed to contribute to free software projects without permission. Every time I asked for permission I was denied. When I was young I put up with it because progressing in these companies seemed to be important to me. Now I simply would not sign such a contract. I'm a contractor now and so I'm a lot more free than before, however in my last job I got explicit assurances up front that I was allowed to write my own code.
Luckily there are a lot of places around that will accommodate you these days. They may not be the highest paying jobs, but I'm willing to take a huge pay cut to ensure my freedom to code.
Luckily there are a lot of places around that will accommodate you these days. They may not be the highest paying jobs, but I'm willing to take a huge pay cut to ensure my freedom to code.
Indeed, but many company don't want to hire people who just take, have a decent life using free software, but never take the extra mile or sacrifice free time to contribute back.
It doesn't really matter much to me whether the projects somebody has worked on are open-source. But if they can't be demonstrated to exist, that's something else entirely.
Well, I have a pretty good github profile https://github.com/apsdehal but I still had a hard time finding intern this year. So I would say most of the github profile doesn't matter much, but it sure makes you look impressive. Also as far as I have experienced, if you apply in big companies, nothing matters for internship, only thing you should know is competitive programming.
Having a quick scan of your Github profile it looks like a lot of lists or collections of things or forks. I think you may be suffering from information overload as I was unable to find a decent example of code within 30 or so seconds
For a front end web dev that makes sense. If you have been working on e.g. internal tools or some other proprietary stuff for a long time, how are you supposed to prove their existence?
Obviously it doesn't apply to everything. But for something like a public website or mobile app that would be reasonably expected to be easily findable, the fact that it isn't is weird. One project like that makes me wonder what the situation is; several make me suspicious.
For what it's worth, some Googling turned up these links:
http://www.spse-po.sk/web/
https://github.com/mochja/odovzdaj.to
but it shouldn't have been so difficult to find them.
For what it's worth, some Googling turned up these links:
http://www.spse-po.sk/web/
https://github.com/mochja/odovzdaj.to
but it shouldn't have been so difficult to find them.
I promise you I can figure out if you can code or not in about 15 minutes. I don't mean cobble together Angular and Bootstrap. I need to figure out if you can actually code and what kind of person you are to work with.
Comments like this make me think that I never want to be interviewed by you. What do you think about going over code that someone has written previously and asking them questions about it? Do you ask the same coding questions every time?
Nope. Why would I ask the same coding questions every time? Nobody has written the same code or worked on exactly the same problems with exactly the same tools during exactly the same time.
I would question you on the specific things YOU wrote and how YOU would solve problems.
I would question you on the specific things YOU wrote and how YOU would solve problems.
I haven't taken GitHub into consideration in hiring; it doesn't matter where the source code is. Just show me that you are passionate about what you do, that you enjoy learning and can learn well from others, can work as part of a team, and that you have some code out there that demonstrates what you've played around with.
I'd be cautious if an employer wanted you to specifically have a GitHub account.
I'd be cautious if an employer wanted you to specifically have a GitHub account.
Maybe there's a market out there for "ghost developers", i.e. programmers who manage activity on the Github accounts of other programmers, the aptitudally-challenged types who need them to cheat interviews as they hop their way through technical jobs on their way to a career in IT management.
I've hired a lot of developers over the last 10 years and I put a lot of stock in guys contributing to open source or showing their work and interacting with the public.
>"over the last 15 years"
Well in the past several years I've worked with a lot of developers and I care a lot about their github/bug tracker/public accounts. I don't care if there aren't a lot of repos or projects... just that they're active participants in software and CS. Github is a pretty good indicator of that. Bug trackers are another great indicator. Seeing someone rant about: 500 errors on a website, poor extensibility in an API/lib, unexpected CLI behavior -- those are good signs that the person cares about their chosen profession.
Coding is only one part of engineering. Being able to work with a team, recognize requirements, and ship are other important components. I find that engineers who have strong profiles on SO, github, bug trackers -- they tend to ship. They may not be the best coders in the world but from a business stand point that doesn't really matter. The best ideas in the world are useless if they never get shipped.
Well in the past several years I've worked with a lot of developers and I care a lot about their github/bug tracker/public accounts. I don't care if there aren't a lot of repos or projects... just that they're active participants in software and CS. Github is a pretty good indicator of that. Bug trackers are another great indicator. Seeing someone rant about: 500 errors on a website, poor extensibility in an API/lib, unexpected CLI behavior -- those are good signs that the person cares about their chosen profession.
Coding is only one part of engineering. Being able to work with a team, recognize requirements, and ship are other important components. I find that engineers who have strong profiles on SO, github, bug trackers -- they tend to ship. They may not be the best coders in the world but from a business stand point that doesn't really matter. The best ideas in the world are useless if they never get shipped.
I have no (public) github account and I approve this message.
Out of the 120 developers where I work, about 5 have active github accounts.
Hiring based on github is ridiculous.
Hiring based on github is ridiculous.
I don't expect to see one for professional devs, a lot of time what we develop we aren't allowed to share. Or, if its a side project, its not necessarily open source.
However, for college grads, or those without a CS degree and transitioning from a bootcamp, a github account really sets you apart and is becoming a must.
However, for college grads, or those without a CS degree and transitioning from a bootcamp, a github account really sets you apart and is becoming a must.
I don't agree with that. I actively hire guys off of internship. I welcome it. And I've even told guys when they were good enough to get more money somewhere else and I couldn't get it approved to keep them. Because a few years later, when they are established and I'm hiring that level of dev, I want to be able to try and get them again. And I have.
I don't really need to see a GitHub account. Actually, I don't want to see it at all, because I don't have time. Let's just talk about what you've built, what got you excited and what types of things you like to really get heads down in. I'm going to slip in some tech questions during the conversation but if you're a solid programmer you probably won't even notice it. If you're not, you're going to give me a deer-in-headlights look or worse, try to bullshit me. I'm not going to call you on it, but I'm not going to hire you, either.
I don't really need to see a GitHub account. Actually, I don't want to see it at all, because I don't have time. Let's just talk about what you've built, what got you excited and what types of things you like to really get heads down in. I'm going to slip in some tech questions during the conversation but if you're a solid programmer you probably won't even notice it. If you're not, you're going to give me a deer-in-headlights look or worse, try to bullshit me. I'm not going to call you on it, but I'm not going to hire you, either.
Are any of those 5 githubbers in the "lower half" amongst all 120 developers?
Mixed. It's mostly people with interest in open-source. Or some people that encountered bugs, fixed them and then abandoned/forgot their github account.
That being said, we use private bitbuckets for all things internal. It's not as if people couldn't work with git. People are simply not interested in open source / github.
That said, english is a second language here, so that may explain why people are not interested in working on open source projects that are mostly made in english.
That being said, we use private bitbuckets for all things internal. It's not as if people couldn't work with git. People are simply not interested in open source / github.
That said, english is a second language here, so that may explain why people are not interested in working on open source projects that are mostly made in english.
Well since GitHub is only ~5 years old it is not very surprising...
I'm more likely to ask what source control you have used. If you say Git, I'm going to ask why. I'm going to figure out if you really understand source code or you just use what's popular. That is not a statement about Git or any other source control. But I don't need to see your github account to figure out what level of developer you are (or what level you think you are).
I use git because I was taught it and have found no reason to transition elsewhere. I know that's not a good reason to use git. If I'm to consider alternatives, I'm going to have to set aside the 10 million other things I could be learning, many of which are actual obstacles to my workflow.
Oh, I could learn SVN. Or Mercurial. Or Node.js, Groovy, MFC, solaris, AngularJS, Adobe Illustrator, Guitar, Unicode, Python, Web Services, Satellite Radio, JNI, C#, Haskell metaprogramming, Android, Client-server models, Nuclear Physics, ASP.net, Flex/Yacc, Cocoa, COM, Blender, DOM, TCP/IP, XML, Finance, Azure, Cassandra, VIM, Emacs, Arch Linux, Regex, Category Theory, Statistics, Maya, Color models, IEEE-754, Compiler optimization, OS design, Database management, LINQ, Piano, Struts, ML, Prolog, Scheme, Homotopy Type Theory, NLTK, GTK+, X windows, WPF, ...
Why would anyone care that I know git and haven't explored other options? Do you happen to need someone who can write source control software?
Oh, I could learn SVN. Or Mercurial. Or Node.js, Groovy, MFC, solaris, AngularJS, Adobe Illustrator, Guitar, Unicode, Python, Web Services, Satellite Radio, JNI, C#, Haskell metaprogramming, Android, Client-server models, Nuclear Physics, ASP.net, Flex/Yacc, Cocoa, COM, Blender, DOM, TCP/IP, XML, Finance, Azure, Cassandra, VIM, Emacs, Arch Linux, Regex, Category Theory, Statistics, Maya, Color models, IEEE-754, Compiler optimization, OS design, Database management, LINQ, Piano, Struts, ML, Prolog, Scheme, Homotopy Type Theory, NLTK, GTK+, X windows, WPF, ...
Why would anyone care that I know git and haven't explored other options? Do you happen to need someone who can write source control software?
Well, for starters, the person interviewing you (in this case, ME) DOES know all of the different source control versions. That doesn't mean you have to know them, but it does matter to me why you think yours is best. Mercurial guys think theirs is best. SVN guys think theirs is best. Why? Why not? That tells me a lot more about how you think as a developer than which tool you actually use.
I mean, I had to use ClearCase for years and hated it. But I know how it works and why I hated it.
I mean, I had to use ClearCase for years and hated it. But I know how it works and why I hated it.
But I don't think mine is best, I think it is merely good enough.
From this end, it would strike me as a hypocrisy: "I don't care which religion you follow, so long as you believe the one you follow is the best and you can rationalize that to yourself."
That doesn't really tell you much. It's like if you are interviewing a philosopher and say "where is your toga and beard? How you choose your toga and beard style is important to evaluating what kind of philosopher you are." What are you basing that on? Why do you think source control selection is relevant to the work you are trying to do?
It seems to me like a totally pointless question, except for the fact that it is a question and it will fill the time and require someone to talk.
From this end, it would strike me as a hypocrisy: "I don't care which religion you follow, so long as you believe the one you follow is the best and you can rationalize that to yourself."
That doesn't really tell you much. It's like if you are interviewing a philosopher and say "where is your toga and beard? How you choose your toga and beard style is important to evaluating what kind of philosopher you are." What are you basing that on? Why do you think source control selection is relevant to the work you are trying to do?
It seems to me like a totally pointless question, except for the fact that it is a question and it will fill the time and require someone to talk.
"Because it's popular" is a great way to pick your plumbing, though. The opposite is the awesome developer who is so religious about all the tools and languages that he uses that nobody wants to work with them.
It's a good place to start. But I want to know that the person using a tool has a better understanding of what they are using than "everybody else uses it".
The most popular solution could be the best one. I just want to hire people who think for themselves because I don't have time to do their thinking for them. But first I need to make sure they are really adept at problem solving and can adapt.
The most popular solution could be the best one. I just want to hire people who think for themselves because I don't have time to do their thinking for them. But first I need to make sure they are really adept at problem solving and can adapt.
I think he was referring to sites that allow you to manage and collaborate with others, etc. e.g., sourceforge
It's a little bit more than that: around 7 years old.
As a student, when you don’t have a lot of professional experience, having a good GitHub profile is a huge advantage in some companies. I got my current internship because of that. And the last one. And the one before.
And other hiring managers do care, like the guy who wrote this article HN discussed a couple of days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9447173
I have also hired a lot of devs, I love it when they have a github account, especially those with less experience or as interns.
Yes you are right man. I wanted to add links on that stuff in next commit.
Hey Marek, I see you've been accepted at UCL, would you like to check out what London is like?
We at HackCampus http://hackcampus.io/ could offer you a 10-week internship at some amazing startups (GoCardless, SwiftKey, Kano and more) in London this summer. It's well-paid, and we'll give you free accommodation over the summer with a batch of other awesome student hackers like yourself.
http://hackcampus.io/internship/
I can give you more details over email, harry at hackcampus.io :)
We at HackCampus http://hackcampus.io/ could offer you a 10-week internship at some amazing startups (GoCardless, SwiftKey, Kano and more) in London this summer. It's well-paid, and we'll give you free accommodation over the summer with a batch of other awesome student hackers like yourself.
http://hackcampus.io/internship/
I can give you more details over email, harry at hackcampus.io :)
#Not Marek
Wanted to apply on your website, during registration received error 500, then CSRF verification failed. Request Aborted. And then My username is taken.
Reproduce-able too, I guess I should stop being admin and go into QA? :D
Wanted to apply on your website, during registration received error 500, then CSRF verification failed. Request Aborted. And then My username is taken.
Reproduce-able too, I guess I should stop being admin and go into QA? :D
Thanks, we just found out! This definitely worked for several weeks previously, ha. We're looking into it right now.
Hello, I've just applied for that amazing opportunity. Thanks for posting. One thing I've noticed for which I'm too shy to send you an e-mail is if you go to :
http://hackcampus.io/internship/settings/ it says :
Username Enter your current password.
Just thought I should let you know, again, great opportunity hope I have the opportunity to meet with you someday :).
http://hackcampus.io/internship/settings/ it says :
Username Enter your current password.
Just thought I should let you know, again, great opportunity hope I have the opportunity to meet with you someday :).
Is this only for students in the UK ?
Nope, anybody who is legally allowed to work in the UK (so EU member states included)
Do you have any students or know or any place that would be interested in interning for digital marketing, growth hacking, social media related work? And does the payment come from the start-up or from sort of fund you have setup?
Would love to chat further if you have time. Kam[at]krmmalik dot com
Thank you.
Thank you.
If you guys are real "hackers", why can't I just log in with my GitHub? I mean I don't want to fill out a custom username/password for your site when all my coding related stuff can be regulated from GitHub Auth.
I have no association to hackcampus. But if they're fairly new, that kind of feature (to save you probably less than a minute, and not applicable to a many of their applicants) might well be on the list, but shouldn't be top-priority.
Nice looking site!
One piece of advice: don't put C, C++, etc on your resume unless you're really comfortable with those languages and want to focus on them. Your resume highlights your design skills and projects using web technologies. Great! Focus on those!
For example, your Github has no examples of C programming skills and your resume doesn't highlight any projects where you'd likely use C. If you were interested in getting an internship where you'd primarily be programming in C you'd be better off focusing on highlighting projects that interest you which use that language. You'd stand out if you had contributions on Github or your own libraries or applications on Github written in C.
One piece of advice: don't put C, C++, etc on your resume unless you're really comfortable with those languages and want to focus on them. Your resume highlights your design skills and projects using web technologies. Great! Focus on those!
For example, your Github has no examples of C programming skills and your resume doesn't highlight any projects where you'd likely use C. If you were interested in getting an internship where you'd primarily be programming in C you'd be better off focusing on highlighting projects that interest you which use that language. You'd stand out if you had contributions on Github or your own libraries or applications on Github written in C.
he says 'a basic understanding of...', and 'code a simple app using...' it's clearly not the focus, but i don't see any problem with that. the only thing i take away is 'he won't run away in terror if i show him some c++'.
A lot of interviewers like to ensure that you're comfortable with pointers and the distinction between the stack and the heap. It can be nice to list a familiarity on your resume just to let people know that you're comfortable with those kinds of questions.
From the source :
<!-- Hello stranger... Yep! I write clean code, enjoy it! :) -->
Hahah, you sure know HN! Good luck!
<!-- Hello stranger... Yep! I write clean code, enjoy it! :) -->
Hahah, you sure know HN! Good luck!
Just fyi, you have a typo on your "What can I bring to your team?" page. You misspelled "radically" as "radicaly".
Otherwise it looks great -- good going! Very impressive for a high-school student.
Otherwise it looks great -- good going! Very impressive for a high-school student.
Also it should be "special prize", not "special price".
And yeah, I do feel kinda awkward criticizing such a beautiful portfolio for its grammar :)
And yeah, I do feel kinda awkward criticizing such a beautiful portfolio for its grammar :)
Also "databeses" in the "Experience with databeses" line.
Databese should be an alternate term for big data.
This needs to happen.
New CV item: coined the avant garde term "databese".
Perilously close to the politically-incorrect "databetes."
how about Databetes?
While we're at it, under 'Upload.it' you wrote:
App to make uploading and downloading exam results more easier.
Just need to take out "more"
App to make uploading and downloading exam results more easier.
Just need to take out "more"
> App to make uploading and downloading exam results more easier.
Unless he wanted to keep the emphasis and them "much easier" would be a nice fit.
Unless he wanted to keep the emphasis and them "much easier" would be a nice fit.
And on his resume under Design Skills it says "Web Desing" not "Web Design".
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I don't see anything exceptional about this. There are a lot of tutorials and a lot of sites guiding you through building a site like that.
You should never put yourself in a situation to ask for something. You must put others in the situation to ask for you. Making a website like countless others and having no substantial code to back off what you are claiming, won't put you in front of countless of other talented people that are a lot more humble than you. Talented companies have talented eyes seeking for talent, don't put only a good mask on. I wanted to say this, because I want you in a good company and I hope that you will get the best of life. Keep working on your path: mastering a framework is tenfold valuable than a "simple understanding". Regards
Maybe because he's 19?
I agree though. This is not exceptional or very impressive. I don't really get why this has more upvotes than the 14 year old kid who posted a relatively way cooler site that utilized a bunch of APIs, etc.
I agree though. This is not exceptional or very impressive. I don't really get why this has more upvotes than the 14 year old kid who posted a relatively way cooler site that utilized a bunch of APIs, etc.
He is young, surely, but in this very moment, there are silent young people on GitHub with exceptional projects. There are some people in their early-20 that are proving to be exceptional in the startup and the programming world. Maybe we are stuck in time when we started: back in the days Internet was more like a myth than a resource. And this feat would have been amazing. Nowadays you can nearly be a programmer without knowing how to program. Today the entry level was lowered exponentially... Back in the days there was an obscure manual and in a lot of cases written in another language with the need to go to the university and be laughed on the face, because you were too young, with a question that neither the professor was able to answer... And this was the easy part. For the hard part... Let the reminiscence kicks in and be amazed to how far we have gone. Learning alone like 20 years ago, could be outlawed as torture now lol
Why do we all have to be young?
I'm 27 years old (am I still young?) and started self teaching 2 years ago. I'm creating an API for poets/poetry because it doesn't exist. I'm implementing my own API to serve the poems and let users metaphorically match their favorite poems to their favorite alcoholic beverages; poetryandalcohol.com (not up yet). I'm also working on something similar to Yummly and BigOven, however, not only let's users plan their meals, but incorporates the USDA food prices API to let them know how much their grocery list will be for the week or whatever.
I have no reminiscing to do. The internet has ALWAYS been a resource for me. But in different ways.
The feat this gentleman has made is no less than that of twenty years ago. You still need a degree to get an entry level job of the same sort as ten years ago. In fact, I'd argue that twenty years ago, people didn't care if you had a degree or not in computer science, so long as you had the experience/could prove you can do the work. Today, it's not only a degree/experience, which this person has BARELY showed (aw crap, I forgot he's 19), but you also need side projects, open source contributions, and a penchant for motivation. I'd say it's still torture for us self-taughts who work in a warehouse 9-5 filling orders for computer fans at a median wage.
I'm 27 years old (am I still young?) and started self teaching 2 years ago. I'm creating an API for poets/poetry because it doesn't exist. I'm implementing my own API to serve the poems and let users metaphorically match their favorite poems to their favorite alcoholic beverages; poetryandalcohol.com (not up yet). I'm also working on something similar to Yummly and BigOven, however, not only let's users plan their meals, but incorporates the USDA food prices API to let them know how much their grocery list will be for the week or whatever.
I have no reminiscing to do. The internet has ALWAYS been a resource for me. But in different ways.
The feat this gentleman has made is no less than that of twenty years ago. You still need a degree to get an entry level job of the same sort as ten years ago. In fact, I'd argue that twenty years ago, people didn't care if you had a degree or not in computer science, so long as you had the experience/could prove you can do the work. Today, it's not only a degree/experience, which this person has BARELY showed (aw crap, I forgot he's 19), but you also need side projects, open source contributions, and a penchant for motivation. I'd say it's still torture for us self-taughts who work in a warehouse 9-5 filling orders for computer fans at a median wage.
Drive and ambition are more valuable than "look what cool thing I made". You can teach talent; you can't teach motivation.
Well, okay. I see where you're coming from but you can absolutely teach motivation. It is, however, extremely harder, because motivation is not as tangible as talent in the case of the individual. I mean, I'm not sure I'm not alone in wishing my own motivation at 19 was matched by this very motivated person.
I think, however, that is the idea of this community. The I-Wish-I-Executed-My-Idea-At-19 types Even-Though-I-Only-Have-Words-And-College-Classes-To-Show-For-It. Maybe I'm wrong.
I think, however, that is the idea of this community. The I-Wish-I-Executed-My-Idea-At-19 types Even-Though-I-Only-Have-Words-And-College-Classes-To-Show-For-It. Maybe I'm wrong.
The sort of motivation I'm talking about you can't be taught:
https://www.quora.com/How-can-I-be-as-great-as-Bill-Gates-St...
https://www.quora.com/How-can-I-be-as-great-as-Bill-Gates-St...
Well, then your previous definition is moot. Also, if you're interested in it further, I suggest Interest and Effort by John Dewey..
Congrats. You put a lot of American job seeking college kids to shame.
I'm a 20yo college student...definitely feeling inferior for not being this proactive as a high schooler. But I'm currently in my second internship and I can definitely say I got hired because of personal projects such as this that highlight your skills and your interest in using those skills inside and outside of class/work environments, so great job and good luck!
This guy is selling out hard. Coming from a guy with a more active GitHub and projects, I don't see how this guy is any different than any American college kid.
He isn't much different from a run of the mill college kid. He just has a "startup style" website with gratuitous pictures of himself all over it. It's called "personal marketing." Apparently software engineers are supposed to do that nowadays - our code no longer speaks for itself.
code still speaks for itself. it just has to be framed and delivered to an audience. your side project that's sitting on your hard drive or even your unpublicized github account isn't doing you any good.
Um... I am old and I don't have time to work on side projects - I have dying parents I need to spend time with because I won't get that time back. I have friends that live all over the East Coast now and visiting them is very important and now time consuming. My point is this is incredibly superficial and the stuff that matters (his actual work) gets lost in all the needless fluff.
Plus I'm too busy getting my actual work done to "market" myself.
Plus I'm too busy getting my actual work done to "market" myself.
You've got your thing going on and he's got his. There's no one right answer to life. It's all good.
Standard American college kid doesn't really have opensource contributions to speak of.
Since he's from Slovakia, does he have the visa status to work in the US? Will a startup go through H1-B process for a summer intern?
Also, if he doesn't go through the formal visa process and tries to do his summer internship with a visitor visa, he may be banned from the US for 10 years. Given that he's publicly publicizing coming to the US to work, it would be very easy for USCIS to block his entry into the US.
Also, if he doesn't go through the formal visa process and tries to do his summer internship with a visitor visa, he may be banned from the US for 10 years. Given that he's publicly publicizing coming to the US to work, it would be very easy for USCIS to block his entry into the US.
As others mentioned, J1 is the visa for this.
I'd suggest checking this out: http://culturalvistas.org/
I'd suggest checking this out: http://culturalvistas.org/
Having just got a J1 visa myself, he'd be well served with J1. It lets you work in the US for up to 6 months in an internship. Might still be time!
But will it cause him any problems if he wants to come to the US to work or go to school in the near term after his internship? From what I remember, don't J1 visas require you to return to your home country for a certain period of time? It was something we (in the US) worried about when thinking about having an intern from India who was planning to attend graduate school in the US in a year or so...
I don't think so, Slovakia isn't on the skills list[0]
[0] http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/study-exchange...
[0] http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/study-exchange...
He doesn't say that he wants to work in the US though, or maybe I have missed it.
But there are some pretty cool startups in Europe too, and given that Slovakia is part of Schengen he wouldn't have any problems with the visa if he were to work in Europe.
But there are some pretty cool startups in Europe too, and given that Slovakia is part of Schengen he wouldn't have any problems with the visa if he were to work in Europe.
Meta keywords in HTML source include palo alto and california, so that's a strong indicator.
> But there are some pretty cool startups in Europe too, and given that Slovakia is part of Schengen he wouldn't have any problems with the visa if he were to work in Europe.
Schengen does not abolish visas across member states, as they had already been non-existent. Schengen removes border control. Visas and work permits are abolished as part of EU treaty.
> But there are some pretty cool startups in Europe too, and given that Slovakia is part of Schengen he wouldn't have any problems with the visa if he were to work in Europe.
Schengen does not abolish visas across member states, as they had already been non-existent. Schengen removes border control. Visas and work permits are abolished as part of EU treaty.
> Schengen does not abolish visas across member states, as they had already been non-existent.
I think that's not entirely true, as countries like Switzerland or Norway are not part of EU, so they have had visas which were abolished with Schengen.
I think that's not entirely true, as countries like Switzerland or Norway are not part of EU, so they have had visas which were abolished with Schengen.
It's probably even more complex than that. Just took a quick look at the original Schengen Agreement: they only talk about harmonising visa policy. According to Wiki, visa policy is still set by the EU and all members of Schengen Area must abide by it.
Very nice. Just one tip – in one of your testimonials Cristina uses the word "pedant". She probably meant you're good with details (or that you're a good teacher), but at least in the US, that word almost always has the negative connotation of being too concerned with details.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pedant
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pedant
> "There is still 1 month, 1 day, 6 hours, 55 minutes and 21 seconds until summer, which gives me a lot of time to learn new skills that you might need!"
Awesome attitude towards learning new skills!
Awesome attitude towards learning new skills!
Why do you want to intern? Seems like with your skills you could just work (and get paid for) a real job.
I don't know if that's the case here, but a lot of European colleges require summer internships. Compensation is sometimes permitted, but status of employment must be an internship.
He may be implying that he might as well work now and do college later if he feels like it.
I went this course. I started working in my current office as a high school co-op and 4-5 years later I'm still here. I might as well work now earning a good salary and go to college whenever I feel like it.
I went this course. I started working in my current office as a high school co-op and 4-5 years later I'm still here. I might as well work now earning a good salary and go to college whenever I feel like it.
Uhh, I've never seen that to be the case and I'm from Europe.
Germany here. I know plenty of people that have done internships because their degree required it.
After or during studies, yes, but not as pre-requisite.
Europe big place
I'm from the US and my school required 1 year co-op experience as a pre-req for completing the degree.
In the US tech industry, internships are actually fantastic, fantastic investments. You get paid incredibly well, get good names on your resume without 2+ year long commitments, get to network with a variety of people (2-4 companies/regions/industries in 2-4 years) and gives you amazing bargaining power when you head into a full time position.
It's been my experience that tech internships are paid some reasonable fraction of what a full timer would get in exchange for a more interested program of work - I get paid 50% of what a full timer does, but I get more training and more flexibility in what I work on.
A lot of places won't hire someone full-time for just the summer. I was in the same situation: I could have applied for a full-time job, but I can't be full time once school starts up again.
Agreed, if indeed he is using "internship" to mean "unpaid internship". Far too much importance is placed on unpaid work these days, particularly in tech, and it just isn't needed. He clearly has enough experience to spend his summer doing actual work, and should be compensated for it.
Generally speaking in the US unpaid internships are illegal (for for profit companies) if the employee is doing real work that brings business value to the company.... The DOL has a six point test to see if an employee needs to be paid:
http://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs71.pdf
http://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs71.pdf
Doing an internship is sometimes more 'profitable' than not doing one. If you go with one of the big companies, you'll have a similar to full-time new grad salary plus free accommodation of really high quality that would normally cost you in the Bay Area easily upwards of 3k a month.
This is better than the websites of half the web agencies out there.
You should remove the word "with" from those titles - the bullet points don't flow properly when appended to the titles
Listen to this person. This is the one glaring thing I noticed, it makes your wording sound stereotypically Eastern European, and is jarring in comparison to a document that otherwise flows quite well.
Small advice: do something with those brackets. They are in the middle of the page and their misalignment with coding skills section is infuriating (at least for me).
Talk about being web savvy at intern age..
I increasingly come to expect this sort of product since kids coming up expect their products to be like this.
He may be a leader in this, but the group coming up definitely will be demonstrating the "Yes, and..." attitude in terms of design and features. The new kids invigorate the game, which is great.
He may be a leader in this, but the group coming up definitely will be demonstrating the "Yes, and..." attitude in terms of design and features. The new kids invigorate the game, which is great.
Great work!
One thing - pretty much everything you wrote is about you...Which is great, but it would be more compelling if removed any mention of yourself and made it all about the company who is going to hire you.
One thing - pretty much everything you wrote is about you...Which is great, but it would be more compelling if removed any mention of yourself and made it all about the company who is going to hire you.
Hey your resume looks impressive. Can you tell me how you made the resume? Latex or anything? The design and presentation of skills is great! I'm 20 too and want to update my resume.
Creator : PDF Presentation Adobe Photoshop CC 2014
I think he used InDesign or some other software like that.
Your page looks great, the photo is really nice and the mailto title is a nice touch.
<shamelessplug> I should've thought about submitting to HN too :) http://simon-schraeder.de/summer/
<shamelessplug> I should've thought about submitting to HN too :) http://simon-schraeder.de/summer/
Sounds like you could have fun with our team at JustWatch... </shameless self plug>
Just sayin :)
I'm confused - where does he want to work? Domain is "hostmeinca" which I read as "Host me in Canada" but could mean California - and he doesn't really specify anything except that he lives in Slovakia right now.
This kid will go places.
seriously, that's a great looking resume - though it would be nice if i could click on one of the skills (e.g., Print Design) and see some examples
Thank you guys! :) I will probably add this feature or just send people more detailed portfolio via e-mail.
you are getting feature requests. Are you getting serious offers?
Seriously. Marek, if you're reading this - get a full-time job. People will pay you serious money for your work and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
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He is the swiss knife of the interns..
I would love to make a resume page like this, and have the balls to publicize it, I just have this super strong aversion to do such a thing because of the amount of creepy people on the internet.
Guess I'll be that guy - the design and content is nice and well done, but this is just bootstrap copy/paste to me; I don't see a lot of "coding talent" evident.
Not to say he doesn't have it, but creating a site like this basically requires finding a similar one and learning what classes to put into your bootstrap markup.
Not to say he doesn't have it, but creating a site like this basically requires finding a similar one and learning what classes to put into your bootstrap markup.
For what its worth, I agree with you. That is to say, I feel like a lot of the people here giving out praise are being a bit excessive with it and this is simply a flavour of the day paint by numbers web page. Still, it's a good effort for a kid in college looking to get an internship.
tbf he is looking for an internship
FYI in the US it is considered inappropriate to have your picture on a resume.
If he were sending a standard printed resume through the mail then you might have a point. This online version is something different and I doubt that anyone looking for talent would disqualify him for having his picture on there.
I'll be completely honest and say that it makes me feel slightly awkward because it's a major component of the resume and yet is completely irrelevant for deciding if he's qualified or not. To me, it's distracting and actually makes me feel slightly pressured to cut him some slack because he put in extra effort on making the resume pretty.
All that said, for someone who hasn't even started college yet, I think every little extra bit helps. I would never recommend this for an experienced hire or someone who's had several internships already in college, but for someone trying to break in for the first time any way you can find of displaying your interest and passion is going to help some.
All that said, for someone who hasn't even started college yet, I think every little extra bit helps. I would never recommend this for an experienced hire or someone who's had several internships already in college, but for someone trying to break in for the first time any way you can find of displaying your interest and passion is going to help some.
I have to be honest here....
I review resumes and have a say in hiring decisions in my company. I would probably have a tendency to disregard this resume because of the picture. It is pretty distracting and frankly makes me uncomfortable. I don't wish to evaluate a candidate based on their looks but this one says "my looks are important to my job qualifications." Perhaps I'm old fashion and this is over the top but it just rubs me the wrong way and I feel the "type" of candidate who includes a picture like that isn't the "type" of candidate I'd like to have on my team. It comes off to me as narcissistic.
Perhaps the younger, hipper crowd appreciates this sort of thing - if you are going for that type of work. Long established companies might pass this one up.
I might be completely out in left field here though.
I review resumes and have a say in hiring decisions in my company. I would probably have a tendency to disregard this resume because of the picture. It is pretty distracting and frankly makes me uncomfortable. I don't wish to evaluate a candidate based on their looks but this one says "my looks are important to my job qualifications." Perhaps I'm old fashion and this is over the top but it just rubs me the wrong way and I feel the "type" of candidate who includes a picture like that isn't the "type" of candidate I'd like to have on my team. It comes off to me as narcissistic.
Perhaps the younger, hipper crowd appreciates this sort of thing - if you are going for that type of work. Long established companies might pass this one up.
I might be completely out in left field here though.
I think it may be a cultural difference thing. In many parts of the world, including Eastern Europe it is common to provide your age and a photo on a resume.
Distracting? You can't see the photo when you're looking at the 'resume' part of the page.
It's pretty a standard marketing format - big friendly picture of one or two people from the waist up, whether it's a support person speaking into a headset or a hard-working suit-wearer tapping into a computer.
It's pretty a standard marketing format - big friendly picture of one or two people from the waist up, whether it's a support person speaking into a headset or a hard-working suit-wearer tapping into a computer.
I believe he/she was referring to the actual PDF resume (as was I): http://www.hostmeinca.com/cv/Marek-Dlugos-CV.pdf
Some larger corporations are required by company policy to throw out resumes with pictures on them (I know this from first hand experience). This is due to discrimination laws and attempts at eliminating bias.
Although it is a resume, it's also in a different medium than the resume 'rules' apply to. So I'd argue it's ok to break some of the typical rules.
As noted above, it's not a traditional resumé, and at least one study[1] has shown that attractive men benefit by attaching a photo.
[1] https://hbr.org/2012/03/photos-of-attractive-female-jo
[1] https://hbr.org/2012/03/photos-of-attractive-female-jo
With this crap becoming "standard" then the implication is if you don't include your photo with your "digital" resume or "social media" profiles you are undesirable/not an attractive male.
I'm in my 30s with 10 years of experience. I look like I'm 12. I get mistaken for a teenager - very often. Nobody will take me seriously if I include a picture with my resume.
I'm in my 30s with 10 years of experience. I look like I'm 12. I get mistaken for a teenager - very often. Nobody will take me seriously if I include a picture with my resume.
Good job he's not in the US then :)
US citizen here. I've attached a photo on my resume. No one has brought that up as a complaint for me.
At the same time, most companies check your social media profiles online and some even decide if they invite you to interviews based on what they see there.
I consider this outdated due to the age of Social Media where people can be easily searched up and identified to see what they look like.
The reasons for not attaching a photo are largely out of date.
The reasons for not attaching a photo are largely out of date.
The reason for not including pictures is entirely a legal issue. If a picture is included in the resume and the company decides to not hire that person (despite being qualified), they could sue for discrimination. If the company instead throws out ALL resumes with pictures, they don't ever get sued. Logically, any company that is large enough to have a legal team should be expected to throw out all resumes with pictures on them for this reason.
It is common practice at larger companies now to also obfuscate names of candidates to further eliminate bias and lawsuits.
It is common practice at larger companies now to also obfuscate names of candidates to further eliminate bias and lawsuits.
I'm well aware it's entirely a legal issue. Notice how I said the law is outdated? Laws aren't known for keeping up to date with technology.
Imagine a resume for a technological position as a programmer in a company. The person includes their Github account, where they are using a picture of themselves as their avatar. What do you do in that scenario? A personal picture is frequently used as an avatar on Github. Their repositories are highly relevant to the position in which they are applying - but you now have a photo of them.
Do you throw out the resume in fear of a discrimination lawsuit? Would you throw out a supermajority of the resumes you get because of this issue? Regardless of how qualified the individuals were?
Placing your Github handle is pretty common practice if you have good contributions. Using a picture of yourself as your avatar is also pretty common practice on Github.
Imagine a resume for a technological position as a programmer in a company. The person includes their Github account, where they are using a picture of themselves as their avatar. What do you do in that scenario? A personal picture is frequently used as an avatar on Github. Their repositories are highly relevant to the position in which they are applying - but you now have a photo of them.
Do you throw out the resume in fear of a discrimination lawsuit? Would you throw out a supermajority of the resumes you get because of this issue? Regardless of how qualified the individuals were?
Placing your Github handle is pretty common practice if you have good contributions. Using a picture of yourself as your avatar is also pretty common practice on Github.
The law doesn't say "you can't ask candidates for their photo" it says "you can't discriminate based on race/gender/pregnancy status/ethnicity/age (>40)/national origin in hiring practices."
If you are soliciting or encouraging photos of someone for a software job it looks suspicious - why would you need to know what a candidate looks like when looks aren't part of how well you can write software? Then you start looking like you plan to discriminate. The idea is not to solicit photos of candidates when their looks are irrelevant to the position. One HR policy may say "don't accept resume with photos so it doesn't look like we encourage all candidates to send them." Note: that isn't law but it could be company policy to protect them. Where the line is drawn probably varies by company and is probably arbitrary. Linking to your GitHub that happens to also contain your photo is probably not a big deal to anyone. Having an online resume where half the screen is taken up by your picture is different, it is no different than a paper resume that has your smiling face in the corner. I don't use GitHub (I don't have the time - I'm too old) but I understand it to be a more "social" and "casual" atmosphere which a photo is acceptable while a resume is a "professional" document that might also link to a more "casual" document.
The "rule of thumb" of not including your photo with a resume is because it is irrelevant to your job qualifications and was previously used to openly discriminate. This is a big deal since people here at HN have shared their stories of discrimination based on age - would someone who is aging an a little over weight want to dedicate half a computer screen to their picture?
Companies may just request that any information sent to them doesn't include a photo - this is a reasonable request. With this request they have covered their legal basis of saying "we aren't judging your resume based on how you look" but also might not throw out something that gives away your looks.
If you are soliciting or encouraging photos of someone for a software job it looks suspicious - why would you need to know what a candidate looks like when looks aren't part of how well you can write software? Then you start looking like you plan to discriminate. The idea is not to solicit photos of candidates when their looks are irrelevant to the position. One HR policy may say "don't accept resume with photos so it doesn't look like we encourage all candidates to send them." Note: that isn't law but it could be company policy to protect them. Where the line is drawn probably varies by company and is probably arbitrary. Linking to your GitHub that happens to also contain your photo is probably not a big deal to anyone. Having an online resume where half the screen is taken up by your picture is different, it is no different than a paper resume that has your smiling face in the corner. I don't use GitHub (I don't have the time - I'm too old) but I understand it to be a more "social" and "casual" atmosphere which a photo is acceptable while a resume is a "professional" document that might also link to a more "casual" document.
The "rule of thumb" of not including your photo with a resume is because it is irrelevant to your job qualifications and was previously used to openly discriminate. This is a big deal since people here at HN have shared their stories of discrimination based on age - would someone who is aging an a little over weight want to dedicate half a computer screen to their picture?
Companies may just request that any information sent to them doesn't include a photo - this is a reasonable request. With this request they have covered their legal basis of saying "we aren't judging your resume based on how you look" but also might not throw out something that gives away your looks.
The issue here isn't soliciting photos of candidates. In this case it's the employer possibly throwing out a perfectly fine resume because it includes a photo because of laws that do not account for the existence of social media profiles and the increasing likelihood that people have their actual visual personas online as pictures and avatars.
>Linking to your GitHub that happens to also contain your photo is probably not a big deal to anyone.
Nor should it be.
>Having an online resume where half the screen is taken up by your picture is different
Discriminating in 5 seconds after seeing the first image or discriminating after viewing the Github profile changes nothing if there is going to be discrimination (intentional or not) take place. In this case, his Github profile (which also contains his picture) is one of the first things you end up seeing while looking through his resume.
>Companies may just request that any information sent to them doesn't include a photo - this is a reasonable request. With this request they have covered their legal basis of saying "we aren't judging your resume based on how you look" but also might not throw out something that has a photo.
A statement that protects a company on legal grounds but is not actually enforceable is one of the issues with our legal system. This statement, if anything, introduces a legal scapegoat for actual discrimination and bias to take place without punishment. Any minority that sends or includes a picture by accident or slight could be tossed into the trash with this statement as the scapegoat. "We said not to include pictures or this might happen!" If anything it hurts more than helps.
The entire area of discrimination can be a tricky one - as proving it is discrimination is rather tricky and troublesome. This is why many discrimination lawsuits take place after a person has had an interview. Where, regardless of the lack of photo, your employer now knows what you look like and can openly discriminate against you.
Removing photos from resumes may lower open discrimination - but it also makes it more difficult to prosecute for discrimination. If an employer is throwing out any resume with a picture of a minority - it becomes far easier to prove they are discriminating against minorities. Wouldn't you agree?
Require a company to retain any applications from the past 6~12 months and to require photos. Discrimination based on age, race, or gender would be easier to prove - as well as if a candidate was lacking required credentials on their resume, etc.
I'm willing to hear flaws with my proposed method and how the current method is superior.
>Linking to your GitHub that happens to also contain your photo is probably not a big deal to anyone.
Nor should it be.
>Having an online resume where half the screen is taken up by your picture is different
Discriminating in 5 seconds after seeing the first image or discriminating after viewing the Github profile changes nothing if there is going to be discrimination (intentional or not) take place. In this case, his Github profile (which also contains his picture) is one of the first things you end up seeing while looking through his resume.
>Companies may just request that any information sent to them doesn't include a photo - this is a reasonable request. With this request they have covered their legal basis of saying "we aren't judging your resume based on how you look" but also might not throw out something that has a photo.
A statement that protects a company on legal grounds but is not actually enforceable is one of the issues with our legal system. This statement, if anything, introduces a legal scapegoat for actual discrimination and bias to take place without punishment. Any minority that sends or includes a picture by accident or slight could be tossed into the trash with this statement as the scapegoat. "We said not to include pictures or this might happen!" If anything it hurts more than helps.
The entire area of discrimination can be a tricky one - as proving it is discrimination is rather tricky and troublesome. This is why many discrimination lawsuits take place after a person has had an interview. Where, regardless of the lack of photo, your employer now knows what you look like and can openly discriminate against you.
Removing photos from resumes may lower open discrimination - but it also makes it more difficult to prosecute for discrimination. If an employer is throwing out any resume with a picture of a minority - it becomes far easier to prove they are discriminating against minorities. Wouldn't you agree?
Require a company to retain any applications from the past 6~12 months and to require photos. Discrimination based on age, race, or gender would be easier to prove - as well as if a candidate was lacking required credentials on their resume, etc.
I'm willing to hear flaws with my proposed method and how the current method is superior.
But how would you change laws to best account for this? It is not a trivial task, and current lawmakers are on average not very good with technology, so there would be a lot of research.
The best thing to do as an employer is to ask the candidate to directly provide code samples. If they don't understand why this would be necessary (or understand your explanation), they are probably not going to be a good employee anyway.
That said, when I receive github links with resumes, I always look at them (and often spend a long time reviewing the code). If the user has a non-picture avatar it is very relieving. I wish GitHub and LinkedIn would provide a build-in service to change your photo into an avatar or something to avoid this.
The best thing to do as an employer is to ask the candidate to directly provide code samples. If they don't understand why this would be necessary (or understand your explanation), they are probably not going to be a good employee anyway.
That said, when I receive github links with resumes, I always look at them (and often spend a long time reviewing the code). If the user has a non-picture avatar it is very relieving. I wish GitHub and LinkedIn would provide a build-in service to change your photo into an avatar or something to avoid this.
I don't believe it is out of date. The reason is the resume is the first impression of you - someone has to make a 60 second choice to look into you further - to call you or Google you. If you include a photo you are asking the company to evaluate your looks as part of the initial resume which have zero to do with your job qualifications. (we are talking about software here)
Like it or not employers make snap judgements without consciously thinking about it based on irrelevant characteristics. We know people with black sounding names get callbacks significantly less than white sounding names.[1] I can't imagine how much more difficult someone who was a dark skinned black would have it if they included a photo. Remember - employers give a resume a once over and their unconscious bias in in effect.
No hiring manager or HR person will tell you they are openly racist or disregard candidates based on their name - and they aren't lying! They just do it because social biases effect their evaluation without them realizing it. As much as we love to believe we are rational beings in a lot of ways we are not.
Also the reason why employers asked for a photo in a resume in the olden days was to openly discriminate against candidates. They didn't want to waste their time interviewing or following up with someone who is black, Hispanic, ugly[2], or a woman when they were seeking a white male. Their resume would just be discarded. Now that sort of discrimination is illegal in hiring so they stopped soliciting photos because they stopped (openly) taking that sort of information into consideration. Since your looks are irrelevant to the job they will often throw out resumes that contain photos so they aren't accused of taking looks into account when reviewing resumes.
[1] http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/28/opinion/nicholas-kristof-i...
[2]Being ugly/fat isn't a protected class under federal discrimination laws in the US.
Like it or not employers make snap judgements without consciously thinking about it based on irrelevant characteristics. We know people with black sounding names get callbacks significantly less than white sounding names.[1] I can't imagine how much more difficult someone who was a dark skinned black would have it if they included a photo. Remember - employers give a resume a once over and their unconscious bias in in effect.
No hiring manager or HR person will tell you they are openly racist or disregard candidates based on their name - and they aren't lying! They just do it because social biases effect their evaluation without them realizing it. As much as we love to believe we are rational beings in a lot of ways we are not.
Also the reason why employers asked for a photo in a resume in the olden days was to openly discriminate against candidates. They didn't want to waste their time interviewing or following up with someone who is black, Hispanic, ugly[2], or a woman when they were seeking a white male. Their resume would just be discarded. Now that sort of discrimination is illegal in hiring so they stopped soliciting photos because they stopped (openly) taking that sort of information into consideration. Since your looks are irrelevant to the job they will often throw out resumes that contain photos so they aren't accused of taking looks into account when reviewing resumes.
[1] http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/28/opinion/nicholas-kristof-i...
[2]Being ugly/fat isn't a protected class under federal discrimination laws in the US.
Times are changing. ;)
Translation: "Hi, I'm Marek Dlugos and I'm the most pretentious 19 year old ever"
You're the person that posted the same site two years back, right? (saw on your CV, and remembered the first site).
I was impressed at the time but alas am not in California. Did you ever find a host family in California when you posted this the first time?
I was impressed at the time but alas am not in California. Did you ever find a host family in California when you posted this the first time?
and they say geography isn't destiny. a design like this can get a solo founder a $2M valuation on an idea in the valley (making him an instant millionaire), whereas a slovakian is trying hard to close an internsihp (meaning he hasn't gotten $8/hr, or 1/250000th of that amount.)
1/250000th.
1/250000th.
I think you need a little bit more than a website to get a valuation...
Not if your product is... a website, like many startups are.
These companies products generally aren't simply a website - their web sites serve as a catalyst for delivering an actual product that provides functionality. The link is question isn't a product hosted on the web, its simply a personal website.
A design like that coupled with a product that people think has some value, perhaps.
Yes, of course. I said "on an idea" meaning a product that people think has some value -- but nothing more than this web site design around that idea.
Brilliant work. I wish I had your skills at 19. The photography and design mesh perfectly well together.
I bet you will have no problem getting to the USA to study and work.
I bet you will have no problem getting to the USA to study and work.
For work - what about H1B visa? Even if a company agrees to go through the process, he still has a slim chance of getting the visa, right?
I am just trying to familiarise myself to the process since I will be going through it next year.
I am just trying to familiarise myself to the process since I will be going through it next year.
You need a bachelors degree in order to get an H1B.
As long as you have enough money to pay tuition without scholarships (and paying the non-resident rate)... sure!
Being sarcastic here, finding a job (or studying as an undergraduate) in the U.S. as a foreigner unfortunately has very little to do with skills. Unless you have something very unique that a company decides to seek you out for!
Being sarcastic here, finding a job (or studying as an undergraduate) in the U.S. as a foreigner unfortunately has very little to do with skills. Unless you have something very unique that a company decides to seek you out for!
From the page source:
<!-- Hello stranger... Yep! I write clean code, enjoy it! :) -->
Nice.
<!-- Hello stranger... Yep! I write clean code, enjoy it! :) -->
Nice.
Honestly I was a little disappointed with a disclaimer like that: https://i.imgur.com/vqz9wRX.png
Looks like those are spaces, while everything else is tabs. Probably has his editor set tabs to 4 spaces where it matches up - Easy to overlook unless you have your editor show spaces with a character.
Personal Branding well done.
I'm once again proud to be a Slovak citizen. Firstly http://takemetosiliconvalley.com, now this. I should really do something too :D
I managed to graduate high school near the end of the early 90s recession, university at the beginning of the dot com bust, and B-School in the beginning of the 2008 meltdown.
I promise to never to go back to school again.
I promise to never to go back to school again.
Good god can we please stop with the photos? Do you people really want to go back to the 1950s where a photo was required with a resume? Do you really want your potential employers to be judging you on your looks/race/ethnicity at the resume stage? It may be beneficial to you (you are the "correct" race and gender and you look young and not ugly) but for those of us that aren't - we don't want pressure to include photos because that will make our resume look unattractive to potential employers.
This isn't a submitted resume, it's a marketing site.
Would you have all marketing sites also strip out photo portraits? A ton of enterprise services have landing pages with the portrait of an attractive support officer talking into a headset, or some besuited office worker tapping into a keyboard.
Would you have all marketing sites also strip out photo portraits? A ton of enterprise services have landing pages with the portrait of an attractive support officer talking into a headset, or some besuited office worker tapping into a keyboard.
Especially when his IG is way too overloaded with self-photo shoots :-)
Including a photo with resume/cv is much more common in Europe than the US.
The site looks great, I wish I had the frontend skills to do anything 5 times worst than this, I just don't get the sentence at the bottom:
> I HAVE DONE THIS SITE DURING ONE WEEK, INSTEAD OF LEARNING FOR MY LEAVING EXAMS AND PARTYING WITH MY FRIENDS. I HOPE IT IS GONNA BE WORTH IT!
Did you fail your exams? I had a feeling that you wanted to mention college is not that important because saying this is cool these days. Nevertheless, that's just my interpretation, kudos for the site and the projects listed.
> I HAVE DONE THIS SITE DURING ONE WEEK, INSTEAD OF LEARNING FOR MY LEAVING EXAMS AND PARTYING WITH MY FRIENDS. I HOPE IT IS GONNA BE WORTH IT!
Did you fail your exams? I had a feeling that you wanted to mention college is not that important because saying this is cool these days. Nevertheless, that's just my interpretation, kudos for the site and the projects listed.
Translation:
> I DID THIS SITE IN A WEEK INSTEAD OF STUDYING FOR MY EXIT EXAMS OR PARTYING WITH FRIENDS. I HOPE IT WAS WORTH IT!
> I DID THIS SITE IN A WEEK INSTEAD OF STUDYING FOR MY EXIT EXAMS OR PARTYING WITH FRIENDS. I HOPE IT WAS WORTH IT!
Very impressive...If your skills are as good as you claim, I'd hire you full-time now if I had an opening; you may want to reconsider whether finishing school is a worthwhile investment of your time and money.
One small tip on your site: Get rid of the word "with" in the "I can help you with" headings. It's grammatically incorrect for the way your lists are phrased, and having "I can help you" appear three times on the page is a nice subliminal message!
One small tip on your site: Get rid of the word "with" in the "I can help you with" headings. It's grammatically incorrect for the way your lists are phrased, and having "I can help you" appear three times on the page is a nice subliminal message!
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I hope this will not be the start of a spam-fest by others. Good luck with your job seeking.
Great job on your website. I would fill out your GitHub a little bit more so people can see your code. I'm jealous a little bit that I didn't get into web development as young as you did. Keep it up and continue to build awesome stuff!
Great markup - I especially enjoy that `<main>` is used for only (some wrapping `<div>`s and) an `<h1>` which conveys the authors main call: "This summer I’d like to be your Intern (June - September)"!
Wow there seems to be a lot of negative comments here. Do I sense a bit of jealousy?
Now you can add "Made it to the HN front page" to your resume!
Minor Typo in "<meta property="og:title" content="A 19 year old student student is looking for an internship">"
Great website! But FYI, in the "Just shoot me an email" part towards the bottom, the text goes outside the screen on my Samsung Galaxy S4
Nice shroom haircut.
This is great, I'm making my first website now and you've given me a lot of great ideas for design. And made me feel bad about mine!
Here's some more ideas:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9427856
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9427856
>Experience with databeses
Typo in "databeses"
Good looking resume (:
Typo in "databeses"
Good looking resume (:
Wish you best of luck dude, very well done.
Great resume. I agree with the others, I am jealous of the skills you have displayed at your age.
Now, I love that design ... it looks like we could never afford you. :)
You must have ideas? Skip all this and just run with one of those.
Great presentation and design skill, you'll def land something. Though if you want big 4 or even big 20 tech companies, then you'll need to show more real code. A good 20k loc app would be nice.
Seeing as how he is just finishing high school yet, I'm guessing he will have more code on his resume by the time he's looking for a job in 4 years. Although, with the speed of things, who knows what will be the hot skills then!
Eh, I mean the dude is 19 and in High School. I sure as heck didn't have time for a 20k app while in school.
Personal Branding!
I like the star graph in the bottom a lot :)
Really nice job. Fix the instagram link :)
Great stuff! I love how your CV looks.
Where are you hosting this website?
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small typo: "Experience with databeses."
Should be databases
Should be databases
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Did you steal some of that code from Visual Idiot instead of creating your own version?
http://www.hostmeinca.com/assets/js/animated-background.js
http://vaguelyexciting.com/js/site.js
Edit: Thanks HN; I wasn't aware the code was from Codrops. Move along, folks, nothing to see here.
Sorry dude! Nice site. Don't go for an internship though. You command an escalation of experience that opens doors to regular full time positions. You clearly don't know what you've got.
http://www.hostmeinca.com/assets/js/animated-background.js
http://vaguelyexciting.com/js/site.js
Edit: Thanks HN; I wasn't aware the code was from Codrops. Move along, folks, nothing to see here.
Sorry dude! Nice site. Don't go for an internship though. You command an escalation of experience that opens doors to regular full time positions. You clearly don't know what you've got.
"Steal" seems to be a slightly strong word. It looks like it's open source and just missing the license.[1]
I'd prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt rather than jump straight to accusations.
[1] I didn't look too hard, but I came up with this link quickly: https://gist.github.com/benjaminsinger/ad5231be7748de3a9a11#... - I didn't immediately see the license on the original it was forked from, but this one has a license, so I assume there's some sort of compatibility.
I'd prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt rather than jump straight to accusations.
[1] I didn't look too hard, but I came up with this link quickly: https://gist.github.com/benjaminsinger/ad5231be7748de3a9a11#... - I didn't immediately see the license on the original it was forked from, but this one has a license, so I assume there's some sort of compatibility.
His entire page is a composite of other people's open source work, the achievement isn't in writing anything new, it's just in how well it's been put together.
In other words, he can't create anything and will be useless for any decent company.
AFAIK This script came from Tympanus/Codrops, not VI. I've used a version of this script as well for a project. I mean, it'd be better if Marek used even a modified background instead of taking the entire example from Codrops, but I don't think it would be 'stealing' as much as reusing tutorial code.
Link - http://tympanus.net/codrops/2014/09/23/animated-background-h... (Click 'View Demo')
Link - http://tympanus.net/codrops/2014/09/23/animated-background-h... (Click 'View Demo')
Good to know!
http://codepen.io/MarcoGuglielmelli/details/lLCxy
Original author commented, and this was referenced:
http://tympanus.net/Development/AnimatedHeaderBackgrounds/
This seems to be the original author: http://rachsmith.com/
Are you positive in your claim that Visual Idiot owns the code?
Original author commented, and this was referenced:
http://tympanus.net/Development/AnimatedHeaderBackgrounds/
This seems to be the original author: http://rachsmith.com/
Are you positive in your claim that Visual Idiot owns the code?
Clearly I was wrong! I guess I'm not so in the know as I think I am. Thanks for the background info.
I think the code is on Github.
Stealing code is part of the job these days if a license allows.
There's no license there, so I'd have to assume he asked for permission.
I want to see how he approaches this. Since this site is about him and "his" work.
Interesting, how did you even catch this?
Visual Idiot is a notable name in the design community. It would be like stealing from Tobias Van Schneider or something. You can't get past people in the know.
But how did you even make the connection? I don't see the text "Visual Idiot" anywhere. And were you just browsing his js files? Or did the UI of the site feel familiar?
If you go to the Visual Idiot site it has the same background effect so if you've looked at both sites it would be a pretty easy observation.
I don't see the same background effect on this site. Where is it? I can see it on the VI page, though.
Almost at the bottom of the page with his contact info:
http://www.hostmeinca.com/#cta
http://www.hostmeinca.com/#cta
Ah, I just went to http://vaguelyexciting.com/. I'm assuming you recognized the moving dots/lines and made then connection yourself, then compared JS files to confirm.
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"steal" as if you never used someone else's code. There's not even a notice on the original, I'm hard pressed to find him at fault.
Can't speak for that poster, but while I've used other people's code for educational purposes I am not aware of a time when I've used someone else's code against its restrictions. And bear in mind that code without a license notice is not a free-for-all, it's restricted until other rights are explicitly granted.
(I have no opinion on this situation nor am I qualified to judge it. Other people have a more fully-formed opinion than I do, and it does sound like it's properly open-sourced anyway.)
(I have no opinion on this situation nor am I qualified to judge it. Other people have a more fully-formed opinion than I do, and it does sound like it's properly open-sourced anyway.)
He should make an effort to attribute the work that isn't his.
> There's not even a notice on the original
No license on the original means you don't have the right to use it.
No license on the original means you don't have the right to use it.
So, my piece of advice: do not use this fame and fall in temptation to start capitalizaing solely on your personal brand, giving lectures, interviews, writing books on how to be hired by the hottest startups and other distractions. Keep focusing on working hard to build things. You are doing a great job on this so far. Congrats!