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Geminidog
·há 5 anos·discuss
And I know people who have been effected by big pharma. Anecdotal evidence doesn't fly in the face of a journalistic documentary. There's tons of docs on the crisis and the blame is squarely on big pharma.

Do some searching there's tons of articles/video interviews on addicts who got addicted because of pain killers. Here's one: https://www.healthline.com/health/doctor-addicted-opioids
Geminidog
·há 5 anos·discuss
It's very possible for everyone to be guilty. We don't live in a world where if something isn't "useful" it isn't true.

Your statement ends up reading sort of like "Is every Nazi guilty of the holocaust?" Technically maybe not, doesn't change the fact that of the matter that overall all Nazis are guilty.

You can't run away from this with some garbage statement of "Not a very useful perspective." This incident literally killed an amount of people that is equivalent to a genocide.

Imagine if you were a Nazi and you said that. If you were just a mere guard at one of these concentration camps could you say what you just said to me to a victim who lived through the atrocity? Think about what you should say to the parents of a man/woman who died from an opioid overdose. Literally, I think you're unaware of the magnitude of the crime that was committed here.

Watch these videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGcKURD_osM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXL3F5HvCr8
Geminidog
·há 5 anos·discuss
>It's neither a conspiracy, nor a scheme, nor a world of wealthy indulgence

But it is a crime the company is responsible for that caused many people to die and become addicted to opioids.

You think Kim Jong Un walks among the people he starves to death on a daily basis in North Korea? No. He's too high up. He's in his palace in the capital and he doesn't even see the real state of his country. He just hears about it in reports and goes to do his day to day job like any other person in a company disconnected from the consequences of their actions.

Does this mean Kim Jong Un is not guilty? No. Not. at. all.

Does this mean McKinsey's is not guilty?

Does this mean you're not guilty?
Geminidog
·há 6 anos·discuss
>To even suggest starvation doesn't exist is...I don't even have the words.

Stop over dramatizing the situation. Obviously I'm not saying it doesn't exist. I'm obviously not implying it.

What I am implying is that starvation is dramatically lower in percentage then it was in the past.

>Did you hear about the Nigerian farmers who were executed last week by Boko Haram? Not very different than a barbarian raiding a small village.

Again tragic but in the big scheme of things historically this would be something happening across the street from you. Nowadays it's happening in few places but you think it's a huge deal because the news manages to cover it.
Geminidog
·há 6 anos·discuss
>for stating simple statistics

No you're deliberately calling out numbers that blows things out of proportion. 9/11 was deliberately used because it was a tragedy. Why didn't you compare COVID to car accidents which is the bigger more comparable number? Because you want to raise emotions. Don't pretend.

You're not a doomsday prophet but you are definitely manipulating the situation towards your own skewed perspective, you were dialing it up to 11, you're just back pedaling now.

If you indeed had something unbiased to say you would not have brought 9/11 out of nowhere to say that covid is like a bunch of 9/11s happening back to back because so is the flu so is car accidents. You have an agenda and you are promoting it with biased numbers.

> Well, I find it strange that people are easily triggered by reality, so much so that they want to drown it out, ignore it and think that those who are not content with the status quo should be "hit with a belt in the ass and told to stand in the corner", like the comment I replied to said.

Triggered by reality? Nobody is triggered here. We're saying calm down. You're the one that's bringing up 9/11 trying to trigger everyone.

Nobody is saying be content with the status quo, what we're saying is that don't push the panic button, we are not in a 9/11 panic situation... humanity is more at peace then ever before and the numbers show it when you look at the overall timeline of human existence.

I am saying that much of it should be drowned out though. All the news you've been inundated with 2 months ago is already outdated. You're loaded with an over dramatization of problems that humanity basically deals with on a normal basis and becomes useless and outdated within a week let alone a month.
Geminidog
·há 6 anos·discuss
I'm similar to you but there are people who are very different. Psychopaths exist on the end of this spectrum but there are many people in between as it is a spectrum and can be measured physically and determined genetically. People not like us are much more common than you think.

I'd peg the number at 30-40% of people who are largely indifferent to murder and abide by the rules simply because of consequences society or habit. This is of course is just a anecdotal and hypothetical number.

The problem is when people judge humanity they instinctively reach for a mirror and believe that other people are a reflection. This is partly true but it causes people to miss many parts of the personality spectrum that are massively different.

Case in point:

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-neuroscien...

The above is an example of a psychopath who probably would have lived his life as a normal person were it not for his occupation and a serendipitous brain scan.

You will note that he has confirmed psychopathy through genetic evaluation and physical evaluation of the structure of his brain.

Also just want to say that I lied. I'm not like you. I'm a bit lower on the spectrum. I won't murder someone but if a stranger dies in front of me, I won't care. I'll definitely try to help him, but I won't be having problems sleeping at night.
Geminidog
·há 6 anos·discuss
>More people live in poverty now than ever before. The overall percentage may have decreased, but the sheer number is greater.

The sheer number doesn't matter when compared to the percentage. The percentage is the real number that measures our progress and the actual number is an illusion.

100 people die of car accidents per day does that mean we ban cars? No. The sheer number is an illusion the percentage is the real deal.

>The scale is greater now than it was back then. Now, a city of millions can be obliterated in an instant. Now, we can see the effects of global warming and how it can decimate the world's food supply.

Nobody is saying these aren't threats or problems. But compared with the past these problems are looming problems that we have to deal with as a society.

A peasant in the dark ages had to deal with starvation, black death or invaders. These were actual threats in the sense that an average conversation will be like: "Last week Martha got her head chopped off by a barbarian and Bob died of starvation. "
Geminidog
·há 6 anos·discuss
So then why throw numbers around and compare things to 9/11. There's no point. The pandemic is something we have to deal with but it doesn't change the fact that we are more at peace than ever before.

Why do you have to turn everything up to 11 and call red alert, there's no need.
Geminidog
·há 6 anos·discuss
September 11, 2001 was recent news, I'm old.

The initial poster (me) is talking about timescales much bigger than 9/11. There was a time where if your neighbor dropped dead from the black death it was normal. Right now most people don't know anyone who was even in the building when 9/11 happened.

Keep in mind the amount of car accidents in the US constitutes a mass slaughter on a scale far larger than anything you can comprehend yet you are ignoring it. There are plenty of things far worse than COVID deaths and 9/11 going on in the world right now... YET we are still more at peace and safer than we ever have been before.

Does that make you evil and heartless for completely ignoring how car manufactures and drivers are slaughtering people? No. It doesn't. But it does highlight the fact that you are using and throwing around numbers to raise emotions the same way the media does.

Just to keep things in perspective.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_fatality_rate_in...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_Sta...

Both are about 100 deaths per day JUST in the US.
Geminidog
·há 6 anos·discuss
You have to frame the number in percentage of population. More people died because there are more people period.

Also you need to make your timeline bigger. Extend the timeline to Past the dark ages.
Geminidog
·há 6 anos·discuss
No not really. All countries have utilities to wage conventional war without going nuclear yet even with these utilities in place we are not waging war to the scale (in terms of %) as we did historically. The reason why there are less wars in the modern era is because there's no more tangible benefit in going to war.

In the old days going to war meant getting more plunder in your coffers. Things like gold and resources. Today wealth is stored in information, knowledge, know-how and expertise. Going to war doesn't necessarily grant you access to this kind of wealth. I can't transfer the expertise of how to fab a processor by invading silicon valley with soldiers.

War even runs the risk of destroying know-how and infrastructure related to technology. The way towards wealth in the modern era is through learning, communication and espionage.

You would think this kind of thing is obvious, that everyone should know that the spoils of war in the past when applied to the modern era are basically useless. But alas the complexities and blast of useless information delivered to us by the media makes it hard to pinpoint the fundamental reasoning.
Geminidog
·há 6 anos·discuss
The world has always been too complex too understand.

Even before human society became complex, the natural world around us was already immensely complex.

Additionally human society was already too complex too understand from before we were born. This title implies he was waiting for the complexity to happen. "Finally."

Things may appear more complex because of the internet and social media. Really what's happening is there's a lot more information that's accessible to us and a lot of it is useless.

One thing people don't realize is they think society is falling into chaos with the pandemic trump and all the garbage they report on the media.

What they don't realize that there has never been a time in history where the world is more at peace then there is now. We are extraordinarily lucky to live in these times, source:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2014/12/the-world-is-not...

But humans like drama so to get more views people have to dramatize everything. Really nothing is happening. Trump or Biden being president is more likely to change what you see on the news over an actual change to your way of life.