Noseshine · HackerTrans

há 10 anosdiscuss

Your entire tone is completely out of place here, on many levels.

  > That's an incredible strawman

Merely yelling "strawman" whenever you don't like an argument doesn't mean it is one. Since I'm talking about the issue itself it can't be a "strawman".

  > Nothing you argue is a reason why we can't delete posts

I didn't argue "can't". You are inventing things. Sure it's possible. Did you read the previous comments of the conversation before commenting? I get the feeling you didn't.

  > depends where your values are: privacy or

I wrote about just that - I wonder which comment you read when you wrote that comment? You reply feels like you didn't bother reading what people incl. myself wrote, it's so disconnected. Not good.

Again: It is NOT a private post, it was posted on a PUBLIC forum, and pretty much guaranteed not by mistake! I wrote about that.

Noseshine

há 10 anosdiscuss

Because a comment made on a public worldwide-readable forum is not private, and you know that before you sign up with an account, so it's not like you accidentally made a public comment that was meant to be private. Protecting private communication is about just that - stuff that actually is private (to begin with).

Public opinion and the law may of course change, the issue that something uttered in public, be it by voice or in writing, can be retroactively taken back and declared as "private" has only been an issue with the advent of public electronic forums.

I don't think you will find a lot of people who think enabling people to change their mind after they made a public statement is a high priority, especially since it has a negative impact on everybody else: How does a forum look like when key posts are suddenly missing? And I say "key post" because if it didn't get a lot of attention to begin with it's unlikely that the poster will regret having posted it.

Noseshine

há 10 anosdiscuss

A thread on reddit about just that very topic gained front-page visibility and a lot of "I'm actually doing this right now" comments.

EDIT - I actually found it, "Reddit is probably the world's largest group of people that communicate while shitting.": https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/comments/5dqufr/redd...

Noseshine

há 10 anosdiscuss

Yes, I agree. I just think I better point out - for other readers - that my point was made for when people are unable to hear a difference even in blind tests. It was about a longer-term effect that is not part of the direct listening experience. Even if my memory was correct this effect would not change people's difficulty (or at some point, inability) in telling different sound sources apart.

Noseshine

há 10 anosdiscuss

    > That falls into some speculation area, unless actually substantiated with serious studies.

I made that quite clear, and I asked for the latter in the prominently placed last sentence. It's the main point of my post, as I think I made clear. I really don't know what more I could/should have done apart from dropping the question entirely, which I don't think is fair - or useful?

Noseshine

há 10 anosdiscuss

I can't for the live of me think of a phrase that gives me Google search results even remotely related to the topic, but I am pretty sure I once found a study that said that consciously inaudible differences in audio due to compression still made a difference - subjects who got the compressed sounds tired more quickly (of hearing them). Having taken a bit of neuroscience I can easily accept that - but I did not take enough (ns) to say for sure that it is so. I can easily accept that merely asking people about anything is not actually objective, it needs more credulity to believe my claim that even people in a blind test who can't tell the difference between two songs (lossless vs. compressed), which is more objective than just asking about qualitative measures, is not a reliable way to determine the question of "lossless vs. compressed".

So could anyone confirm or deny such a study and the mechanism exists from a basis of actual knowledge?

Noseshine

há 10 anosdiscuss

"Off topic" to what? The title chosen here matches the contents it links to.