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Show HN: Docker in the browser using x86-to-WASM recompilation

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119 points·by g3·há 4 anos·30 comments

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g3
·há 4 anos·discuss
Yes, I should write about v86's internals some day. Meanwhile, the code is right here: https://github.com/copy/v86/tree/master/src/rust

It's much faster with recompilation than without, but I agree that it's slower than expected (compared to, for example, qemu-tcg).

There is still room for improvements (e.g. eflags updates, 16-bit instructions, call/ret optimisations, main loop), but part of the problem is limitations of web assembly (no mmap, only structured control flow) and browser engines (memory blow up on large generated wasm modules, related to control flow).

The webvm folks explain the control flow problem quite well, and seem to be doing a better job than v86: https://medium.com/leaningtech/extreme-webassembly-1-pushing...
g3
·há 4 anos·discuss
If you're bored (or your code is still compiling), you can also try:

SerenityOS: http://copy.sh/v86/?profile=serenity (one of their developers contributed PAE support to v86, which is extra cool. I believe it contains their own browser.)

ReactOS: http://copy.sh/v86/?profile=reactos

Haiku: https://copy.sh/v86/?profile=haiku

9front: http://copy.sh/v86/?profile=9front

Android: http://copy.sh/v86/?profile=android

KolibriOS: http://copy.sh/v86/?profile=kolibrios

HelenOS: http://copy.sh/v86/?profile=helenos

Oberon: http://copy.sh/v86/?profile=oberon

QNX: http://copy.sh/v86/?profile=qnx

Windows 95 with IE 3: http://copy.sh/v86/?profile=windows95-boot

Windows 98 with IE 5: http://copy.sh/v86/?profile=windows98 (run networking.bat)

Windows 2000 with IE 6: http://copy.sh/v86/?profile=windows2000 (run networking.bat)

v86 running in v86 (the inner one is running in node): https://copy.sh/v86/?profile=archlinux&c=./v86-in-v86.js

As well as most BSDs and Linuxes, as long as they still have i686 support.
g3
·há 4 anos·discuss
It makes for a cool demo (and it's a reference to the recent "wasm in docker" announcement).
g3
·há 4 anos·discuss
Or, if you want to go one level deeper, v86 has a complete Linux environment with both python and sqlite running locally: https://copy.sh/v86/?profile=archlinux&c=python%20-ic%20%27i...
g3
·há 4 anos·discuss
v86 also recompiles machine code to web assembly. The main difference is that v86 is a hobby project (of which I'm the original author, by the way), with much fewer contributors and no (known) commercial users, and is much less sophisticated than this project. On the other hand, v86 is open source, so you could make it sophisticated if you wanted to :-)

I'm not sure what exactly cheerps is used for; v86 is mostly used to demo operating systems (mostly hobby and vintage). We recently got SerenityOS to run: http://copy.sh/v86/?profile=serenity
g3
·há 5 anos·discuss
It's the disk access. In order to open My Computer, Windows reads 6399 disk sectors, which are read using ~150 http requests.
g3
·há 5 anos·discuss
Or in an in-browser emulator: https://copy.sh/v86/?profile=custom&fda.url=images/freedos-b...