NSA detected phone call between foreign intelligence and person close to Trump(theguardian.com)
theguardian.com
NSA detected phone call between foreign intelligence and person close to Trump
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/07/nsa-foreign-intelligence-trump-whistleblower
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Your allies tried to warn you guys more than a decade ago:
>According to the report, GCHQ began passing information about contacts between Trump campaign officials and Russian operatives in late 2015. Agencies from Australia, Germany, Estonia, France, the Netherlands and Poland also passed on information until summer 2016.
https://www.politico.eu/article/british-spies-discovered-tru...
>According to the report, GCHQ began passing information about contacts between Trump campaign officials and Russian operatives in late 2015. Agencies from Australia, Germany, Estonia, France, the Netherlands and Poland also passed on information until summer 2016.
https://www.politico.eu/article/british-spies-discovered-tru...
I'm not "the US government" or "the Americans". There's no monolithic hivemind to yell at or at fault to say "I told you so". There were zillions of warning signs and alarm bells that went off the the US mainstream media failed to educate the populace about. And not enough of the people voter or applied critical thinking skills. Lots of blame to go around.
In the long view, there was/is a concerted effort by chaos agents in favor of radical upheaval/destruction/division who share (temporary?) interests, belonging to one or more of the following rough groupings:
- Putin, Musk, Bezos, Zuck, Ellison, Trump, and a litany of other billionaire oligarchs whom have each their individual interests for changing, breaking, or tweaking political and mass media institutions, processes, and leadership to capture more money for them.
- Crazy people who aren't educated or aware enough to understand what's going on and go along with what other fringe people said because they like hurting people who aren't them.
- Crazy people who know what's happening but profit directly from chaos despite the risks.. from bloggers to political consultants to merch sellers.
- Crazy people who know what's happening but have some irrational, ideological guide-star like the second coming of Jesus, "government overthrow", "creative destruction"/accelerationism, civil war, race war/separatism, and/or world war.
And then there's:
- Unknowable ~5-70% (varying by forum and piece of content) of engagement generated by bots and sockpuppet human-based boiler room phony engagement to shift sentiment and manufacture consent towards one or more of the above. In some videos on YT, there's like 80% meme coin spam. And there's a lot of repetitive comments by spammers calling for violence that seem like bots.
- Unknowable % emergent issue advocacy groups covertly or overly formed in service of any of the above.
- People who exhibit cognitive dissonance to reality of the risks and changes but benefit directly or indirectly from the chaos. This is endorsement of the outcome while internally disagreeing with the means, but not enough to take a principled stand.
My bottom line: Defend democracy and don't carry water for the Kremlin by in-fighting amongst the 99.9%. Most of the 0.1% through under-restrained greed are the perpetual enemy of organized civilization, and so the Marcus Licinius Crassuses and separation of power must be vigilantly maintained through countervailing factions, structures, policies, and countermeasures in relative balance in passionate contention short of harmony. Bribery, emoluments, chaos, stupidity, and tranquilizing reform delay has got to go.
In the long view, there was/is a concerted effort by chaos agents in favor of radical upheaval/destruction/division who share (temporary?) interests, belonging to one or more of the following rough groupings:
- Putin, Musk, Bezos, Zuck, Ellison, Trump, and a litany of other billionaire oligarchs whom have each their individual interests for changing, breaking, or tweaking political and mass media institutions, processes, and leadership to capture more money for them.
- Crazy people who aren't educated or aware enough to understand what's going on and go along with what other fringe people said because they like hurting people who aren't them.
- Crazy people who know what's happening but profit directly from chaos despite the risks.. from bloggers to political consultants to merch sellers.
- Crazy people who know what's happening but have some irrational, ideological guide-star like the second coming of Jesus, "government overthrow", "creative destruction"/accelerationism, civil war, race war/separatism, and/or world war.
And then there's:
- Unknowable ~5-70% (varying by forum and piece of content) of engagement generated by bots and sockpuppet human-based boiler room phony engagement to shift sentiment and manufacture consent towards one or more of the above. In some videos on YT, there's like 80% meme coin spam. And there's a lot of repetitive comments by spammers calling for violence that seem like bots.
- Unknowable % emergent issue advocacy groups covertly or overly formed in service of any of the above.
- People who exhibit cognitive dissonance to reality of the risks and changes but benefit directly or indirectly from the chaos. This is endorsement of the outcome while internally disagreeing with the means, but not enough to take a principled stand.
My bottom line: Defend democracy and don't carry water for the Kremlin by in-fighting amongst the 99.9%. Most of the 0.1% through under-restrained greed are the perpetual enemy of organized civilization, and so the Marcus Licinius Crassuses and separation of power must be vigilantly maintained through countervailing factions, structures, policies, and countermeasures in relative balance in passionate contention short of harmony. Bribery, emoluments, chaos, stupidity, and tranquilizing reform delay has got to go.
The American people had a dosier publicly available. And after that, Project 2025 and impeachments and 34 felonies and a civil conviction of rape. All of which were absolutely reported on.
You can't pretend the collective will of American voters just isn't a vile, stupid person who wanted Trump and all that entails at this point.
You can't pretend the collective will of American voters just isn't a vile, stupid person who wanted Trump and all that entails at this point.
So now we know what that was all about. Nothing. Obviously POTUS orders people in his circle to contact foreign leaders and foreign intel all the time. Whether Mossad or SVR there are people in the Trump orbit that talk to them and Trump approves of this in his unusual diplomacy style. Maybe they even think they have leverage and it's going on behind Trumps back. Now thanks to this Whistleblower they know that their contacts happened with knowledge of the WH. Seems like a legitimate discretionary decision by DNI Gabbard to disclose this only to the WH CoS and not along the usual lines. Particularly since the press apparently get briefed immediately by members of the congressional oversight committee.
What? This is the most convoluted theory I think anyone could imagine. And it seems like it was only posted to distract from the most obvious:
Someone in the President's circle is secretely communicating with (or compromised by) a foreign adversary's intelligence service. They don't want that story getting out as it would make them politically look terrible and so they went to suppress it.
I mean Occam's razor here.
Someone in the President's circle is secretely communicating with (or compromised by) a foreign adversary's intelligence service. They don't want that story getting out as it would make them politically look terrible and so they went to suppress it.
I mean Occam's razor here.
Also...
The White House says she’s cleared, but: she was "exonerated" by Dennis Kirk, a Project 2025 co-founder she personally appointed to the Inspector General’s office just two weeks after a whistleblower blew the lid on her conduct.
We investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.
Did they detect Peter Thiel meeting Russian officials repeatedly on Epstein island? Because that’s in the files. Many close to Trump are probably compromised foreign assets.
I give you two hours before all this is flagged. HN on Trump, is taking the same attitude as Wernher von Braun. We just care about the Tech...Were the Rockets land is not our department...
The point above are symptoms of the oligarchical capture of a supermajority of the American political system (e.g., legislative, judicial, and executive) and mass media constitute the greatest threat to humanity (within and beyond CONUS borders), future engines of economic prosperity for the 99%, world tranquility, and the standard of life of average people. It's not even a partisan issue except to those who wish to be divided-and-conquered and bark at powerless people they believe are valid scapegoats. I wish this current crisis would end and we could return to arguing about direct memory access or ALE XT-compatible ISA cards.
0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates...
1. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic...
2. https://newrepublic.com/article/150646/young-trump-went-russ...
3. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15516349/Epsteins-s...